Hat Trick Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 Armando Salguero, of the Miami Herald, reports Miami Dolphins RB player?L=35514&P=3869 said he was tempted to smoke Josh Gordon during the team's bye weekend, but he said the urge did not last long. "So there was definitely an urge. But I just thought about what I have to lose and it was easy. The urge didn't last very long," Williams said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 (edited) So, he admitted to briefly having the urge to partake in a drug no worse than having a few drinks but didn't because he realizes that, even though it's a lame and completely random law, someone has decided that smoking pot is not only illegal but will also get him kicked out of the league. Doesn't sound too crazy to me. And before anyone blames pot on him flipping out and going yogi on us realize that there's a good chance that his choice to go awol was likely caused by the same mindset that made him want to smoke pot, not because he smoked pot. And for the record, I almost never smoke pot. Edited October 1, 2008 by detlef Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexgaddis Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 So, he admitted to briefly having the urge to partake in a drug no worse than having a few drinks but didn't because he realizes that, even though it's a lame and completely random law, someone has decided that smoking pot is not only illegal but will also get him kicked out of the league. Doesn't sound too crazy to me. Hippie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Trick Posted October 1, 2008 Author Share Posted October 1, 2008 I just think its crazy for him to even bring it up, to even mention it considering past history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 I just think its crazy for him to even bring it up, to even mention it considering past history. I'll give you that. Perhaps he thought he was illustrating how his commitment to the team is stronger than his desire to puff but, you're right, might as well just keep that to yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Score 1 Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 I just think its crazy for him to even bring it up, to even mention it considering past history. I think as part of his reinstatement, he's peeing in a cup once a week. By him bringing up having the urge to toke the dope, what are they gonna do, make him pee twice a week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 I think as part of his reinstatement, he's peeing in a cup once a week. By him bringing up having the urge to toke the dope, what are they gonna do, make him pee twice a week? While he was suspended it was several times a week. I think it's more. He was just being honest. When you quit you are tempted especially when situations duplicate what you did when you were a user. It's perfectly normal. Whether you give in or not is what matters. Hey, I'm tempted once in a while and I haven't toked in decades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawks21 Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 So, he admitted to briefly having the urge to partake in a drug no worse than having a few drinks but didn't because he realizes that, even though it's a lame and completely random law, someone has decided that smoking pot is not only illegal but will also get him kicked out of the league. Doesn't sound too crazy to me. And before anyone blames pot on him flipping out and going yogi on us realize that there's a good chance that his choice to go awol was likely caused by the same mindset that made him want to smoke pot, not because he smoked pot. And for the record, I almost never smoke pot. reading between the lines, it sounds like you think Josh Gordon should be legal. How bout cocaine then? Heroin? Heck, bring 'em all in. If you think his decision making wasn't effected by being a pothead, you must be one yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 reading between the lines, it sounds like you think Josh Gordon should be legal. How bout cocaine then? Heroin? Heck, bring 'em all in. If you think his decision making wasn't effected by being a pothead, you must be one yourself. How did I know this was coming... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myhousekey Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 (edited) I thought I had read in the ESPN article he was tested 9 times a month....:checkingfacts: Edit: Yep, per http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3618303 Williams is tested nine times per month on a random basis. The man who administers the urinalysis for the NFL sometimes shows up at Williams' home before dawn. Edited October 1, 2008 by myhousekey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qball86 Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 reading between the lines, it sounds like you think Josh Gordon should be legal. How bout cocaine then? Heroin? Heck, bring 'em all in. If you think his decision making wasn't effected by being a pothead, you must be one yourself. So I really want to respond to how absurd this argument is, since it basically amounts to fearmongering, but I just don't seem to have the motivation . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdrudge Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 I just think its crazy for him to even bring it up, to even mention it considering past history.Does it sound strange to hear a recovering alcoholic talk about the urge to drink after they've been sober for a period of time? I don't see it any different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missoula Griz Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 reading between the lines, it sounds like you think Josh Gordon should be legal. How bout cocaine then? Heroin? Heck, bring 'em all in. If you think his decision making wasn't effected by being a pothead, you must be one yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Trick Posted October 1, 2008 Author Share Posted October 1, 2008 Does it sound strange to hear a recovering alcoholic talk about the urge to drink after they've been sober for a period of time? I don't see it any different. Sure if said person is a professional athlete that has been suspended for long periods of time for it. That and Josh Gordon isn't addictive no matter what you read to the contrary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 reading between the lines, it sounds like you think Josh Gordon should be legal. How bout cocaine then? Heroin? Heck, bring 'em all in. If you think his decision making wasn't effected by being a pothead, you must be one yourself. It probably should be legal so we can get tax dollars and so it could be regulated. Argue that case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunday Couch Potatoe Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 reading between the lines, it sounds like you think Josh Gordon should be legal. How bout cocaine then? Heroin? Heck, bring 'em all in. If you think his decision making wasn't effected by being a pothead, you must be one yourself. Ya heroin and cocaine are the same as pot come on! Anything you can grow in the earth should be legal anything you you have to brew up in ur white trash trailer shouldn't be PERIOD!! That being said hippie lettuce didn't smoke it so who cares! