kingfish247 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=3827402 Money excerpt... That wasn't the only time Harrison drew looks from law enforcement. On the evening of Feb. 10, 2005, three nights before the Pro Bowl, he and two men were walking along a row of stores at the Hilton Hawaiian Village hotel in Honolulu. According to a police report—and a witness—Harrison was talking on his cell when a group of teenage fans asked for his autograph. Harrison declined, and when the fans kept pestering him, he and his friends turned on them. The Pro Bowler took a swing at one fan, then grabbed him by the throat and put an arm around his neck. After more scuffling, Harrison and his friends ran off, leaving one of the teenagers beaten. "I was walking about three feet behind these kids," the witness told The Magazine. "Harrison and his friends acted like real punks." So when a guy like Harrison comes up for HOF consideration, I don't want to hear about Moss fake mooning Lambeau fans or bumping into a traffic officer or admitting to a little toke now and then. Although I guess Harrison 'never takes a play off' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=3827402" target="_blank">http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=3827402</a> Money excerpt... So when a guy like Harrison comes up for HOF consideration, I don't want to hear about Moss fake mooning Lambeau fans or bumping into a traffic officer or admitting to a little toke now and then. Although I guess Harrison 'never takes a play off' As far as I'm concerned, that entire story is speculation. Were there charges brought? Its ridiculous to report a story like that. However, I do think that Marvin has a side none of have seen. He is the consummate professional on the field, but it seems that its possible he has a dark side off it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=3827402" target="_blank">http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=3827402</a> Money excerpt... So when a guy like Harrison comes up for HOF consideration, I don't want to hear about Moss fake mooning Lambeau fans or bumping into a traffic officer or admitting to a little toke now and then. Although I guess Harrison 'never takes a play off' You don't? Because Harrison does things that aren't kosher we should shut up about Moss pushing a meter maid down the street with car? It's called assault, not bumping. I expect players to behave better than this. That article has a lot of speculation. It says "To be fair, Harrison owes fans and teammates nothing beyond his best efforts on the field. But the more he leaves blank, the more we fill in." So you guys just guess when you don't get what you want? Nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Trick Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 The article is pure speculation, it at least opens your eyes that Marvin could have a dark side to him. Although basing the article off a couple felon drug users is a pretty weak stance. Marvin seems to be standoffish, but he's done everything asked of him at his job up to this point without any problems. He wants privacy and there is no reason not to give it to him. He sounds like a man trying to better his neighborhood if you ask me. Comparing him to Moss, why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 As far as I'm concerned, that entire story is speculation. Were there charges brought? Its ridiculous to report a story like that. However, I do think that Marvin has a side none of have seen. He is the consummate professional on the field, but it seems that its possible he has a dark side off it. Meh, the way he acted walking off the field after the record breaking TD Peyton threw him a few years ago kinda turned me off on Marvin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip_Side Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Meh, the way he acted walking off the field after the record breaking TD Peyton threw him a few years ago kinda turned me off on Marvin. What happened, I forgot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 You don't? Because Harrison does things that aren't kosher we should shut up about Moss pushing a meter maid down the street with car? It's called assault, not bumping. +1 I don't think using the bumper of your car means you can just automatically call it "bumping". Moss may have a lot of talent but he's a punk regardless of what Harrison is rumored to have done in Hawaii. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Pimp Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 +1I don't think using the bumper of your car means you can just automatically call it "bumping". Moss may have a lot of talent but he's a punk regardless of what Harrison is rumored to have done in Hawaii AND Philly. Fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 So when a guy like Harrison comes up for HOF consideration, I don't want to hear about Moss fake mooning Lambeau fans or bumping into a traffic officer or admitting to a little toke now and then. Although I guess Harrison 'never takes a play off' I like this thread. It shows how much of a superstar Randy Moss is. Whenever a WR does something that makes the news, it gets compared to Randy Moss. The NFL knows it can't really do much about how Randy Moss lives his life when he is the best WR in said organization. It's hard for me to believe Harrison could actually hold a gun up and shoot someone. Have you seen the twigs he has as arms? It's easy to not take plays off when you hit the ground before you catch the ball. Not everyone gets to be one of the fastest in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 (edited) Meh, the way he acted walking off the field after the record breaking TD Peyton threw him a few years ago kinda turned me off on Marvin. Yeah - he may or may not have "thug tendencies" (hey he's from Philly after all) and he's mostly class on the field, but he can be a real butthead sometimes. That's one example. I also heard - I admit I don't have "proof" offhand but seemed reliable - he just blew off some charity even in Philly a couple years ago that he agreed to. Who knows... Edited January 16, 2009 by BeeR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 What happened, I forgot? I think it was the all time td record for QB/WR combo, don't quote me on that though. Caught the record breaking TD in the corner and Peyton ran in to celebrate and Marvin just kinda handed him the ball and blew him off. You had to see it to understand... