hollywood_69 Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 a couple of guys in my work league are trading for 1 week time frames and swapping back, what do you think of this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pig devilz Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 i think you should send them an inter office email, with a staph infection attached. thats bs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Tradebacks are collusion. Need to be disallowed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Answer is obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Dick Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 a couple of guys in my work league are trading for 1 week time frames and swapping back, what do you think of this? Let them make the first trade, then deny the second. That'll learn 'em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hollywood_69 Posted October 25, 2008 Author Share Posted October 25, 2008 i'm not the commish, this is everybody's 2nd year playing fantasy football. I feel like the bad guy trying to explain how wrong this is. Thank god there is no money involved! Everybody is just trying to win and bust chops afterwards. I'm 6-1 in this league! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tosberg34 Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 It's clearly collusion. Who is the commish and why hasn't he done anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopher Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Sounds like he's playing with a bunch of guys (or at least some of them) who don't know any better. There are more leagues out there like this than most of us realize, filled with your "casual" fantasy players, who don't really have an understanding of the basic rules of fantasy "etiquette." Of course, if the commish knew what he was doing, it wouldn't be a matter of etiquette, it would be against the rules, period. Kind of like when you're a kid, playing a pickup game of hoops, and the kid who has never played before starts running around with the ball, not dribbling. In some cases, you're better off just letting it go, as to not hurt the guy's feelings. Like he said, no money involved... I'm not in any free leagues, but if I was, and this took place, I'd probably make some suggestions in the off-season for next year (assuming I wanted to stay in a league with them): - Play for a little cash just to keep everyone "interested." - No trade-backs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopher Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 And, by the way, if the members didn't like either of those proposed rules, I'd be.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziachild007 Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Ive never seen the big issue with tradebacks as long as it wasnt becoming a regular occurance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Not in any league ... not ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Ask them how they will feel if they swap players for one week and this scenario happens: Team A trades Clinton Portis to Team B for Steve Smith (CAR) with the agreement that they will trade back next week. Clinton Portis has a season ending injury and Team A doesn't want to trade Steve Smith back for a player that is out for the season. I know, I know ... they will both exclaim that they would never do that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballjoe Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Meet with the cmmish and discuss the problem one on one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Holy Roller Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Take advantage of the situation! Go do a trade back deal with someone else. Apparently it's OK in your league. Open that can of worms up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MothAudio Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 (edited) Jeez, and I thought the guys in my office league were bozos. It's growing pains but the commish needs to step up and make some rules. Those should have been written before the season statred [or draft] but that's how it works. You can't think of everything and I don't have a ruling on what your league did but I covered most of the more obvious one's in our league rules. It took a few years to get everything hammered out and Josh Gordon out the bad apples but lately it's been very uneventful. Edited October 26, 2008 by MothAudio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.K.Trey Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 Ive never seen the big issue with tradebacks as long as it wasnt becoming a regular occurance. I hope you are kidding! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piranha Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 No way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suture Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 Ask if you can borrow their wives, then say it's okay because you'll give them back when you're done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimm74 Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 In some cases, you're better off just letting it go, as to not hurt the guy's feelings. This is a joke right? I hope this league has a prize for every team and there are no losers...In fact records are not allowed and the weekly games are judged by a random color star rating which does lift anyone above or below the other. Just busting your chops here, but even free leagues need to follow rules for the the league to be enjoyed to its fullest for everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyjets Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 Just let it go. Right or wrong, that's the etiquette of the league, if you're playing with these bozos you should be able to beat 'em anyway. Use the tactic yourself if you have to. It kind of reminds me of a weekly poker game I'm in. I bet $100 on