myhousekey Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Gotta say I agree with him. From espn NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said its "ridiculous" to reward untested rookies with lucrative contracts and wants the issue addressed in contract talks. "There's something wrong about the system," Goodell said Friday. "The money should go to people who perform." Goodell referred to Michigan tackle Jake Long's five-year, $57.75 million contract -- with $30 million guaranteed. Long was the first overall draft pick by the Miami Dolphins in April. "He doesn't have to play a down in the NFL and he already has his money," Goodell said during a question-and-answer period at the end of a weeklong sports symposium at the Chautauqua Institution. "Now, with the economics where they are, the consequences if you don't evaluate that player, you can lose a significant amount of money. "And that money is not going to players that are performing. It's going to a player that never makes it in the NFL. And I think that's ridiculous." Goodell said he favors lowering salaries offered to rookies, but allowing a provision for those players to renegotiate their deals after proving themselves on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 It's nice to see such a fine football mind finally come into agreement with something we morans at the Huddle realized a long time ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 It's nice to see such a fine football mind finally come into agreement with something we morans at the Huddle realized a long time ago. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 As the biggest Goodell hater, I must say he is finally doing something I like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
untateve Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 You know, the rookies wouldn't be paid that much if the owners didn't pay them that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicCEO Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 You know, the rookies wouldn't be paid that much if the owners didn't pay them that much. I've kind of thought the same thing. You'd have a few years with 75% holdouts and some teams with a strange disadvantage because of it. It would really cause some major turmoil in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 It's nice to see such a fine football mind finally come into agreement with something we morans at the Huddle realized a long time ago. We could've been saying this a LONG time ago if the boneheads didn't elect Tagliaboob way back when. God he sucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturphy Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 You'd think all NFL players would agree completely and college players don't have a voice, so it seems like a slam dunk, yeah? All the agents drive this one. All the money the agents are making on these deals and their relationship to Gene and the NFLPA is what's keeping the dunk from happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zooty Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 All the agents drive this one. All the money the agents are making on these deals and their relationship to Gene and the NFLPA is what's keeping the dunk from happening. Heard a sound-bite on Sirius today from Gene how he will NEVER allow a rookie cap. Too bad some of the vets disagree with him (it means less money for them). He'll be gone in a year or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zooty Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 Aren't some of the team reps trying to push a vote to kick Upshaw out? I think I heard DFoxworth of the Broncos say that? Matt Stover was leading the coup. Kickers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 Aren't some of the team reps trying to push a vote to kick Upshaw out? I think I heard DFoxworth of the Broncos say that? If that happens hell must have frozen over. He's been around forever despite being a total joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 All the agents drive this one. All the money the agents are making on these deals and their relationship to Gene and the NFLPA is what's keeping the dunk from happening. Agents have vitually no standing in this fight. Agents are required to be certified through the NFLPA before they can ply their trade and represent players, and that status can be revoked at any time by the NFLPA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 We could've been saying this a LONG time ago if the boneheads didn't elect Tagliaboob way back when. God he sucked. Yeah. What did he do other than oversee the era of the NFL where it overtook all major American sports as THE thing to watch. What an idiot. Didn't bring any money into the game either. And that dumb bastage brought free agency into the mix as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 I think the problem is the player's union. I don't think they will ever agree to a rookie salary cap, regardless of what they say publicly. Why? Because it is likely that with a rookie salary cap the total amount of money played to all players will be less. Rookies will get less and veterans will get more ... but veterans won't get ALL of the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 But why not? They already have a total salary cap in place with increments each year based on revenues, correct? I don't think they'll accept much of a change from the total already in place, would they? In the NFL the salary cap is all smoke and mirrors with contracts that are not guaranteed ... about the only constant is the LARGE signing bonuses paid to rookies and high profile free agents. Take away the rookie signing bonuses and the pay scale is going to drop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 In the NFL the salary cap is all smoke and mirrors with contracts that are not guaranteed ... about the only constant is the LARGE signing bonuses paid to rookies and high profile free agents. Take away the rookie signing bonuses and the pay scale is going to drop. I disagree with this completely. The cap jumped significantly with the signing of the CBA extension and prices for vet signings went up accordingly. Teams had additional revenue and cap space to use, and they showed that when given the opportunity that they will use it. The money will go right to the appropriate places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 Yeah. What did he do other than oversee the era of the NFL where it overtook all major American sports as THE thing to watch. What an idiot.I give up: what does "THE thing to watch" mean? If you mean popularity-wise, that was Rozelle who did that, not the Boobster. Didn't bring any money into the game either.I see, so you equate more money into the game as a good thing. That speaks for itself. And that dumb bastage brought free agency into the mix as well.er free agency existed long before he came along. He also didn't invent the internet either, FYI. (the rest of us know it was Gore, duh) Anyway, to me an overall cap is lot more important than a rookie cap. I hear what Goodell is saying, but if a team wants to spend a high % of its cap on a rookie, they should have that option. Course then if they get a Leaf-like experience w/the rook, they are (literally and figuratively) paying for it for awhile.......but it should be their choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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