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 I like this thread. It shows how much of a superstar Randy Moss is. Whenever a WR does something that makes the news, it gets compared to Randy Moss. kingfish compared them both as asses. It was'nt a compliment unless I read it wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 I wonder how many WR threads also contain comparisions to Randy Moss? 85%? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 I think it was the all time td record for QB/WR combo, don't quote me on that though. Caught the record breaking TD in the corner and Peyton ran in to celebrate and Marvin just kinda handed him the ball and blew him off. You had to see it to understand... close - Manning went up to him and tried to sort of share in the moment by saying something like "here you keep it" (meaning the ball) and Harrison didn't say anything or even scarcely look at him....Manning just went "uh OK we'll share it." Nothing from Harrison, not even a smile. d***head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdrudge Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 "I was walking about three feet behind these kids," the witness told The Magazine. "Harrison and his friends acted like real punks." I know I'm skeptical of any story that ends like this. This "witness" was 3 feet behind these kids and did nothing? I know if I saw an adult male that was beating up a couple of kids 3 feet in front of me I probably would do something more then make a anonymous statement to a sports magazine several years after the fact. So when a guy like Harrison comes up for HOF consideration, I don't want to hear about Moss fake mooning Lambeau fans or bumping into a traffic officer or admitting to a little toke now and then.I think the majority of the consideration for any player going into the HOF should be what they did on the field and for their team or teams. Being a perfect choir boy doesn't get you into the HOF nor does having some legal trouble necessarily keep you out. Commit a Michael Vick crime and you aren't getting into the HOF. Be a habitual thug like Pacman Jones and you aren't getting into the HOF. Having a temper and a few scuffles? I don't think that keeps you out. So what if Harrison has had some off field issues that have come to light. So he's not the choir boy many people thought he was. Whoopdedo. The shooting aside, I would be surprised if there weren't quite a few other similar situations with other star athletes. Fans sometimes don't know when to quit or take no for an answer. And everyone has a bad day and done things that they regret and wish they could take back. The instance in Honolulu sounds awfully one sided and not even all the details at that. The other incident in the article he went after the Jets ball boy...we've never seen a player get angry with opposing team personnel, have we. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xMRogers Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Putting aside a few of the back and forths, not sure I understand what bringing the HOF in this is about - Moss and Harrison are both going to the HOF, and some of the crap may come up but will be put in the background for the most part. Not sure there's an NFL player right now that is potential HOF but could possibly not make it due to off-the-field or other issues like the bs going on in baseball. If this is just to say "Harrison, everyones supposed good guy, has some bad qualities" - ok, yea, think that's been somewhat proven and now most people are just pretty neutral on him. He's still an HOF receiver as is Moss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Putting aside a few of the back and forths, not sure I understand what bringing the HOF in this is about - Moss and Harrison are both going to the HOF, and some of the crap may come up but will be put in the background for the most part. Some don't think it should be, that's why it was brought up. Some feel on the field performance isn't the only thing that should matter. You could make a case either way..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Some don't think it should be, that's why it was brought up. Some feel on the field performance isn't the only thing that should matter. You could make a case either way..... They are paid to catch a football not preach morals on Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesVikes Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 They don't put thugs in the HOF. Oh wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 close - Manning went up to him and tried to sort of share in the moment by saying something like "here you keep it" (meaning the ball) and Harrison didn't say anything or even scarcely look at him....Manning just went "uh OK we'll share it." Nothing from Harrison, not even a smile. d***head. exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 you guys are hilarious. The Pro Bowl incident is highly debated as to what happened. As is this incident lately with the gun. Either Marvin is the luckiest human on earth, and the police refuse to do anything with plenty of witnesses, or maybe the witness accounts aren't very credible... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 you guys are hilarious. The Pro Bowl incident is highly debated as to what happened. As is this incident lately with the gun. Either Marvin is the luckiest human on earth, and the police refuse to do anything with plenty of witnesses, or maybe the witness accounts aren't very credible... How often has Manning, Drew Brees, Brain Dawkins or Torry Holt been accused of two different violent acts? Just saying if there's smoke... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 The Pro Bowl incident was supposedly his bodyguards, not him. It's gotten worse as the years have gone on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 He might be forced to play for less money if this is true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 (edited) Dixon wasn't much of a witness either. Cops charged him with lying to the police after he gave bogus accounts of what happened. He had good cause to keep police in the dark: He was on parole for a drug conviction. Only after police told him further ballistics tests proved that five bullets fired that night exactly matched Harrison's gun did Dixon settle on one version. According to a police source, he told detectives the story that put the gun in Harrison's hand. (Dixon later sued Harrison for $100,000 in damages.) Edited January 18, 2009 by CaptainHook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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