Flip_Side Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Anyone think Denver can pull their heads out their arse and make it a game or do the Browns just unleash the Dogs pound and obliterate the donkeys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Let me see: CLE is giving up 148 ypg rushing while gaining 94 ypg rushing - a 54 ypg deficit. They surrender 4.7 ypc while only gaining 3.7 ypc - a massive 1.0 ypc differential. CLE surrenders 209 ypg passing while gaining 182 ypg passing, and allows opponents a 7.35 ypa while only gaining 5.98 ypa, again a whopping 1.37 ypa differential. CLE opponents score equally well on the ground and in the air against CLE, averaging more than 1 TD per game each way. Then we add that Brady Quinn is starting his first game as a NFL QB - not an occassion where most QBs put up massive numbers. And he's throwing to a #1 WR who leads the NFL in drops this season. This isn't to say DEN is much better. I've painfully documented their shortcomings numerous times on this board. But wondering whether DEN can somehow manage to give CLE a game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 BTW - for anyone paying attention for whatever reason, and to refrain from starting another Torain thread: DEN newspapers are listing Torain as the starter tonight. I heard an interview of Torain this morning, and while he was his usual cheerful & entertaining self, he was noticably quiet. He normally engages interviewers and willingly contributes a lot of information, whereas in this interview he was exceptionally closed mouthed. He would not answer the question of whether he was starting or not. He did respond to a question about his arm that he was, quote, "most definitely 100%". When asked whether he could take 15 to 20 carries, he responded enthusiastically that he could handle that workload easily. When asked how many carries he thought he would get, he again reverted to being coy and refused to put forth any kind of number. It sounded to me like a guy with his serious game face on. We'll see... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 BTW - for anyone paying attention for whatever reason, and to refrain from starting another Torain thread: DEN newspapers are listing Torain as the starter tonight. I heard an interview of Torain this morning, and while he was his usual cheerful & entertaining self, he was noticably quiet. He normally engages interviewers and willingly contributes a lot of information, whereas in this interview he was exceptionally closed mouthed. He would not answer the question of whether he was starting or not. He did respond to a question about his arm that he was, quote, "most definitely 100%". When asked whether he could take 15 to 20 carries, he responded enthusiastically that he could handle that workload easily. When asked how many carries he thought he would get, he again reverted to being coy and refused to put forth any kind of number. It sounded to me like a guy with his serious game face on. We'll see... Fortunately, unlike last week, I've got enough good options at RB that I don't need to start him but I'd love to see him go off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Let me see: CLE is giving up 148 ypg rushing while gaining 94 ypg rushing - a 54 ypg deficit. They surrender 4.7 ypc while only gaining 3.7 ypc - a massive 1.0 ypc differential. CLE surrenders 209 ypg passing while gaining 182 ypg passing, and allows opponents a 7.35 ypa while only gaining 5.98 ypa, again a whopping 1.37 ypa differential. CLE opponents score equally well on the ground and in the air against CLE, averaging more than 1 TD per game each way. Then we add that Brady Quinn is starting his first game as a NFL QB - not an occassion where most QBs put up massive numbers. And he's throwing to a #1 WR who leads the NFL in drops this season. This isn't to say DEN is much better. I've painfully documented their shortcomings numerous times on this board. But wondering whether DEN can somehow manage to give CLE a game? ask the NYG about differentials... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 ask the NYG about differentials... The point remains that I don't think Cleveland has earned the right for us to speculate if any NFL team has what it takes to keep up with them. The answer to that question should remain a very confident "yes". Now this doesn't mean that Den won't go out there and crap their pants, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 (edited) ask the NYG about differentials... Why? They're 7-1 and in first place. They have the 8th best O in the league and the 3rd best D. They average a whopping +77 rushing ypg differential and a +34 passing ypg differential. They hold a hugh 6.2 ypa vs 5.2 ypa advantage over their opponents in passing and a ginormous 5.2 ypc vs 3.8 ypc advantage over their opponents in rushing. For good measure, they are also +6 in TO ratio. If any team epitomizes the advantages of owning their opponents in differentials, it's the Giants. Edited November 6, 2008 by Bronco Billy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xMRogers Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Why? They're 7-1 and in first place. They have the 8th best O in the league and the 3rd best D. They average a whopping +77 rushing ypg differential and a +34 passing ypg differential. They hold a hugh 6.2 ypa vs 5.2 ypa advantage over their opponents in passing and a ginormous 5.2 ypc vs 3.8 ypc advantage over their opponents in rushing. For good measure, they are also +6 in TO ratio. If any team epitomizes the advantages of owning their opponents in differentials, it's the Giants. My guess is he was talking about the super bowl...just a guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheikYerbuti Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 I wouldn't touch a Denver game with someone else's bankroll. They make Forrest Gump's box of chocolates look predictable. That being said, I own Torain in 2 leagues, and like most I'm keeping him on the bench, hoping he goes off today and trading him tomorrow for as much value as I can squeeze out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 My guess is he was talking about the super bowl...just a guess Actually, I think he was talking about CLE handing the Giants their only loss so far this year... