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Big Ernie McCracken
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Come on man. Fewer runs but more receptions. Quit with the misleading titles.

 

I don't think that's misleading at all. A carry is a handoff, quite simple. A reception is a whole other issue. He had only 19 last year. Not every RB has great hands. I don't remember him being a huge receiving threat in Oklahoma either. There have been a lot of dynamic running backs who weren't neccesarily good receivers ou of the backfield :wacko: That's a quote from the OC, not my interpretation. I think a lot of people are deciding between LT and Peterson and this is the kind of thing that might sway the decision in LT's favor. So pizz off Randy :D

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So if you're not trying to be misleading, and you're really concerned about people making a decision between LT and AP, why not also include this quote from the article?

 

Coming off a 1,341-yard rookie season, Peterson is expected to be on the field even more this fall, as his pass blocking and receiving continue to improve. That could mean a reduced role for Taylor, but the coaches maintain there still will be plenty of carries to go around.

 

That, in context with the quote about fewer handoffs and more receptions, could actually *raise* Peterson's relative value in PPR leagues.

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So if you're not trying to be misleading, and you're really concerned about people making a decision between LT and AP, why not also include this quote from the article?

 

 

 

That, in context with the quote about fewer handoffs and more receptions, could actually *raise* Peterson's relative value in PPR leagues.

 

 

If that quote wasn't in the article from the link provided, :D then where did you get it :D Should I post an entire article in my title :D

And my point, Mr.Pig, is this. In Peterson's 4 year pro and college career he has about 50 receptions. He had only 3 games last year with 3 or more receptions. AP is an incredible, dynamic, explosive, beast of a playmaker. But I'm just not sure how good of a receiver he is. The numbers dictate that he hasn't been used as a receiver out of the backfield which tells me there is at least a chance that he hasn't shown a propensity for catching the football out of the backfield. Hopefully that makes sense Mr. Pig. :wacko:

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:D

 

Misleading titles are against the posting rules :wacko:

 

Edited title.

 

BJ, I don't think that is a misleading title. With all due respect, that is what his OC said in the article I posted a link to. I think to say AP will have more receptions is misleading. He may be targeted more but will not neccesarily make the reception. To me this sheds doubt on whether AP should be considered an equal or better option to LT. If he's losing carries, which is what the OC stated as a possibility, and his pass catching ability (for whatever reason) isn't up to snuff, he could potentially lose some touches. Right now the jury is out on his pass catching ability. BJ he has less than 50 career receptions in about 45 games (abot 1.1 per game) Sorry if you found the title misleading. I thought the article was pertinent and I think that a lot of people are toiling over a decision of LT vs. AP. I've been a paying member of this site for a long time and was here long before it was a paysite and know the rules of this forum very well. It seems that if a huddler is not around on the boards in February and March padding posts and swapping recipes the letter of the law is in larger print. :D Again I'm sorry :D you found the title misleading, no harm was meant :D

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I quoted from the article you linked to. Did you even read it?

 

Also, compare Tomlinson's college career (scroll to the bottom):

 

http://www.chargers-stats.com/2001new/tomlinson.html

 

In his 4 college years he had 12, 6, 12, and 10 receptions (40 total through 4 years). The difference is that Tomlinson went to a team that wasn't shy about passing to the halfback and he didn't get taken out on third downs. In fact, I remember people questioning if Tomlinson would be able to handle catching passes out of the backfield his rookie year.

 

Your article is about Taylor losing even more playing time to Peterson, as AP will be in on more third downs and catching more passes. Total handoffs will (or more likely, may) be less, but playing time and receptions will be up. AP put up his stats last year on ~250 touches (238 carries and 19 receptions). Running backs are a volume position. If he gets more touches, his value has a chance to go up from where it was last year.

 

The ENTIRE point of your article is that Taylor's value is diminished but Peterson's in increased, yet your title makes it sound like Peterson is getting less playing time-- hence, why people consider it misleading.

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I quoted from the article you linked to. Did you even read it?

 

Also, compare Tomlinson's college career (scroll to the bottom):

 

http://www.chargers-stats.com/2001new/tomlinson.html

 

In his 4 college years he had 12, 6, 12, and 10 receptions (40 total through 4 years). The difference is that Tomlinson went to a team that wasn't shy about passing to the halfback and he didn't get taken out on third downs. In fact, I remember people questioning if Tomlinson would be able to handle catching passes out of the backfield his rookie year.

