WJW Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 For those that have followed the CDM Fantasy Sports case, the Supreme Court put the final nail in the case by announcing they will not hear the appeal from MLBAM / MLBPA. Link to story at Bloomberg.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 What this means is that the NFL cannot force a monopoly over control of statistics and such so that fantasy sites and in particular fantasy league management sites can continue to serve everyone. This is a major victory for all fantasy football fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kansas State 2000 Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 WORD! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Irish Doggy Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 This is a major victory for all fantasy football fans. That, and common sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolf Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 What this means is that the NFL cannot force a monopoly over control of statistics and such so that fantasy sites and in particular fantasy league management sites can continue to serve everyone. This is a major victory for all fantasy football fans. ...and it took the Supreme Court to determine this? Sheesh... But glad they did! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DMD Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 ...and it took the Supreme Court to determine this? Sheesh... But glad they did! With the money behind the NFL owners and NFLPA and Advanced Media, they are probably trying to find some intergalactic tribunal to appeal it to now. Considering the David and Goliath nature of this, it truly is a huge win for the "little guys". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolf Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 With the money behind the NFL owners and NFLPA and Advanced Media, they are probably trying to find some intergalactic tribunal to appeal it to now. Considering the David and Goliath nature of this, it truly is a huge win for the "little guys". +1 Look at it this way...you won more than the USFL did...! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 With the money behind the NFL owners and NFLPA and Advanced Media, they are probably trying to find some intergalactic tribunal to appeal it to now. Considering the David and Goliath nature of this, it truly is a huge win for the "little guys". While I understand why the NFL feels the need to keep a stranglehold on all things NFL, I find it hard to imagine that someone in their offices - and these aren't stupid people - didn't see the value of goodwill as well as the incredible boost in interest in their league that FF gives, which in turn leads to substantial additonal $$$. Not only that, but to think that the statistics are protected information? How does someone even think of that angle? It's not like they are intellectual work product - they are documentation of events. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 Ah but it's all money and lawyers at the top. Pure and simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Cid Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 This is great news! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godtomsatan Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 Not only that, but to think that the statistics are protected information? How does someone even think of that angle? It's not like they are intellectual work product - they are documentation of events. Yes, but it is THEIR event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolf Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 Yes, but it is THEIR event. The event may be, yes...and the pictures, descriptions and accounts do belong to the NFL. However, broadcast rights are sold, newspapers, TV, internet and radio publish statistics...I would think that information then becomes public. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 doesn't nfl.com offer ff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 doesn't nfl.com offer ff? yes, and would likely had been in any agreement for rights if the case went the other way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godtomsatan Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 The event may be, yes...and the pictures, descriptions and accounts do belong to the NFL. However, broadcast rights are sold, newspapers, TV, internet and radio publish statistics...I would think that information then becomes public. I think the gigantic rub with all of that is that they are the ones compiling the statistics we see and use (or at least the people they hire to do so @ Elias and STATS, if it's not the league itself or the individual clubs). I don't agree with what the leagues want to do, but I follow their logic. And frankly, as pro-business as our federal judiciary tends to be, I'm a little surprised the Supreme Court didn't take this thing on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesVikes Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 Ah but it's all money and lawyers at the top. Pure and simple. I can honestly say that If I ever had to pay even a nickel for permission to use NFL players' stats, that I wouldn't play fantasy sports anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesVikes Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 doesn't nfl.com offer ff? Yes and this makes me wonder why I heard yesterday that the NFL was privately cheering MLB for their actions on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Country Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 Yes and this makes me wonder why I heard yesterday that the NFL was privately cheering MLB for their actions on this. Well, if MLB had won out and the organizations owned the rights to the stats, who do you think would be the major beneficiary. NFL.com could in theory be the only game in town when it came to automated FF scoring, meaning they could charge whatever they wanted and have a monopoly on it. Your options would be to pay them to run the league or do it old school pen and paper style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Cheezhead Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 I think, even if the case had gone the opposite way, we wouldn't have seen a huge change in the way we play FF. The only difference would be that everything would cost more. I figure the NFL would let FF run rampant as it is right now -- but they could charge every single league-manager service for the privilege of using NFL stats. Either way: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiegie Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 I hate activist judges pushing their liberal legislation from the bench. :oldjohnelwaygrin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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