MVP Race

[muck]

Presuming the MVP is on a team in the playoffs, plays QB or RB and is in the top 10 in 'yards' for their position ... then here are your candidates:

 

NAME -- YDS PASS / TD / INT / RATING

Kurt Warner -- 4,320 / 26 / 13 / 95.5

Jay Cutler -- 4,210 / 24 / 16 / 87.0

Peyton Manning - 3,907 / 26 / 12 / 93.8

Philip Rivers -- 3,802 / 32 / 11 / 104.0

Matt Cassell -- 3,615 / 21 / 11 / 89.1

Chad Pennington -- 3,453 / 17 / 7 / 96.4

 

NAME -- YDS RUSH / YDS REC / TOTAL TD

Adrian Peterson -- 1,657 / 125 / 9

Michael Turner -- 1,491 / 41 / 16

DeAngelo Williams -- 1,337 / 121 / 20

Thomas Jones -- 1,289 / 206 / 15

Chris Johnson -- 1,228 / 260 / 10

Matt Forte -- 1,115 / 424 / 11

Brandon Jacobs - 1,089 / 36 / 15

 

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No clear front-runner ... but, in terms of VALUE to their team, I'd have to go with either Kurt Warner (even after today), Peyton Manning, Chad Pennington or Michael Turner ... because there is NO way their teams are sniffing the playoffs without them.

[Roller Coasters]

No way Warner can even be considered anymore after the debacle in New England.

[cdrudge]

Warner has the stats to put him in the discussion, but I think he's the most valuable. Put in a few other QBs with Boldin and Fitzgerald and you'd have similar numbers. I also don't like most of the RBs. Chris Johnson, DeAngelo Williams, Peterson all have good resumes for the season. But I don't think any one of them has the stellar statistics that make them MVP of the league. Maybe of their team, but not of the league. Plus, all three of them have more then serviceable backups.

 

I voted for Manning. Homerism aside, I think that without him the Colts would go from one of the best teams in the league to one of the worst. Numerous games the Colts were down going into the 4th, sometimes by multiple TDs and under his direction ended up winning. I think he means the most to his team and the league on the field.

 

However, I think Matt Ryan gets at least honorable mention. He isn't the MVP for his on field performance....ROY honors should go to him for that, but I think he is the MVP for what presence means for a franchise and a city.

[millerx]

You left someone off the list that should be in consideration.

 

MATT RYAN

 

I don't know of anyone MORE VALUABLE to their them than him. He should be in the discussion. Especially if the Falcons wind up with the #2 seed witha bye in the first round of the playoffs!

 

ETA: I now see cdrudge got to it before me, and he should get more than a mention...

Edited December 22, 2008 by millerx

[Duchess Jack]

Ryan definately needs to be in the discussion. He's definately the OROY in my opinion.

 

I like Pennington and a guy at work just mentioned Cassell. He's been fantastic.

[pig devilz]

whoever it is, it will be debatable.

i think we still need next weeks game to decide, no clear winner yet like last year.

 

Manning, Cassel, D Williams....

[Easy n Dirty]

On last week's Inside the NFL, Phil Simms picked Roethlisberger, and I've seen him get some mention in other discussions of MVP as well. I don't get it, but he probabbly at least belongs in the poll.

 

I voted for Peyton myself.

[tazinib1]

I voted for Michael Turner. As much as I think the Falcons are no-where without Ryan, Turner's production on the field has allowed him to be successful.

[Caveman_Nick]

No Steelers in the poll makes it an invalid poll IMO. There probably should be a Raven on the list as well. I have not watched the Ravens much, so I am not sure who is really standing out on their defense.

 

There is no clear cut MVP this year, which makes it fun, but also means there will be lots of whining.

 

I think the rookies are all out of the mix. Doubtful you will see a rookie MVP.

 

P Manning, E Manning, M Cassel, D Williams, A Haynesworth, B Roethlisberger, C Pennington are the most likely candidates IMO.