 

Your article is about Taylor losing even more playing time to Peterson, as AP will be in on more third downs and catching more passes. Total handoffs will (or more likely, may) be less, but playing time and receptions will be up. AP put up his stats last year on ~250 touches (238 carries and 19 receptions). Running backs are a volume position. If he gets more touches, his value has a chance to go up from where it was last year.

 

The ENTIRE point of your article is that Taylor's value is diminished but Peterson's in increased, yet your title makes it sound like Peterson is getting less playing time-- hence, why people consider it misleading.

 

 

LT's first season he had 59 receptions. I'm sure it is somehow challenging you, by pointing out that AP is an unproven quantity as a receiver out of the backfield, sorry :wacko: When AP has 70 receptions this year, feel free to rub my nose in it :D

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LT's first season he had 59 receptions. I'm sure it is somehow challenging you, by pointing out that AP is an unproven quantity as a receiver out of the backfield, sorry :wacko: When AP has 70 receptions this year, feel free to rub my nose in it :D

 

Peterson is pretty talented. I'm sure he can handle dump off passes. :D

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I quoted from the article you linked to. Did you even read it?

 

Also, compare Tomlinson's college career (scroll to the bottom):

 

http://www.chargers-stats.com/2001new/tomlinson.html

 

In his 4 college years he had 12, 6, 12, and 10 receptions (40 total through 4 years). The difference is that Tomlinson went to a team that wasn't shy about passing to the halfback and he didn't get taken out on third downs. In fact, I remember people questioning if Tomlinson would be able to handle catching passes out of the backfield his rookie year.

 

Your article is about Taylor losing even more playing time to Peterson, as AP will be in on more third downs and catching more passes. Total handoffs will (or more likely, may) be less, but playing time and receptions will be up. AP put up his stats last year on ~250 touches (238 carries and 19 receptions). Running backs are a volume position. If he gets more touches, his value has a chance to go up from where it was last year.

 

The ENTIRE point of your article is that Taylor's value is diminished but Peterson's in increased, yet your title makes it sound like Peterson is getting less playing time-- hence, why people consider it misleading.

 

 

LT's rookie season Chargers backfield accumulated 95 receptions, 59 for LT roughly 60%

AP's rookie season Minny backfield accumulated 72 receptions, 19 for AP roughly 30%

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To me, one of the biggest - if not the biggest - issues in Peterson's performance lies in the McKinnie issue. The latest:

 

NFL calls McKinnie report 'speculation'

 

By JUDD ZULGAD and CHIP SCOGGINS, Star Tribune staff writers

Last update: August 14, 2008 - 11:17 PM

 

MANKATO - An NFL spokesman said Thursday that a report by Sirius NFL Radio that Vikings left tackle Bryant McKinnie is likely to be suspended for four games for violating the league's personal conduct policy is speculation and that no announcement has been made.

 

McKinnie had little reaction when asked about the report.

 

"I don't know about that," McKinnie said as he walked off the practice field.

 

McKinnie is subject to possible disciplinary action by the NFL as a repeat offender of the league's conduct policy. He met with NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell in early June.

 

McKinnie's latest off-the-field incident occurred in February when he got into a brawl outside a Miami nightclub. He faces four charges from that incident, including one felony. He has pleaded not guilty to all charges. His next court date is scheduled for Sept. 24 in Miami-Dade County Court.

 

A Vikings official said the team can't comment on the matter and that any statement would have to come from the NFL.

 

McKinnie was fined a game check ($41,176) by the NFL in September 2006 for his role in the Vikings' infamous boat party on Lake Minnetonka the previous fall. McKinnie pleaded guilty to misdemeanor disorderly conduct for that incident, agreeing to pay a $2,000 fine and perform 48 hours of community service.

 

McKinnie continues to get all the reps with the first-team offense in training camp.

 

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A quarter of the season without McKinnie would be problematic, IMO. Not to mention Madeau Williams being out the same games, and the pass defense is not looking as improved as originally hoped. Both things would point to more passing for the Purple, I would think, but AP would be an interesting option for T-Jax, if he can catch the ball at all. I always thought they should try that more, as electric as he is in the open field.

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