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinL Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 My guess is he was talking about the super bowl...just a guess Or the ass-kicking our Browns put on them on our previous prime-time game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chodan Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 What channel is the game on? NFL Network? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 What channel is the game on? NFL Network? Yep, unless you are in DEN's or CLE's local's reach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missoula Griz Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 What channel is the game on? NFL Network? 154 on Dishnetwork Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 154 on Dishnetwork and 212 on Direct TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Yep, unless you are in DEN's or CLE's local's reach. Be aware that the "Local Reach" is a lot smaller for NFL Network than for other networks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJV Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 and 212 on Direct TV. Channel 88 on Verizon FIOS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belushi Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 448 on Bell Expressview (Canada). Unless TSN carries it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose228 Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 what channel is HD Nfl Network for Directv? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myhousekey Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 (edited) what channel is HD Nfl Network for Directv? 212 HD Edited November 6, 2008 by myhousekey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonkis Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 BTW - for anyone paying attention for whatever reason, and to refrain from starting another Torain thread: DEN newspapers are listing Torain as the starter tonight. I heard an interview of Torain this morning, and while he was his usual cheerful & entertaining self, he was noticably quiet. He normally engages interviewers and willingly contributes a lot of information, whereas in this interview he was exceptionally closed mouthed. He would not answer the question of whether he was starting or not. He did respond to a question about his arm that he was, quote, "most definitely 100%". When asked whether he could take 15 to 20 carries, he responded enthusiastically that he could handle that workload easily. When asked how many carries he thought he would get, he again reverted to being coy and refused to put forth any kind of number. It sounded to me like a guy with his serious game face on. We'll see... What have you heard about Scheffler? Anything? I'd really love to start him in my 32 homarrrr league against Denver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonkis Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 http://forums.thehuddle.com/index.php?show...p;#entry2685456 Guess they might play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip_Side Posted November 6, 2008 Author Share Posted November 6, 2008 Let me see: CLE is giving up 148 ypg rushing while gaining 94 ypg rushing - a 54 ypg deficit. They surrender 4.7 ypc while only gaining 3.7 ypc - a massive 1.0 ypc differential. CLE surrenders 209 ypg passing while gaining 182 ypg passing, and allows opponents a 7.35 ypa while only gaining 5.98 ypa, again a whopping 1.37 ypa differential. CLE opponents score equally well on the ground and in the air against CLE, averaging more than 1 TD per game each way. Then we add that Brady Quinn is starting his first game as a NFL QB - not an occassion where most QBs put up massive numbers. And he's throwing to a #1 WR who leads the NFL in drops this season. This isn't to say DEN is much better. I've painfully documented their shortcomings numerous times on this board. But wondering whether DEN can somehow manage to give CLE a game? Bunch of gibberish who cares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 What have you heard about Scheffler? Anything? I'd really love to start him in my 32 homarrrr league against Denver. All we've heard is that he practiced all week, but was limited all week. Usually limited is not good when it comes to Shanahan - he usually requires guys who are going to get a lot of reps to practice at least once fully at least 2 days prior to the game. I'd love to help you out, but that's about the best I can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Bunch of gibberish who cares. How enlightened. So what does your Magic 8-ball say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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