hooknladder Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 If the Raiders lose badly in KC, Kiffin could be fired by Monday or Tuesday Posted by Tim Kawakami on September 13th, 2008 at 8:18 am | Categorized as NFL, Raiders It happened to Mike Shanahan in 1989 after four games. It could happen to Lane Kiffin in 2008 after two games. Gone. See ya. I hear it could happen to Kiffin on Monday or Tuesday, if the Raiders do not put up a half-decent effort in Kansas City on Sunday. Wouldn’t surprise me if people around the Raiders are all but planning the firing press conference–whether it comes next week, the week after or in two weeks. Because it’s coming. The Rob Ryan Blow Up on Thursday–dictated, I’m sure, by Davis himself and directed at Kiffin and Kiffin’s supporters–told us all that things are at a boiling point in the Raiders offices right now and the only way to ease it up is to fire Kiffin. Kiffin is the focus of the Al Fury. Kiffin will be blamed for wasting all the big-money and big-ego talents Davis just acquired. Kiffin is being blamed. The locker room knows Kiffin is a short-timer, as the Raiders players knew Art Shell was a short-timer and Norv Turner and Bill Callahan… So the team will be directionless and lost until that’s decided–OK, it’ll always be directionless and lost until Al regains his senses or hires somebody credible to run things, but oh well, that’s not happening… Kiffin will be fired. We all know that. Might as well be Monday or Tuesday, right? This is how Al does it with coaches he has grown to despise–and yet still has kept employed (for a little while): He gives them one year, sort of on their own (but always with Al’s heavy hand ready to tap them on the shoulder). Shanahan produced a 7-9 record in 1988. Kiffin put up a 4-12 run last year. Then Davis sours on them. He stews over them in the off-season. He blames them for all large and tiny failures. He pines for someone else. Anybody else. (This isn’t to say that Kiffin is blameless. He has all but declared himself an Indepedent Operator within Al’s domain, which is a lethal shot at Al’s clout and pride. But Kiffin wasn’t qualified to be an NFL head coach, anyway. The only reason he got the job in 2007 is because all 250 more-qualified guys ahead of him wouldn’t dare take it.) With the Shanahans and Kiffins, Davis cannot bring himself to fire them in the off-season, though he wants to. He has his closest aides telling him how the coach is moving the franchise away from the Raider Way. He gives them one more season to earn their keep. He wants to break them before firing them. He badly wants to break them. Eventually, though, he has to get rid of them, even if they haven’t broken yet. Yes, he fears getting rid of bright young coaches too quickly, because he doesn’t want them to be free to scurry off to a rival team with all of his secrets and with so much of his money. Yes, he’s not sure how many times he can drag himself through another coaching change. But he has to blame somebody. He has to despise somebody. It’s always the young coach. This is how does it: He waits, he hesitates, he despises. The knife is shown. It is plunged into the nether regions, while the team bleeds and Al calculates and hesitates. He makes his coach suffer. The team bleeds, and bleeds, and bleeds, and bleeds. Davis watches, waits, plots, waits, lets the coach twist and gag and maybe offer a few insults of his own… Then Al finally fires the coach. He might later decide to withhold the guaranteed money to the coach, as he did with Shanahan. In fact, I think Al is absolutely going to try that trick with Kiffin (and Kiffin’s lawyers) once he fires him. When Davis fired Shanahan, he had Shell on hand to slide right over. He also had a great roster of talent–this was when Al was at his top form as a talent evaluator; Al has no such roster at the present, though there is still some talent (JaMarcus, McFadden, Burgess, Asomugha, Morrison, Miller). Davis has James Lofton on board. He has Tom Rathman. He has Greg Knapp (though, as I’ve mentioned, I think Knapp is all but signed and sealed to become his buddy Jim Mora Jr.’s offensive coordinator in Seattle in 2009. Davis also has Jim Fassel hanging around because Fassel’s son is an assistant coach with the Raiders. Lofton, Rathman, Fassel, in that order, would be your top choices for interim/permanent Raiders coach once Kiffin is fired. Which could happen Monday or Tuesday if things go awry in Kansas City. And if Kiffin scratches out an OK performance Sunday? Then we start this up all over for next Monday or Tuesday, following a possible Raiders flame-out in Buffalo on Sept. 21. See how fun this is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 are you taking lessons in cut and paste from someone? I'm going to make a prediction and say that Kiffin will in fact be fired after Sunday's game. Ryan will take over for the remainder of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 Check this thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooknladder Posted September 14, 2008 Author Share Posted September 14, 2008 Check this thread yeah, i saw it. but the news it could come this week seemed like it was worth updating and a new thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooknladder Posted September 14, 2008 Author Share Posted September 14, 2008 are you taking lessons in cut and paste from someone? I'm going to make a prediction and say that Kiffin will in fact be fired after Sunday's game. Ryan will take over for the remainder of the year. yeah Gil, i just had'nt seen any news on this site regarding the possiblity of Kiffin getting fired after the K.C. game. just trying to keep all my friends here at the Huddle informed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicCEO Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 So the team will be directionless and lost until that’s decided–OK, it’ll always be directionless and lost until Al regains his senses or hires somebody credible to run things, but oh well, that’s not happening… This is readily apparent to everyone who has seen the Raiders since even before Gruden someone managed to have success, but is described terrifically here. Fricking Al. Someone should tell him he looks like an old lesbian, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimm74 Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 I think this is what Kiffin wants... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 I can see it now....Ryan is introduced as the new head coach for the NFFL Oakland Raiders (note the extra F ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muck Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 I think this is what Kiffin wants... I think so too ... He gets canned, then ends up as someone's OC for a couple of years of add'l seasoning and then resurfaces as a HC after he's had a few more birthdays. I would guess that many owners will give him a pass because he was in Al's Madhouse for his first go-round as a HC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxfactor Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 (edited) Who in their right mind would even consider being the head coach for clown Al? Edited September 14, 2008 by jaxfactor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushey Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 Rumor has it that Kiffin will be fired this week for sure. The early word is that the Raiders are going to hire an up in coming ex-player named Art Shell. You guys know him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 I think so too ... He gets canned, then ends up as someone's OC for a couple of years of add'l seasoning and then resurfaces as a HC after he's had a few more birthdays. I would guess that many owners will give him a pass because he was in Al's Madhouse for his first go-round as a HC. he could quit and have that happen....he wont quit because then he wont get PAID Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpholmes Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 he could quit and have that happen....he wont quit because then he wont get PAID Exactly. He was asked to resign a few months ago and refused because he wanted to get paid. Kiffin doesn't care if he coaches or gets fired, either way he makes his $$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 Exactly.He was asked to resign a few months ago and refused because he wanted to get paid. Kiffin doesn't care if he coaches or gets fired, either way he makes his $$ He deserves it for having to put up with all of the non-sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Score 1 Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 If the Raiders lose badly in KC, Kiffin could be fired by Monday or Tuesday Posted by Tim Kawakami I hear it could happen................ That's pretty vague...."I hear it could happen....." Anybody know of this Tim Kawakami guy? Is he a reputable beat writer for the Raiders? If so, does he have legit contacts inside the organization? Enquiring minds want to know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooGie Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 (edited) god i feel like a broken record, but I just have to keep saying it every single time someone mentions how pathetic and pitiful the Raiders are... This team is screwed...SCREWED until Al Davis dies. He's so out of his mind it's beyond laughable anymore. Al Davis truly doesn't have a clue. I mean, watching this shell of a former man, it's hard to believe he EVER had a clue. He couldn't be more out of control, if he was throwing feces at children and attacking puppies in pet stores. He has truly become a cancer of the NFL and he's keeping a once proud NFL franchise from being anything but sad and ridiculous and a parody of itself. So, just keep firing them Al, I'm sure there's at least ONE head coach that's good enough to take OAK-Town to the superbowl his first year, AND wants to work for you. Edited September 14, 2008 by LooGie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 Exactly.He was asked to resign a few months ago and refused because he wanted to get paid. Kiffin doesn't care if he coaches or gets fired, either way he makes his $$ They should have given the job to Ryan 2 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooGie Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 They should have given the job to Ryan 2 years ago. i just dont understand how anyone can blame Lane for anything. Nobody wanted the crappy job, because they ALL knew how awful it would be. Even Gruden, who was an actual winner for OAK, was traded. Al is the cancer. the common denominator in all of this. It's Al who needs to go. Period. Lane is a good HC, and willing to stick it out and see if he can't have even the slightest impact on the Raiders, DESPITE Al Davis, not because of him. Lane Kiffen would be a perfect fit if there was such a thing under Al Davis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimm74 Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 He will go for a college job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickvick Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 Is there any way Al Davis can be proven incapable of running an NFL team?Seriously, the Raiders have become the worst franchise in all the major sports.It's too bad the NFL cannot step in and do something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griff321 Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 Anyone have a link to a video of Ryan blowing up? Gotta be the best of the year by far and I can't find a single video of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egret Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 Is there any way Al Davis can be proven incapable of running an NFL team?Seriously, the Raiders have become the worst franchise in all the major sports.It's too bad the NFL cannot step in and do something. Unfortunately they aren't even the worst franchise in their sport. Lions fans are baring that burden. At least Raiders fans have a light at the end of the tunnel. Millen and Ford Jr. are in their early fifties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Sherman Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 Apparently Kiffin is "Not the guy I hired" according to Davis. Or perhaps Davis is not the guy who hired him? I dunno, if you believe half the stuff floating around, Kiffin is really just an OC, and Davis is the true HC. No one will have a shot at making a difference in Oakland as long as Al is around, and it is really a shame. They have some decent talent, but the Coaching staff is divided and continually undercut by Ownership. Al will be doing Kiffin a huge favor when he fires him and moves on to the next victim... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTheWebToedBoy Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 This is all on Al Davis. It doesn't matter what you do for a living, you cannot put a person in a position of authority and then not give them the power that goes along with it. If these coaches had any brains, they would boycott the Raiders until Davis signed a contract giving the HC the final say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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