the turn and someone raises to $120. I could tell them "no you have to bet $200" or I could turn a blind-eye because it doesn't really matter, at the end of the night I have all his money anyway. There's no need to hurt someone's feelings, especially if it's a work-league. Sometimes real-life relationships are more important than fantasy football principles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimm74 Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 Just let it go. Right or wrong, that's the etiquette of the league, if you're playing with these bozos you should be able to beat 'em anyway. Use the tactic yourself if you have to. It kind of reminds me of a weekly poker game I'm in. I bet $100 on the turn and someone raises to $120. I could tell them "no you have to bet $200" or I could turn a blind-eye because it doesn't really matter, at the end of the night I have all his money anyway. There's no need to hurt someone's feelings, especially if it's a work-league. Sometimes real-life relationships are more important than fantasy football principles. What is wrong with our adult relationships now? How come we do not have the tools to explain something to someone without hurting their feels? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboysDiehard Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 It kind of reminds me of a weekly poker game I'm in. I bet $100 on the turn and someone raises to $120. I could tell them "no you have to bet $200" or I could turn a blind-eye because it doesn't really matter, at the end of the night I have all his money anyway. Heck, whatever happened to saying "I'm your huckleberry" and breaking out the pistols? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziachild007 Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 I hope you are kidding! Nope. I have been in leagues with waivers that run once a week with no FCFS. Teams have tried to pick up 2-3 players, but they were all taken before his pick. His team was decimated with byes and injuries so, but couldn't get anyone to trade with him. Rather than submit an invalid lineup and recieve 0 points and basically give the game away, he worked a deal with another guy in the same situation just for a week. I am sure I am in the minority, but I just don't see how that is collusional. Are they combining teams to get a powerhouse team? No, not in the case or two i have seen it. Are they trading scrubs for studs? No, and both teams were still in contention. Are the doing it in a misleading way? No, but I can't say for sure in your situation. In the instances I am taling about it was agreed to as part of the trade, so both parties and all other 10 members knew what was going on. Now if it is happening all the time between the same people thats a different problem. Like others have said, if its against your leauge rules, then don't allow it. If its not, then maybe you can bring it up for next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tosberg34 Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 Nope. I have been in leagues with waivers that run once a week with no FCFS. Teams have tried to pick up 2-3 players, but they were all taken before his pick. His team was decimated with byes and injuries so, but couldn't get anyone to trade with him. Rather than submit an invalid lineup and recieve 0 points and basically give the game away, he worked a deal with another guy in the same situation just for a week. I am sure I am in the minority, but I just don't see how that is collusional. Are they combining teams to get a powerhouse team? No, not in the case or two i have seen it. Are they trading scrubs for studs? No, and both teams were still in contention. Are the doing it in a misleading way? No, but I can't say for sure in your situation. In the instances I am taling about it was agreed to as part of the trade, so both parties and all other 10 members knew what was going on. Now if it is happening all the time between the same people thats a different problem. Like others have said, if its against your leauge rules, then don't allow it. If its not, then maybe you can bring it up for next year. It's still collusion IMO. Whether they do it once or all season long. I'm sure the teams they are playing against might have something to say about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimm74 Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 Nope. I have been in leagues with waivers that run once a week with no FCFS. Teams have tried to pick up 2-3 players, but they were all taken before his pick. His team was decimated with byes and injuries so, but couldn't get anyone to trade with him. Rather than submit an invalid lineup and recieve 0 points and basically give the game away, he worked a deal with another guy in the same situation just for a week. I am sure I am in the minority, but I just don't see how that is collusional. Are they combining teams to get a powerhouse team? No, not in the case or two i have seen it. Are they trading scrubs for studs? No, and both teams were still in contention. Are the doing it in a misleading way? No, but I can't say for sure in your situation. In the instances I am taling about it was agreed to as part of the trade, so both parties and all other 10 members knew what was going on. Now if it is happening all the time between the same people thats a different problem. Like others have said, if its against your leauge rules, then don't allow it. If its not, then maybe you can bring it up for next year. We all are decimated by byes and injuries....thats the game... How big is the league? There were NO free agents at all? All a team needs is a warm body to not receive a blank for the team...maybe a blank for a player which ive done plenty of times. I think most fantasy football managers are amazed that you do not see how a conditional trade is invalid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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