splotchman Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 Hey Huddlers, Just curious with those of your facing a #4-6 pick, are you still high on Sjax and taking him above guys like Portis and Lynch? Or are folks shying away from Sjax in your drafts. Just curious what Huddlers thoughts are getting closer to actual drafts now. Sign off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentastic Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 Hey Huddlers, Just curious with those of your facing a #4-6 pick, are you still high on Sjax and taking him above guys like Portis and Lynch? Or are folks shying away from Sjax in your drafts. Just curious what Huddlers thoughts are getting closer to actual drafts now. Sign off! I won't touch him until he shows up to camp. Since we are now in week 3 of preseason, I will probably stay clear of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zooty Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 I would have gladly taken him at 6 but he was gone at 5. Draft started today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentastic Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 I would have gladly taken him at 6 but he was gone at 5. Draft started today Even with him holding out? Way too risky for a top 10 pick IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 Isn't this the same SJ that told FF owners that he would make it up to them this year by being the #1 RB in the league? If he falls past 1.10, I'd be hard pressed to pass him by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentastic Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 Isn't this the same SJ that told FF owners that he would make it up to them this year by being the #1 RB in the league? If he falls past 1.10, I'd be hard pressed to pass him by. Right now, with him NOT in camp, that's the over/under I have on him - 10th pick. It would be hard for me to take him before 10 and hard for me to pass on him after 10. I just hope someone grabs him before I have to make that decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunning Runt Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 We do an auction so it'll be interesting to see a) when he come up and how much he goes for. That said, assuming I haven't spent too much before he comes up, I'll stay in the bidding for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 I still have him 4th and will continue to do so... I don't think he misses week 1... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 I was ecstatic to take him at 1.06 today. There's risk in any player. But the risk/reward there? Thanks, that's a risk I'll gladly take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Agent Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 I took him 5th 2 weeks ago in a PPR. He's the only player IMO that can rival LT in a PPR. If the draft were today...I'd really have to think about it. I still feel he'll play week 1. But how ready will he be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCMartin Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 I was ecstatic to take him at 1.06 today. Got him at 1.08 in a 10 team league on Saturday and was very excited to see him there. I was sure to take a couple value pick RB's rounds 6-10 in case he misses a week. Just heard Leonard is down with injury so hopefully that can speed things up? Barber went 5 (draft was in Dallas), Lynch went 7... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitbull739 Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 I would still take him top 5 and expect him there Week 1. My draft is not until 8/30 so I hope he has it resolved before then. My opinion may change at that point if he is still not there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKIDKOKID Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 Great question....I remember being very happy when I learned that I had gotten the 4th pick in WCOFF....knew that meant I would be landing either Westy or SJax...now I just can't see myself taking SJax there at #4 too risky in an 11 week season anyway....might have to go Addai instead. KO'd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorttynaz Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 DMD - you still have Jackson listed as the 2nd best RB on the Huddle's PPR "cheat sheet". You really have a feeling that he's gonna pan out??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nibiyabi Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 I took him 5th 2 weeks ago in a PPR. He's the only player IMO that can rival LT in a PPR. If the draft were today...I'd really have to think about it. I still feel he'll play week 1. But how ready will he be? What about Westbrook? I'd take him #2 hands-down in a PPR, with or without SJax's holdout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 What about Westbrook? I'd take him #2 hands-down in a PPR, with or without SJax's holdout. I agree with you completely. If Westbrook played 16 games a year he'd be the no.1 pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pkillebr Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 I was initially concerned about SJax during the holdout because of the lack of conditioning and I am very hesitant of someone missing preseason. At this point though, we're just hoping that he'll play week 1. When the holdout started, I doubt many people thought it would go this far seemingly without progress. I think SJax made a huge mistake and it is already costing him hundreds of thousands of dollars and just digs himself deeper every day. Do you really think it is inconceivable that he holds out into the regular season? With just one game missed, he loses over 7% of fantasy value assuming a 15 week FF season, 14 of which are played because of the Bye. Assuming he actually has the huge bounce-back season that people are hoping for, that still drops him a few slots. He misses two games, he easily misses the top ten. I can't personally see spending a top ten pick on him until I know he will start the season and right now, we just don't. And, even if the holdout does end and he starts the season, I look at him as a much higher injury risk. Either way, I feel more