Capt. Stanky Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 I was just wondering what some of the huddlers opinions are of this guy. He looks like he's finally got some confidence in the pocket. What I'm wondering, and I suppose we won't know for sure until after the season, is if the career backup will stay in NE, or try to find a starting spot elsewhere next season? I have Cassel in a deep keeper league (we keep 10 from year to year), and up until last night I've been trying to move him. I'm having the worst year in my 10 year fantasy career, so I was trying to move him for a possible keeper. We start 2 QB's in the league, so good young QB's are worth their weight in gold. Do you think he'll be starting somewhere next year, or be content backing up Brady? Sound off huddlers!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 just remember he has some pretty good wr's to throw too right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 I think he is a backup QB. He barely made the team in the pre-season. He is having a nice little run here, but I don't know that he is worth investing in as a starting QB at this point in his career. Then again, the Vikings are using Gus Freakin Frerotte as their starting QB, so I obviously have higher standards than some professional teams do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Do you think he'll be starting somewhere next year, or be content backing up Brady? Sound off huddlers!!! What makes you think Brady will be ready to play next year? he just started his rehab, about 2-monhts behind schedule. I bet NE does everything they can to keep him around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csrulz16 Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Cassel will be a career backup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Stanky Posted November 14, 2008 Author Share Posted November 14, 2008 (edited) What makes you think Brady will be ready to play next year? he just started his rehab, about 2-monhts behind schedule. I bet NE does everything they can to keep him around. That thought had crossed my mind, but it really comes down to what Cassel wants to do. If he wants a chance to start somewhere I don't think NE would have a chance at resigning him regardless of how much money they throw at him. Like I stated before, it really depends on if Cassel is content with being a backup. Edited November 14, 2008 by Capt. Stanky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 From a rather pragmatic standpoint, being a back up QB in the NFL is not a bad gig at all. Compared to basically anyone but other pro ball players, movie stars, and CEOs, it's pretty nice jack. Meanwhile, you don't take the beating. Now, of course, most of these guys are out there because they're also very driven people and want to prove themselves on the highest stage. Most, that is. If there's a guy who may not need to be the man, it could be a guy who rode the pine his entire college and most of his pro career. He might be completely cool with going back to holding a clipboard next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriots Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 If he goes somewhere else is is not very good than he could be out of football in a few years. He could stick around as the backup in NE and make a nice career for himself. He is going to have to weigh the risk reward, but if he really wanted to be a starter don't you think he would left USC and went somewhere else? He could just be a product of the system right now. Although I like the way he runs. And he seems like he really wants to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muggsy Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 the NFL minimum for a 3 year vet is $510,000, N.E. will probably have to throw him at least double that to stick around, I'd take a mil plus to hold a clipboard and not get hit..... i'm just sayin' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Stanky Posted November 14, 2008 Author Share Posted November 14, 2008 All valid points guys. I guess I'm just wondering if he's worth hanging onto in a deep keeper league, or if I should try and move him to the highest bidder this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Pimp Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 All valid points guys. I guess I'm just wondering if he's worth hanging onto in a deep keeper league, or if I should try and move him to the highest bidder this season. I'd move him to the highest bidder if you can get someone decent in return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muggsy Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 I'd move him to the highest bidder if you can get someone decent in return. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msaint Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 If he finishes strong and the Pats don't franchise him (depending on Brady's rehab) I could see some team like DET, SF even OAK taking a chance...on the next Scott Mitchell. That's not a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missoula Griz Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 New England drafted a QB in the third round this year, Kevin Oconnell from San Diego State. Cassell will be gone next year. A team like the Rams will try to make a starter out of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czarina Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Are you guys kidding me? Cassel would be STUPID to come back to the Pats. I'm sure they'd love to have him stick around but IMO, it's not going to happen. He's not the next Brady, but is he as good as what SF, Detroit and Minnesota have right now? There are teams that need QBs and he's making the most of his opportunity right now. They'd have to pay him ~$10 million if they franchised him. I highly doubt the team wants to spend that type of money on a backup player. Average backup QB salary is probably $2mill or less. You don't think some other team will offer him a better chance than that? Matt Shaub got the Houston gig without doing more than Cassel has done this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackass Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Are