 

EDIT: Of that list I voted for D Williams.

Edited December 22, 2008 by Caveman_Nick

[Bier Meister]

for me, the biggest impact players have been:

ryan

cassell

cutler

warner

AP

 

edit: i am very high on d. williams , but get the feeling that the team could have excelled with stewart in his absence

Edited December 22, 2008 by Bier Meister

[Pope Flick]

I voted for Michael Turner. As much as I think the Falcons are no-where without Ryan, Turner's production on the field has allowed him to be successful.

 

 

Hater.

[The Irish Doggy]

I'd go Manning. I think we are just used to how amazing he is. Hes like Montana and Elway.

 

My second pick would be Peterson because I believe the Vikes are nowhere without him.

 

I like Turner, but I think a lot of other things happened right for Atlanta to be where they are.

[Vet]

There is no clear cut MVP this year, which makes it fun, but also means there will be lots of whining.

 

EDIT: Of that list I voted for D Williams.

 

I agree, no clear cut winner this year.

 

I also voted for Williams. The guy literally carried his team the second half of the season to a division title and almost the #1 seed (I think he did all he could last night with 4 TDs). Manning has carried the Colts on an incredible streak as well, so I think it's between him and Williams. I'd like to see Williams get it, but I'm biased because he's on my fantasy team. I think either one could win it, and both deserve it.

 

I thought last night was kind of telling. I had thought that Williams was more a product of the OL as opposed to individual talent. I thought that because Jonathan Stewart had also had success running the ball this year. But last night, the gap between Williams and Stewart was obvious. Against a very good defense, Williams looked like the quickest player on the field, while Stewart looked rather pedestrian. I realize Stewart got his bell rung early, and that probably had a lot to do with it, but even before Stewart took that hit, Williams' superior talent was evident.

 

I'd like to see the guy get the MVP award this year. We'll see.

[Azazello1313]

I don't think he's the NFL MVP, but without question deangelo williams wins the fantasy football MVP award this year.

 

I think I'd have to give the NFL MVP to peyton again. no player means nearly as much to his team IMO. he started slow this year, but has gotten it rounded into vintage peyton form, as anyone who watched him against the jags last week knows full well.

[Sgt Ryan]

Manning gets my vote.

 

At 3-4, The Colts were without a pulse. Since then Manning has guided his team to 8 straight wins, without Addai for most of that span, and Harrison and D Clark also missed time, but Manning continues to get it done. Now Indy is a legit SB contender and a team everyone wants to avoid in the playoffs and Addai still isnt healthy, nor is Marvin Harrison.

[muck]

For the record, I voted for Turner (barely) over PManning. Without his production, Ryan would have been toast...but, because they have a balanced attack, Ryan has been given time to play at a solid level.

 

The reason that Matt Ryan isn't on the list is because his passing yardage isn't even in the top 10 in the league ... hard to think that he'll finish in the top 5-10 for the real award given out by the real voters.

 

NOTE: Warner was 3rd and Pennington was 4th.

[CaptainHook]

If the fact that Brady goes down and Cassel steps in and wins 10 (maybe 11) games doesn't prove that Bill is the best coach with the best system, nothing will. Brady excels in that system because he has above average talent and work ethic. Cassel would be schlub on any other team in the league. No way he should even sniff MVP. The Pats are amazing, but it's coaching. They have proven that no player on their team is irreplaceable. That lessens all of the Patriots player's "value" in my opinion.

[WaterMan]

Some of these people are no where near their best yet they are being called MVPs. Strange.

[CaptainHook]

Some of these people are no where near their best yet they are being called MVPs. Strange.

You're just mad that "Vick" or "Moss" wasn't an option. . .

