T-Scorp Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Not sure this is right forum for this but... I know Romo is back but can I start him over Thigpen who has been on fire? I guess this goes back to the always start your studs mentallity, but in the case of coming off an injury does this hold true. I have always preferred Stud theory vs matchup theory but is there a time when a stud is not a stud due to matchup or returning from an injury or poor line play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiley Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 When he's Braylon Edwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Agent Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 When Henry Muto tells you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Not sure this is right forum for this but... I know Romo is back but can I start him over Thigpen who has been on fire? I guess this goes back to the always start your studs mentallity, but in the case of coming off an injury does this hold true. I have always preferred Stud theory vs matchup theory but is there a time when a stud is not a stud due to matchup or returning from an injury or poor line play? I certainly subscribe to the "start your stud" theory, but as you intimate here, I think there are caveats: one, and most importantly, injury status. Romo is supposedly playing with some kind of splint/brace. Not sure how/if it will affect his throwing, but you'd think it would have to, no? A second caveat - albeit not quite as important - is matchup. Yeah, Romo's a "stud", but has a difficult road matchup against a divisional rival. Thigpen, who has been "on fire", has a terrific matchup. As an aside, I'm starting Thigpen over Jason Campbell this week. While Campbell is not of Romo's stud ilk, he's been steady all season and represents a fine start. I don't think anyone would look sideways at you for taking into consideration the injury concern and matchup when leaving Romo on the bench in favor of Thigpen. Man, never thought I'd say something like that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTed46 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 When he's Braylon Edwards. +1 What a disaster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustOfBeenDrunk Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Sjax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belushi Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 I've got the same problem. I just traded for Romo and picked up Thigpen. I've also got Delhomme coming off a terrible game and now playing the Lions. Guranteed I'll pick the wrong guy. I've got Romo in there now because I could see this maybe being a high-scoring game, but who's knows? With Springs hobbled and Dallas with a chip on their shoulder, they could be out to make a statement. Or Romo could hurt his pinky on the first play and be out for the whole game. Not an easy call, but I don't want to miss out on Romo if he throws for 300 yards and 3 TD's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABearWithFurniture Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 IMHO, the start your stud theory is based on your stud going through a couple of bad games, and not on coming back from injury...it usually takes 'any' ball player a few quarters to again get used to the rhythm of game play, so tempering your expectations is usually a good thing. And by all means, I'd play Thigpen this weekend over Romo in a heartbeat... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
policyvote Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 I personally NEVER start a player the week he comes back from an injury, unless he is a shut-up stud and/or I have no competent backup at that position. Romo was making noise about not missing any time at all, and instead he needed like a month to come back. I wouldn't touch Romo this week if you have a hot hand in there. Peace policy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rileyrott Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 When he's Braylon Edwards. +2. Totally sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Your stud is not a stud when it's week 10 and he's not putting up stud numbers. At some point, you have to readjust. I'm at that stage with LT right now. First half of the season, dude is the #1 overall pick and a must start regardless of the matchup. Now, if it's him @ Pitt or someone like Forte vs a weak run D, you've got to think long and hard about sitting him. He's still good enough to start against even a decent D, but nobody you have to feel bad about not rolling out regardless of the matchup. His name alone is not worth 20 FF pts. Same obviously goes for B Edwards, Larry Johnson, to some degree Randy Moss... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rileyrott Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Your stud is not a stud when it's week 10 and he's not putting up stud numbers. At some point, you have to readjust. Same obviously goes for B Edwards, Larry Johnson, to some degree Randy Moss... Add J Addai to the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Add J Addai to the list. yup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 I'm like to start Rodgers over Romo this week end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesVikes Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 (edited) I still remember the time when I benched Peyton Manning against a tough TB Defense. There's no way one Peyton Manning that hadn't had a decent game so far to date would tear up a shut down defense like a dominating Bucs D. Right? No Wrong. Week 5 of 2003 was the scene of the crime. He had 3 passing tds after week three, had a great week 4 then faced a Tampa team that absolutely shut teams down that year. Edited November 13, 2008 by MikesVikes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baddfish2 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Add J Addai to the list. Plaxico Burress anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photobiz2 Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Not sure this is right forum for this but... I know Romo is back but can I start him over Thigpen who has been on fire? I guess this goes back to the always start your studs mentallity, but in the case of coming off an injury does this hold true. I have always preferred Stud theory vs matchup theory but is there a time when a stud is not a stud due to matchup or returning from an injury or poor line play? I'm in this same boat..Thigpen vs Romo. I agree that Romo won't be 100% and that there is a lot of risk in starting him...BUT is Thigpen a proven player? Does 2 good games out of 3 qualify? Before the injury, Romo was a guaranteed 20+ pts every week. This is a must win game for the Cowboys IMO...so they're going to try to come out blazin' in this game. Romo is definitely a high risk/reward player this week...I just think the possible reward could far outweigh the 250/2 that is likely for Thigpen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LayLow Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 A stud is not a stud when: 1. He is not the focal part of an offense 2. He has not proven that he can put up elite numbers vs anyone (not just against good matchups ie Michael Turner) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon General Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 When his name is Torry Holt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xMRogers Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Lets take this to a different level cause these aren't studs were talking about - their either hurt guys or guys that may have had the label either by reputation or past performance but simply aren't that anymore.... In looking at last week, lets say you had Brian Westbrook (an always start stud) as your number 2 RB (somehow you also have APete for instance), but your third RB was Thomas Jones agaist the Rams - do you take matchups into circumstance especially at RB in the "always start the stud" argument? Hindsight is obviously 10/40 (hindsight should be a lot better than "good" vision)...but should there be a level of matchup differential that would go against "always start your studs" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isleseeya Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Plaxico Burress anyone? + 10000 i am thinking of sitting Plax and starting Bradley this week from KC ( He has been red hot and very good match up against Saints ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxfactor Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 I'm starting Matt Ryan in 2 leagues over Homo...I mean Romo. Just have to see what he does first and Ryan's been playing very well also. My only worry is that Hotlanta doesn't have to throw because Turner and Norwood are running all over the hapless Broncos D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishPride Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 (edited) While kinda in same boat.....Reggie Bush coming off injury, Even if he played I was going to play Marion Barber against the skins and everyone that plays fantasy football, should know MB3 is owned by the skins. So I made the choice even if Bush played......against KC, that a healthy Barber against a team that owns him is a better start. I don't like playing injured players, you never know if they are completely healed. It's a business and I believe players are rushed back......not at 75% but 85% and up sure. I think, like every week there are different variables, Where is the defense ranked, are there injuries that affect the start offense or defense and mostly just pure research........(Blind Luck!) A stud is a target and when his targets start to fade thats when he is not a stud! Looks and Touches........ Edited November 15, 2008 by IrishPride Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tosberg34 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 When Henry Muto tells you. Who the hell is this Henry Muto guy? I see this same stuff posted in other posts. Some background information please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy D. Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 When he's Braylon Edwards. + 100000000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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