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Recruiting rankings are the most worthless pieces of information in sport.

 

 

Sam Bradford was a 3 star player. So I completely agree with this.

I think if you go back and look at it, you'll find the schools that load up on the 4 and 5 stars recruits are the ones who compete for all the marbles, so they're not worthless. It is obviously an inexact science and guys like Bradford over produce while some 5 star guys will disappoint. However, rare is the school that competes year in and year out despite having few top recruits.

 

Pointing out guys like Bradford is like gamblers talking about their wins. I've met a bunch of guys who gamble and either I've only met the ones who always win, or I'm only getting half the story.

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Very happy with OSU 2009 class. I can't wait to see Dorian Bell full time in Scarlet and Gray.

 

Berry and James Jackson add the speed we need and love to see local boy Storm Klein in the Scarlet and Gray.

 

I was disappointed in losing Marlon Brown, however felt it was a long shot anyway and I breathed a sigh of relieve when Marcus Hall's LOI was signed sealed and in the hands of OSU coaching staff.

 

GO BUCKS.

 

Michigan's class looks pretty good as well. Rich Rod will have them back soon. I don't know if that's good or bad. I lean toward good for the Big Ten and dare I say "THE GAME"

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I think if you go back and look at it, you'll find the schools that load up on the 4 and 5 stars recruits are the ones who compete for all the marbles, so they're not worthless. It is obviously an inexact science and guys like Bradford over produce while some 5 star guys will disappoint. However, rare is the school that competes year in and year out despite having few top recruits.

 

Pointing out guys like Bradford is like gamblers talking about their wins. I've met a bunch of guys who gamble and either I've only met the ones who always win, or I'm only getting half the story.

 

spot on.

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And what should be surprising but actually isn't is teams like Florida losing a couple players. Their problem? Depth. Most top recruits want a chance to play NOW, and with Florida's depth that just ain't gonna happen. Well, for the most part....

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And what should be surprising but actually isn't is teams like Florida losing a couple players. Their problem? Depth. Most top recruits want a chance to play NOW, and with Florida's depth that just ain't gonna happen. Well, for the most part....

 

 

I think he'll get some playing time as a freshman:

 

Andre Debose

Wide Receiver

5-11 • 176 • Freshman, H.S.

Sanford • SeminoleÂ

 

PRIOR TO FLORIDA: Led Sanford to the Class 6A title over Miami-Northwestern by catching the game-winning touchdown in the final seconds....Accumulated more than 2,000 yards at wide receiver, running back and quarterback...Rushed for 1,332 yards on 117 carries and scored 12 touchdowns...As a part-time quarterback, he completed 25 of 44 pass attempts for 353 yards and four touchdowns...Returned 10 punts for 236 yards and 14 kicks for 497 yards...Caught 27 passes for 664 yards and six touchdowns...Ranked No. 30 nationally in the ESPN 150....Played in ESPN/Under Armour All-Star Game, catching a 90-yard TD pass... Named First-Team 2008 EA Sports All-America Team...Named to the Orlando Sentinel's All-Southern Team...Ranked sixth out of 120 top recruits by Mobile's Press Register Super Southeast... Ranked second as a five-star wide receiver and the top receiver after a catch by Rivals.com...Finished his junior season with 712 yards and 11 touchdowns rushing; 204 yards and one touchdown passing; and had 18 catches for 270 yards receiving... State track champion as a member of Sanford Seminole Track & Field team... Posted four personal bests during the 2008 season: 10.68 in the 100-meter dash, 22.21 in the 200-meter dash, a 23’ 2.5†long jump, and a triple jump length of 44’ 7.25†... Coached by Mike Cullison... Selected Florida over Florida State, Georgia, LSU, Miami and Southern Cal.

