hooknladder Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 The recent post from MDS regarding Peter King’s report that Titans quarterback Vince Young has lost the locker room (by the way, Eddie George says the same thing on FSN’s PFP . . . check your local listing for the next showing) convinces us that, barring a dramatic turn of events, Young will never play football again for the Tennessee Titans, and possibly never play again for any team. We firmly believe that Young would retire right now (and very well might have quit the game after his rookie year) if he didn’t have to pay back a big chunk of the bonus money he received when he signed his contract with the team in 2006. And we’re now thinking that the Titans’ best move is to enter an agreement with Young pursuant to which he can retire without repayment obligation, and that he’d have to pay the money back only if he ever signs a contract with another NFL team. Of course, if Young retires, the Titans could keep him from ever playing for another team by refusing to release him from the reserve/retired list. With the locker room lost, and with Young certain to face constant verbal harassment from opposing players on the field, this situation will not improve absent some heroic action on Young’s part (perhaps by throwing a pigskin a quarter-mile) to change his teammates’ minds. Even if he can win back his teammates, he’ll still have to constantly face defenders who believe that, if they frazzle him sufficiently, he’ll fall to pieces. On a separate note, there was a report/rumor on Eagles-focused site GCobb.com that Young had gone missing again on Friday night, and that police were again looking for him. We haven’t been able to confirm or conclusively debunk this rumor, and while Garry Cobb has done a good job in the past of nailing Eagles’ scoop, Cobb’s suggestion that one of his friends who has friends on the Titans “told me that head coach Jeff Fisher and the police were looking for Young again and there was a fear that he was going to do something bad to himself” is the kind of thing that could prompt no one to ever listen to anything he has to say about any team other than the Eagles, if the report/rumor is incorrect. Then again, it’s possible that Cobb is right on the money, and that the Titans have managed to completely cover this one up, just as they managed to hide some of the details of Monday night’s incident. And we don’t blame them for trying to cover this stuff up. In a case like this, disclosure of the truth would only make it harder to Vince Young to continue his career. Then again, given what we and everyone already know, we think it’s too late for that to happen, and that things are likely to only get worse if/when Young tries to play again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 I just hope he doesnt do anything bad to himself. I feel bad for a guy that is that close to the edge and I dont care how much money or fame he has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjpro11 Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 I just hope he doesnt do anything bad to himself. I feel bad for a guy that is that close to the edge and I dont care how much money or fame he has. i know.. he is supposed to be a genuinely nice guy from what i have heard. i would really hate to see something bad happen to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 Of course, if Young retires, the Titans could keep him from ever playing for another team by refusing to release him from the reserve/retired list. He could petition the commish for reinstatement as another QB did this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 He could petition the commish for reinstatement as another QB did this year. And who might that be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medal of Honor Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 (edited) Joe Montana I wonder if Joe Montana is related to Hanna Montana Edited September 14, 2008 by Medal of Honor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 (edited) Joe Montana I wonder if Joe Montana is related to Hanna Montana Montana is her stage name, so that is a no. Edited September 14, 2008 by Big John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushey Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 If he is that fragile he needs to retire. Let's hope he never has to get a real job where he may get criticized by someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickvick Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 How about medication?Just because he is an elite athlete does not mean he is free from mental illness.He should not be looked down upon if he actually has clinical depression. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdrudge Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 If he is that fragile he needs to retire. Let's hope he never has to get a real job where he may get criticized by someone.I don't think that there are too many "real jobs" in which you will have 60,000 people criticizing you all at once on a weekly basis, plus thousands more watching you on TV. My opinion, get him a few weeks minimum to get his chit together, figure out a anti-depressent and/or anti-anxiety that works, and get things straighten out. Just tossing him out there for the wolves to feed on isn't going to do anything for his mental well being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egret Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 How about medication?Just because he is an elite athlete does not mean he is free from mental illness.He should not be looked down upon if he actually has clinical depression. Word, however this may already be happening and we don't know it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skilly Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 How about medication?Just because he is an elite athlete does not mean he is free from mental illness.He should not be looked down upon if he actually has clinical depression. He should seek out Ricky Williams for advice, and perhaps some "medication." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 If he doesn't want to play he's a 25 year old multimillionaire that can do anything he wants. He needs to step back and get some perspective on what he wants. Vince I know things look bleak right now but get some counseling and evaluate your life. Finish school. Start a company. Hell I'd love to be young and rich right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 To what does the Uncle Rico nickname refer? I've never known. