j2v Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 News from the Scouting Combine... Adam Schefter of the NFL Network is reporting that Michael Crabtree has a stress fracture in his foot that will require surgery. He'll be out 10 weeks, which would not allow him a workout before the draft. This is the same surgery Jonathan Stewart had last year, but he had his after the combine. Not that Crabtree was supposed to be fast, but a good 40 time would have solidified him as a top five pick. Now, things get interesting... 2V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 They'll have to put screws in his foot? Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziachild007 Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Doesn't surprise me. He was hobbled pretty much all year, leaving multiple games for at least a few series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robash Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 geez, maybe he will go to a good team now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziachild007 Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 That combined with him measuring in at 6' 1-1/4" instead of 6 '3" doesnt help his draft stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Schefter said when examined they did a bone scan and said the fracture was recent. Maybe it was an injury that got worse from playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziachild007 Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Schefter said when examined they did a bone scan and said the fracture was recent. Maybe it was an injury that got worse from playing. Yeah, sorry thats what I meant. He played on it pretty much all year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 That combined with him measuring in at 6' 1-1/4" instead of 6 '3" doesnt help his draft stock. I doubt "losing" a whopping inch or so does much of anything to his draft stock. And I doubt this does either. It sucks, but you're still getting one hell of a WR, and it's not like he was likely to lead whatever team he goes to to the SB this year anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 I doubt "losing" a whopping inch or so does much of anything to his draft stock. And I doubt this does either. It sucks, but you're still getting one hell of a WR, and it's not like he was likely to lead whatever team he goes to to the SB this year anyway. well if he's not very fast and he's not very tall, it just seems like it's harder to justify him as a top 5 pick. still super-talented and probably a great pro, but in the top 5 you are looking for freaks. fitzgerald (6'3"), calvin johnson (6'5" and fast), andre johnson (big and fast). sure it's only an inch and 7/8 or whatever, but it does affect his stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawks21 Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Ouch. I think this kicks him out of the top five. Do the Seahawks take an O-Lineman now? I know people will think I'm crazy, but I'd still love to see the Seahawks trade down a few spots and take Beanie Wells. Our running game is still our biggest weakness, and we won't be good again until we have one. I wasn't sold on Wells for most of the season, but he really came on strong and looked very explosive for his size later in the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawks21 Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Crabtree wasn't going to run anyways. Only could have hurt his stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 (edited) I'm not sure if it was a recent interview or not but I saw Crabtree talking to the media last night on ESPN saying that he was about 90% healthy (recovering from what I think he said was an ankle sprain) and that he didn't want to risk anything by working out at the combine instead doing everything at his Pro Day. Now this! IMO, as some of you think as well, he falls in the draft now. Edited February 21, 2009 by irish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitzkek Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 I hope this kills his draft stock and he falls to the 21st pick!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budlitebrad Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 (edited) While Michael Crabtree’s stress fracture is undoubtedly a setback, it will not harm him greatly come draft time according to several talent evaluators. As all coaches and general managers repeatedly stress during their media sessions in Indianapolis, the combine and pre-draft workouts are just but one aspect of the process and the college game film is always at the core of an evaluation. Chiefs general manager Scott Pioli said the situation was unfortunate for Crabtree, but not devastating. “You got a bunch of tapes to watch guys on. From our standpoint we evaluate guys on how they play football and not just on how they run,” noted Pioli. “The combine’s great, but you watch tape on the player and that’s really your top priority.” Bears coach Lovie Smith echoed those sentiments when asked about Crabtree. “It’s not a grave injury or anything like that,” said Smith. “He’s a good football player and he’s got plenty of time to get well.” “I think everybody has a history. He has a history and his history’s pretty good. I think he’ll be alright.” I can't imagine him making it past Oakland @ 7, unless maybe Maclin puts up great numbers and jumps past him on some boards. Edited February 21, 2009 by budlitebrad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 I can't imagine him making it past Oakland @ 7, unless maybe Maclin puts up great numbers and jumps past him on some boards. I have Maclin ranked above Crabtree anyways. Yep...I said it...what! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziachild007 Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 well if he's not very fast and he's not very tall, it just seems like it's harder to justify him as a top 5 pick. still super-talented and probably a great pro, but in the top 5 you are looking for freaks. fitzgerald (6'3"), calvin johnson (6'5" and fast), andre johnson (big and fast). sure it's only an inch and 7/8 or whatever, but it does affect his stock. Exactly! I have Maclin ranked above Crabtree anyways. Yep...I said it...what! That's like pumping up Jonathan Stewart over Matt Forte. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robash Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 (edited) ESPN is reporting he will put off surgery to run the 40 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft09/news/story?id=3923924 the vid kind of contradicts the text though, so who knows. Edited February 22, 2009 by Robash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j2v Posted February 22, 2009 Author Share Posted February 22, 2009 The Combine wrap-up on NFL Network reported that Crabtree isn't in any pain and plans to run at his pro day and then have the surgery—pretty much what that ESPN story says. That decision, however, is not popular with Mayock, Casserly, et. al; they figured if you liked him you wouldn't like him any more or less based on a 40 time, and if you were concerned about his speed... well, there were enough teams who still liked him. If he delays the surgery until late March, that likely means he misses the first rookie minicamp. My guess is that, after a day to confer with some folks, he'll change his mind and have the surgery now. It works in his favor that guys like TO and Stewart have had this surgery and not had problems, and it's not as if his entire game is predicated on him running a 4.3. If nothing else, it gives Mooch and Gruden something to talk about between 40 yard dashes. 2V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 That's like pumping up Jonathan Stewart over Matt Forte. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Crabtree wasn't going to run anyways. Only could have hurt his stock. I hear that a lot and hate it. You're a competitor compete. Don't let your agent tell you what to do. I also question running full bore with a bone fracture. It could get worse. I would question his intelligence if he thinks that's a good idea. I'd rather see him get the surgery now. There is a lot of film of him beating defenders. The Combine wrap-up on NFL Network reported that Crabtree isn't in any pain and plans to run at his pro day and then have the surgery—pretty much what that ESPN story says. That decision, however, is not popular with Mayock, Casserly, et. al; they figured if you liked him you wouldn't like him any more or less based on a 40 time, and if you were concerned about his speed... well, there were enough teams who still liked him. If he delays the surgery until late March, that likely means he misses the first rookie minicamp. My guess is that, after a day to confer with some folks, he'll change his mind and have the surgery now. It works in his favor that guys like TO and Stewart have had this surgery and not had problems, and it's not as if his entire game is predicated on him running a 4.3. If nothing else, it gives Mooch and Gruden something to talk about between 40 yard dashes. 2V Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziachild007 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I hear that a lot and hate it. You're a competitor compete. Don't let your agent tell you what to do. But in this case its true. Teams are not going to like him more if he puts up a good 40 time. And if he runs he can either make it worse like you said or post a slower time than he would if he was 100%. For a player whose big knock is top speed, then he in fact could only make his stock drop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I doubt "losing" a whopping inch or so does much of anything to his draft stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wirehairman Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 This has Adrian Peterson written all over it. Crabtree is going to excel in the NFL despite concerns over his injury, and whichever team he falls to will be extremely fortunate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/02/24/crabtree-r...-40-for-scouts/ Combine Crabtree reconsidering running 40 for scouts Posted: Combine | NFL.com Staff | Tags: Michael Crabtree, NFL Combine Michael Crabtree is reconsidering running the 40-yard dash for NFL scouts, the Texas Tech WR told NFL Network during a phone interview. Crabtree told NFL Network that running the 40 is “a 50-50 deal,” and will re-evaluate whether or not he will work out for scouts at a time earlier than his personal pro day in Dallas on March 26. It was revealed on Saturday at the NFL Scouting Combine that Crabtree — considered the top receiver by many in this year’s draft class — had a stress fracture in his left foot that will require surgery. Crabtree then indicated that he would run a 40 for scouts, and then have surgery to repair the stress fracture. Rather than solidify his status as the top wide receiver in this year’s draft class, Crabtree came to the combine and measured in almost two inches shorter than his listed height of 6-foot-3, and then medical examinations revealed the stress fracture. I hope he doesn't run and just gets the surgery done sooner this way he has more time to heal up and provide fantasy owners and his own NFL team a more solid WR option sooner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 It's the bone outside him pinkie on his foot. It won't have as much stress as other bones in the foot but this is still probably ego. This is dumb. Scouts have film and can estimate 40 times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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