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UT had a nice little recruiting effort. 2009 Texas football recruiting class

 

 

 

Tariq Allen LB Irving, Texas (MacArthur)

Thomas Ashcraft OL Cedar Hill, Texas (Cedar Hill)

Eryon Barnett DB Euless, Texas (Trinity)

Marcus Davis DB League City, Texas (Clear Creek)

Garrett Gilbert QB Austin, Texas (Lake Travis)

Trey Graham TE Waco, Texas (Midway)

Calvin Howell DL San Antonio, Texas (Warren)

Derek Johnson DL Hoxie, Ark. (Hoxie)

Dominique Jones DL Kilgore, Texas (Kilgore)

Paden Kelley OL Austin, Texas (Lake Travis)

Kyle Kriegel DL Elysian Fields, Texas (Elysian Fields)

Barrett Matthews TE Galena Park, Texas (North Shore)

Tevin Mims DL Round Rock, Texas (Stony Point)

Patrick Nkwopara LB Grand Prairie, Texas (South Grand Prairie)

Alex Okafor DL Pflugerville, Texas (Pflugerville)

Garrett Porter OL Odessa, Texas (Permian)

Greg Timmons WR Aldine, Texas (Eisenhower)

Kenny Vaccaro DB Brownwood, Texas (Early)

Mason Walters OL Wolfforth, Texas (Frenship)

Chris Whaley RB Madisonville, Texas (Madisonville)

 

Garrett Gilbert is the real deal. Can't wait to see this kid get stronger and take the job from Chiles.

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http://recruiting.scout.com/2/836749.html

 

Just thought I'd update this a bit and throw in Scout's perspective. :D

 

25. USF

 

The USF Bulls have gotten a taste of the big time, and they're not anxious to give it up any time soon going after getting players they expect to make an impact right away. USF is bringing in eight junior college or postgrad players including five-star defensive end Jason Pierre-Paul and four-star defensive tackle Leslie Stirrups. It's not all about the older players though, as Tampa native Ryne Giddins is the No. 12 defensive end in the country by Scout, and is a landmark recruit of sorts for the Bulls. He's the first high school player that was heavily pursued by "the big three" of Florida, Florida State, and Miami, and chose USF. The Bulls have had more success on the field than two of the big three the last couple of years, and recruits are taking notice.

 

I'll add that they also landed two UA all-americans among 5 signees that were ranked top 25 nationally at their respective positions.

 

Making strides, baby!!!

 

:wacko: GO BULLS!!! :D

 

< excitement tempered with> Leavitt and his staff are out doing themselves each year on the recruiting trail. I've said this before and I'll say it again... they have a whole buncha talent and Leavitt has shown he can build a program, now let's see if they can actually coach them.

 

Not calling my shot here or anything, just looking at high end potential, but with both the Seminoles and Hurricanes on the schedule this coming season next year's recruiting class could be even better.

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UT had a nice little recruiting effort. 2009 Texas football recruiting class

 

 

 

Tariq Allen LB Irving, Texas (MacArthur)

Thomas Ashcraft OL Cedar Hill, Texas (Cedar Hill)

Eryon Barnett DB Euless, Texas (Trinity)

Marcus Davis DB League City, Texas (Clear Creek)

Garrett Gilbert QB Austin, Texas (Lake Travis)

Trey Graham TE Waco, Texas (Midway)

Calvin Howell DL San Antonio, Texas (Warren)

Derek Johnson DL Hoxie, Ark. (Hoxie)

Dominique Jones DL Kilgore, Texas (Kilgore)

Paden Kelley OL Austin, Texas (Lake Travis)

Kyle Kriegel DL Elysian Fields, Texas (Elysian Fields)

Barrett Matthews TE Galena Park, Texas (North Shore)

Tevin Mims DL Round Rock, Texas (Stony Point)

Patrick Nkwopara LB Grand Prairie, Texas (South Grand Prairie)

Alex Okafor DL Pflugerville, Texas (Pflugerville)

Garrett Porter OL Odessa, Texas (Permian)

Greg Timmons WR Aldine, Texas (Eisenhower)

Kenny Vaccaro DB Brownwood, Texas (Early)

Mason Walters OL Wolfforth, Texas (Frenship)

Chris Whaley RB Madisonville, Texas (Madisonville)

 

Garrett Gilbert is the real deal. Can't wait to see this kid get stronger and take the job from Chiles.

 

For the most part I like the class I just wish they would have gotten a real mulitdimensional running back. Whaley is a bruiser, but lacks that 2nd gear. Texas really hasn't had a star running back since Benson who was a real good college RB.

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For the most part I like the class I just wish they would have gotten a real mulitdimensional running back. Whaley is a bruiser, but lacks that 2nd gear. Texas really hasn't had a star running back since Benson who was a real good college RB.