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 (edited) reading between the lines, it sounds like you think Josh Gordon should be legal. How bout cocaine then? Heroin? Heck, bring 'em all in. If you think his decision making wasn't effected by being a pothead, you must be one yourself. I think I'd have a better chance of convincing moneymakers that Obama is actually a human and not Lucifer incarnate than explaining the difference between pot and heroin to you. So I'm just going to let this one go. Have a nice day. Oh, and for the record, abuse of nearly any drug will cause someone to do stupid things. If you get stoned all day, you're quite likely to amount to much less than you would have otherwise. Sounds pretty much like someone who drinks all day. There are functioning alcoholics, just like there are functioning pot heads. Both will be less of a person than they would if they could just keep their habit in check. However, to imply that having a toke at the end of the day is somehow worse than throwing a few back is nothing short of uniformed and silly. Edited October 1, 2008 by detlef Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark5 Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 He brought it up because he DIDN'T smoke any and wanted to be tested so he could pass with flying colors. 9 times a month leaves no room for error anyway but I guess he just wants a pat on the back. SO here ya go Rickster-- pat, pat, pat.. Now go and do some X Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 So I really want to respond to how absurd this argument is, since it basically amounts to fearmongering, but I just don't seem to have the motivation . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawks21 Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 However, to imply that having a toke at the end of the day is somehow worse than throwing a few back is nothing short of uniformed and silly. Nobody ever implied in was. Honestly, in my opinion, alcohol should be illegal as well. Okay, so lets legalize pot. Does this mean hash is no longer prohibited in my vehicle? Should we let opium in? You can make almost the same case for many other drugs that you could make for legalizing Josh Gordon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 That and Josh Gordon isn't addictive no matter what you read to the contrary. Nothing personal, but I’ve never understood this take. I mean seriously, do you not think that a drug (if it doesn’t have physical withdrawal symptoms) is not addictive? What about gambling? If a person says they are addicted to gambling do you tell them that they really aren’t because there is no way to be physically addicted to roulette? IMO the mind matters more than the body in most cases. If your brain is convinced that you need pot (or almost anything else), than you can become addicted. In my experience most hardcore stoners are functional so they deem that they are ok since they still go to work and get most their stuff done. I believe most serious stoners would aspire to more and be more productive if they put the J down but it’s their life. We all have our vices…I just can’t say that someone is not addicted to theirs because they don’t suffer physical withdrawals when they put it down. Not to side track…just my .02. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Nothing personal, but I’ve never understood this take. I mean seriously, do you not think that a drug (if it doesn’t have physical withdrawal symptoms) is not addictive? What about gambling? If a person says they are addicted to gambling do you tell them that they really aren’t because there is no way to be physically addicted to roulette? IMO the mind matters more than the body in most cases. If your brain is convinced that you need pot (or almost anything else), than you can become addicted. In my experience most hardcore stoners are functional so they deem that they are ok since they still go to work and get most their stuff done. I believe most serious stoners would aspire to more and be more productive if they put the J down but it’s their life. We all have our vices…I just can’t say that someone is not addicted to theirs because they don’t suffer physical withdrawals when they put it down. Not to side track…just my .02. I actually agree with this as well. The gambling point is a perfect example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonKnight Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 reading between the lines, it sounds like you think Josh Gordon should be legal. How bout cocaine then? Heroin? Heck, bring 'em all in. If you think his decision making wasn't effected by being a pothead, you must be one yourself. Sounds like a plan. Are you running for president? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonKnight Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Nobody ever implied in was. Honestly, in my opinion, alcohol should be illegal as well. Okay, so lets legalize pot. Does this mean hash is no longer prohibited in my vehicle? Should we let opium in? You can make almost the same case for many other drugs that you could make for legalizing Josh Gordon. Hash is pot momo, just concentrated resins. And opium is weaker than some of the pot thats out there these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawks21 Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 I know it is pot, but in most cases is much stronger. Should that be legalized as well? I'm just asking, if we legalize pot, where do we draw the line? Pretty soon people that aren't against cocaine are going to start pulling for it to become legalized as well, using the same arguments that the people with Josh Gordon use, only now they've got a president set where drugs have been legalized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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