[tazinib1]

If the fact that Brady goes down and Cassel steps in and wins 10 (maybe 11) games doesn't prove that Bill is the best coach with the best system, nothing will. Brady excels in that system because he has above average talent and work ethic. Cassel would be schlub on any other team in the league. No way he should even sniff MVP. The Pats are amazing, but it's coaching. They have proven that no player on their team is irreplaceable. That lessens all of the Patriots player's "value" in my opinion.

 

As much as I hate to admit it, I agree 100%.

[Bill Swerski]

I think the rookies are all out of the mix. Doubtful you will see a rookie MVP.

 

I agree. Wouldn't that be unprecedented... at least in this era?

 

I think that it comes down to Peyton vs. DeAngelo Williams. Peyton was obviously more crucial to his team's success this year and the committee is biased towards QBs to begin with, but he's lacking in typical MVP numbers and struggled earlier in the season. Williams, on the other hand, has legitimate MVP numbers. It'll be interesting to see which way it goes.

 

Warner has been sliding back to mediocrity over the past month and I think took himself out of it in Foxboro yesterday. Pennington is a somewhat-legit candidate, but doesn't have anywhere near the numbers. Thomas Jones is in Williams' shadow, and Peterson and Turner don't have the eye-popping TD numbers.

 

DeMarcus Ware is an interesting case, being close to the single-season sack record. But defensive players typically get the shaft. James Harrison has had an outstanding year, but not an LT-like one. The Titans have been fine when Haynesworth has been out, so he's probably out of the running as well.

[Randall]

If the fact that Brady goes down and Cassel steps in and wins 10 (maybe 11) games doesn't prove that Bill is the best coach with the best system, nothing will. Brady excels in that system because he has above average talent and work ethic. Cassel would be schlub on any other team in the league. No way he should even sniff MVP. The Pats are amazing, but it's coaching. They have proven that no player on their team is irreplaceable. That lessens all of the Patriots player's "value" in my opinion.

 

 

I wouldn't go quite that far. I wouldn't say top 10 either though.

[tazinib1]

I agree. Wouldn't that be unprecedented... at least in this era?

 

I think that it comes down to Peyton vs. DeAngelo Williams. Peyton was obviously more crucial to his team's success this year and the committee is biased towards QBs to begin with, but he's lacking in typical MVP numbers and struggled earlier in the season. Williams, on the other hand, has legitimate MVP numbers. It'll be interesting to see which way it goes.

 

Warner has been sliding back to mediocrity over the past month and I think took himself out of it in Foxboro yesterday. Pennington is a somewhat-legit candidate, but doesn't have anywhere near the numbers. Thomas Jones is in Williams' shadow, and Peterson and Turner don't have the eye-popping TD numbers.

 

DeMarcus Ware is an interesting case, being close to the single-season sack record. But defensive players typically get the shaft. James Harrison has had an outstanding year, but not an LT-like one. The Titans have been fine when Haynesworth has been out, so he's probably out of the running as well.

 

Turner has 16 TD's and is 100something yards behind AP for the rushing title. Add that to the Falcons reversing there fortunes of last year and I think he is a very strong candidate. I'm not a D-Will fan...for obvious reasons

[Bill Swerski]

Turner has 16 TD's and is 100something yards behind AP for the rushing title. Add that to the Falcons reversing there fortunes of last year and I think he is a very strong candidate.

 

He is. But I have a difficult time seeing a RB with less than 1,800 rushing yds or 20 TDs getting the MVP... especially when another back has reached the 20 TD threshold. But who knows... this will be the most interesting MVP selection in a long time.

[tazinib1]

He is. But I have a difficult time seeing a RB with less than 1,800 rushing yds or 20 TDs getting the MVP... especially when another back has reached the 20 TD threshold. But who knows... this will be the most interesting MVP selection in a long time.

 

I liken it to a MLB pitcher with 16 wins and a MLB best ERA and SO's, beating a 20 game winner for the Cy Young. Its happened before. But yes, this will be a very interesting MVP discussion, no matter who does/who doesn't win it.