I agree but there are some on the roster that I think will benefit from another year under their belt. Fozzie Whittaker will be healthier and does have some get-up.

 

And you don't think Jamaal Charles was a star? If that cat would have stayed for this past season... man.

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Nebraska's recruiting class (1st full one under coach Bo Pelini) was ranked 27th by rivals.com and a little lower on scouts. Something like 4th or 5th in the big 12, BUT as a guy who sat through the big hype machine of Callahan recruitment classes just to see players not develop into much, I think Bo has an idea of what he is doing. Looking for smart football players with winning attitudes and work ethic. QB Cody Green of Dayton, TX and running back Rex Burkhead of Plano, TX are probably their highest ranked recruits. I'm a little sour on recruiting ranks in general so I'm not too worried. ND has had high recruitment classes for years and we've all seen how bad the product on the field is.

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I agree but there are some on the roster that I think will benefit from another year under their belt. Fozzie Whittaker will be healthier and does have some get-up.

 

And you don't think Jamaal Charles was a star? If that cat would have stayed for this past season... man.

 

I'm not sure about Fozzie. Charles had the speed, but relied to much on it most of his career. It wasn't until his last year that he started running between the tackles.

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USAToday

A consensus of recruiting services ranks these schools with the best signing classes:

 

1. LSU

2. Alabama

3. Southern California

4. Ohio State

5. Texas

6. Georgia

7. North Carolina

8. Florida

9. Florida State

10. Michigan

 

By Scouts Inc.

ESPN.com

Archive

In a day that saw plenty of big surprises, LSU made sure there wasn't an upset at the top of the Scouts Inc. class rankings. Les Miles and the Tigers signed 10 ESPNU 150 prospects, including several players ranked at the top of their position.

 

That's not to say a few teams didn't try to make it interesting. Alabama made a late run with seven ESPNU 150 players, including three players who were No. 1 at their positions. It was that kind of day for the SEC, which features four teams in the top 6 and 10 teams in the Top 25.

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/...tory?id=3885582

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http://recruiting.scout.com/2/836749.html

 

Just thought I'd update this a bit and throw in Scout's perspective. :D

 

25. USF

 

The USF Bulls have gotten a taste of the big time, and they're not anxious to give it up any time soon going after getting players they expect to make an impact right away. USF is bringing in eight junior college or postgrad players including five-star defensive end Jason Pierre-Paul and four-star defensive tackle Leslie Stirrups. It's not all about the older players though, as Tampa native Ryne Giddins is the No. 12 defensive end in the country by Scout, and is a landmark recruit of sorts for the Bulls. He's the first high school player that was heavily pursued by "the big three" of Florida, Florida State, and Miami, and chose USF. The Bulls have had more success on the field than two of the big three the last couple of years, and recruits are taking notice.

 

I'll add that they also landed two UA all-americans among 5 signees that were ranked top 25 nationally at their respective positions.

 

Making strides, baby!!!

 

:wacko: GO BULLS!!! :D

 

< excitement tempered with> Leavitt and his staff are out doing themselves each year on the recruiting trail. I've said this before and I'll say it again... they have a whole buncha talent and Leavitt has shown he can build a program, now let's see if they can actually coach them.

 

Not calling my shot here or anything, just looking at high end potential, but with both the Seminoles and Hurricanes on the schedule this coming season next year's recruiting class could be even better.

 

Yeah, you still gotta get past the 'eers, bitsch. :D

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Recruiting rankings are the most worthless pieces of information in sport.

In college football recruiting 5 and 4 star players is much like a NFL team drafting 2 or 3 first rounders. Granted there's no guarantee a 1st rounder or a 4 or 5 star player coming out of HS will be more successful, but it does seem to increase those odds.

 

Here's a breakdown I found that shows the top 5 teams with the highest star rankings over the past 5 recruiting seasons. Some fairly nice success with the exception of Notre Dame.

 

Rivals:

 

1. USC - 3.99

2. Florida - 3.89

3. Ohio State - 3.75

4. LSU - 3.72

5. Texas - 3.70

 

 

Scout:

 

1. USC - 4.09

2. Florida - 3.89

3. Ohio State - 3.76

4. Texas - 3.75

5. Notre Dame - 3.71

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