you guys kidding me? Cassel would be STUPID to come back to the Pats. I'm sure they'd love to have him stick around but IMO, it's not going to happen. He's not the next Brady, but is he as good as what SF, Detroit and Minnesota have right now? There are teams that need QBs and he's making the most of his opportunity right now. They'd have to pay him ~$10 million if they franchised him. I highly doubt the team wants to spend that type of money on a backup player. Average backup QB salary is probably $2mill or less. You don't think some other team will offer him a better chance than that? Matt Shaub got the Houston gig without doing more than Cassel has done this year. i dunno. maybe. Cassell's been playing pretty well, but he has limitations that i saw in some of his throws last night. There may be a couple teams willing to bring him in to compete for the starting gig but i doubt anyone hands him the job. After all, he's playing in a Belichek's system and also has one of the best receiving groups in the league. Schaub had an impressive pedigree coming out of college (yes i know 6th round picks can become all-pros too), and impressed whenever he had an opportunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 I think there are a lot of teams Cassel could start for. That throw to Moss to tie the game was perfect... absolutely perfect. On the run, and he drilled it where only Moss could touch the ball. He's no Brady, but that is an unfair comparison. His deep ball isn't real good, but he takes what the D gives him and he can hurt you if he tucks and runs. He could opt to be a comfy clipboard holder, but I think he would prefer to be a starter, obviously purely guess work on my part. Minny, SF, Miami, Chicago, Oakland, St Loius, Detroit and Seattle are just a few of the teams I could see wanting to sign Cassel. His recievers do make him look better than he is, but he's still pretty decent. He did what he had to do in the second half. His numbers did get inflated when the Jets defense went conservative, bit still.... he put up some gaudy numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rattsass Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 If I was a Cassell owner I would get what I can for him RIGHT NOW while his value is high. Probably a downward slope from here and beyond. He might end up with another team next year, but he will likely look a lot different than he does in this system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 career backup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishFreak Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 I think Cassel is more a product now of good coaching and a system he's getting comfortable with. He is a solid scrambler and short passer but can't throw a deep ball with accuracy to save his life. No wonder Moss looks so disinterested. Even when he gets open deep or has a jump ball opportunity Cassel flings a duck way off. He looks like a career back-up to me some sorry team will pay too much money for thinking he's starting material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 He could just be a product of the system right now. I think Cassel is more a product now of good coaching and a system he's getting comfortable with. And there you have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egret Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 If he finishes strong and the Pats don't franchise him (depending on Brady's rehab) I could see some team like DET, SF even OAK taking a chance...on the next Scott Mitchell. That's not a good thing. There is no reason to kick the Lions while they're down. No reason at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pig devilz Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 (edited) Are you guys kidding me? Cassel would be STUPID to come back to the Pats. I'm sure they'd love to have him stick around but IMO, it's not going to happen. He's not the next Brady, but is he as good as what SF, Detroit and Minnesota have right now? There are teams that need QBs and he's making the most of his opportunity right now. They'd have to pay him ~$10 million if they franchised him. I highly doubt the team wants to spend that type of money on a backup player. Average backup QB salary is probably $2mill or less. You don't think some other team will offer him a better chance than that? Matt Shaub got the Houston gig without doing more than Cassel has done this year. wow!...i had to get t post 15 in this thread before somebody got it right. he's an un(?) restricted FA....his job is to play QB, not hold a clipboard. he's not a wuss....you think he'd take 2 mil to sit or 4 or 5+ mil to do what he really wants to do? start. second point....we talk about him as though he had a starting college career. he didn't. the guy has started 9 games. 9 games! he's pretty damn good for 9 games. and watching every game he has started, he has matured, learned and developed very quickly. his reads, pocket presence, poise have all improved greatly since game 2 or 1 of the season. he's coming off the best game, and did things lastnight that Brady never did, but I'm not annointing him the next Brady, or Montana at all....let's see what he does the rest of the year. the guy is big, tough and is a great listener and learner.....BB would not have put him in the position he is in if he didn't think he could succeed. he carried the team lastnight and they are 100% behind him now. with what he has shown so far, he could be a starter on a bunch of NFL teams next year. Edited November 15, 2008 by pig devilz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msaint Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 career backup. quite a limb you're out on, loaf. since that's clearly what he's been all his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpholmes Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 If Matt Schaub was pursued as a starting QB after 161 pass attempts with the Falcons, there is no doubt in my mind a team will try to make Cassel their starter next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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