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duchess Jack Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 If he is that fragile he needs to retire. Let's hope he never has to get a real job where he may get criticized by someone. wow. I'd be willing to bet that you'll never, ever face the kind of pressure that this cat has. Folk heckle you in the street, they heckle your family... a lot of sports fans are drunken tools with no prespective. Add to this a person who is suffering with depression and you've a dangerous cocktale. I cannot comment on the drunken part, but you yourself seem to have shown a complete lack of prespective here as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushey Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 I don't think that there are too many "real jobs" in which you will have 60,000 people criticizing you all at once on a weekly basis, plus thousands more watching you on TV. My opinion, get him a few weeks minimum to get his chit together, figure out a anti-depressent and/or anti-anxiety that works, and get things straighten out. Just tossing him out there for the wolves to feed on isn't going to do anything for his mental well being. A few weeks to get the right medicine? That may take months. Hopefully he can get that done. My point is that Vince may not have been criticized at all growing up and was told he was perfect. You can see how the bubble would burst in the NFL. Lots of reality in his life at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushey Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 wow. I'd be willing to bet that you'll never, ever face the kind of pressure that this cat has. Folk heckle you in the street, they heckle your family... a lot of sports fans are drunken tools with no prespective. Add to this a person who is suffering with depression and you've a dangerous cocktale. I cannot comment on the drunken part, but you yourself seem to have shown a complete lack of prespective here as well. Life is tough. This economy is tough. Having a family that relies on you is tough. Going to school full time, working full time and feeding a family is tough. Working class Joe's have it much tougher than highly paid athletes. If I had the security of an endless amount of cash, I think I could get through this tough time. That is my prespective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 How about medication?Just because he is an elite athlete does not mean he is free from mental illness.He should not be looked down upon if he actually has clinical depression. I saw a program on public television about depression. The Houston Texans are the only nfl team that has mental health benefits for its players. b/c one of its directors has had a long-running battle w/ depression....not that Young couldn't afford to seek treatment separately, of course! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zooty Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 To what does the Uncle Rico nickname refer? I've never known. Napoleon Dynamite and the similar throwing motions of Uncle Rico and VY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 wow. I'd be willing to bet that you'll never, ever face the kind of pressure that this cat has. Folk heckle you in the street, they heckle your family... a lot of sports fans are drunken tools with no prespective. Add to this a person who is suffering with depression and you've a dangerous cocktale. I cannot comment on the drunken part, but you yourself seem to have shown a complete lack of prespective here as well. I get that kind of treatment from republicans all the time. Look there are always idiots in sports. And elsewhere. Neighbors would yell at Mark McGwire and tell him tom get out of town when he was still in Oakland. What did he think, he would be adored? Didn't he watch McNabb's draft or the mayhem in the NBA? Doesn't he know why so many celebrities lose the ability to walk the streets or have a regular life? Jordan and movie stars have talked about it a great many times. It's part if being famous. Get treatment Vince. Yes there are some drugs that work, but he may just need to stay away from the public square and have people shop for him. And go to friends houses instead of downtown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
untateve Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 Life is tough. This economy is tough. Having a family that relies on you is tough. Going to school full time, working full time and feeding a family is tough. Working class Joe's have it much tougher than highly paid athletes. If I had the security of an endless amount of cash, I think I could get through this tough time. That is my prespective. I think it's very easy to judge someone who may have a mental illness when one has never experienced mental illness first hand or seen what it can do to someone close. Respectfully, but bluntly, your perspective is myopic at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 Napoleon Dynamite and the similar throwing motions of Uncle Rico and VY ...except that coach put Vince in during the state finals game in HS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 I think it's very easy to judge someone who may have a mental illness when one has never experienced mental illness first hand or seen what it can do to someone close. Respectfully, but bluntly, your perspective is myopic at best. Playing shrink from a distance is tough, but do you REALLY think VY has mental illness? I think he's just fragile and unaccustomed to the love. I'd be hesitant to qualify that as "illness." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjpro11 Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 you cant criticize the guy because we dont know if there are internal issues beyond his control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Cid Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 A meltdown is never a positive thing, regardless of the reasons for it happening. The kid obviously needs support and counseling not more harrassment. In the immortal words of Jagger/Richards, you can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you get what you need. I hope VY gets what he needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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