confident that Westbrook starts every week than SJax and that is really saying something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LayLow Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 Sjax will start slow even if he comes back. His value will take a hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmutts Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 My draft is Friday night and at 1.7 I will pass on him for someone like Portis or Lynch. High Risk/High Reward is not an option in the first round for me. I like to go with safer players early before I start to gamble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 He's definitely not a top 5 pick on my board. Most mocks I did over the weekend still have him going before 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 I just got him with the 5 and I am happy about it. If you can manage around him early on (If you need to) He has great value at 5 overall when he is a legit 2-3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 I absolutely drop him. First off, it's not like this guy has such a long track record of being a fantasy stud that you can just take it to the bank if and when he shows up. He's had one dominant year. If this was LT or something, you could do that. Secondly, who's to say that St. Louis is going to be able to move the ball with or without him? Didn't they already lose a member of the OL for the season? It came across my MFL ticker but I obviously didn't recognize the name. I have to assume the dude was a starter or they wouldn't have bothered. Considering that their line was horrible last year, that's not a good start. I think RB, more than any other position is about being in the right place at the right time. All these guys are freaks of nature. Hell, look at Shaun Alexander. Was he the best RB in the league for a couple years or simply a guy who's line opened huge holes for him. I'm not saying that you or I could have put up his kind of numbers but I am saying that most NFL caliber backs could have looked pretty damned good in that offense. So, here you have a guy with one great year playing on a team that is by no means a lock to have a productive offense who's currently holding out and not learning the new offense. Meanwhile, you've got 4-5 RBs who were already ranked just a bit behind him who have none of the BS attached. That makes Porits and Lynch easily ahead of him. Gore likely ahead of him as well. I'm still not sold on Barber, but if like others, I had Barber as an elite back, than sure, he goes ahead as well. Best case scenario: He signs, picks up the offense really quickly. O-line gels, he becomes the stud you hoped he would be. Realistic best case scenario: He reports and signs but he's behind the curve with the new offense, is not in game shape, and puts up good numbers after a slow start. Once again, I need to see that this O can be a juggernaught for me to believe you can just plug him in and go. Realistic worst case scenario: He signs, tries to blow everyone away showing why he deserved the big bucks, pulls a hammy and nurses it all year long. Absolute worst case scenario: He holds out until week 10. Damage is done. St, Louis has turned the page and is going with Antonio Pittman and you've just wasted a top 10 pick. I'm not sold enough on option 1 to spend a top pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 I think that St. Louis will be caving in to him pretty soon here, so I would expect to see him play in Week 1. But I haven't heard anything about him working out during this holdout... there's something to be said for being in football shape (that's why they hold Training Camps and play pre-season games). If Jackson misses much more time, his risk of injury increases, and it's possible that it will take him a couple of weeks to get in the groove with the plays being called and finding a rhythm with his teammates. He might be talented and experienced enough to overcome all of that. But it's still a pretty big factor to consider now. I used to consider him a lock at the #3 pick. Now, he is in the 4-6 range with the potential to keep sliding each week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 I just got him with the 5 and I am happy about it. If you can manage around him early on (If you need to) He has great value at 5 overall when he is a legit 2-3 I'm not convinced that getting a guy 2 picks after "you should" is really all that big of a value. I think a guy needs to drop a round (or at least a half a round) to be thought of as a value. For instance, if SJax falls all the way out of the 1st, that means you were able to pick a RB1 or elite WR and then grab him. Now the pressure is off that pick working out a bit. Now you've got, say Portis, or Lynch, or Gore, or Moss, and him. Hell, even if he drops to the end of the 1st. Once again, you're given the luxury of landing at least a top WR or something. Because 2.03 is a much better pick than 2.10. On the other hand, the difference between what the guy picking 3rd from the end and 5th from the end in the 2nd is not all that big. By that stage, it's as much about personal preference as anything. Do you have B Edwards ahead of or behind Andre Johnson? What about Colston? Hell, maybe you want a QB anyway and grab Romo. There's no significant drop-off between those to picks coming back that it made any difference who went 3 and who went 5. Especially when both Addai and Westbrook (the guys we're typically talking about in those spots) have just about as many reasons to support why they'd do as well as Jackson even if Jackson was in camp the whole time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 I'm not convinced that getting a guy 2 picks after "you should" is really all that big of a value. I think a guy needs to drop a round (or at least a half a round) to be thought of as a value. I disagree when you are talking about the top 5 . If Jackson didnt hold out I would never have gotten him at 5. I see your point but I feel he is good value if he comes back in time and I was able to grab him where I otherwise would not have had a shot at him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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