MR Hammock vs Swiss Cheezhead

[Mr Hammock]

http://forums.thehuddle.com/index.php?showtopic=285138 Edited April 24, 2009 by Mr Hammock

[Belushi]

Why do you see the Packers taking a RB at #83? They're pretty deep at the position with Grant, Jackson, and Winn. They're also pretty solid at WR, even with Driver getting older.

[Randall]

Why do you see the Packers taking a RB at #83? They're pretty deep at the position with Grant, Jackson, and Winn. They're also pretty solid at WR, even with Driver getting older.

 

 

And Lumpkin. In addition Moala isn't a nose tackle.

 

Green Bay needs 3-4 starters. He has them taking only 1 3-4 player.

[Mr Hammock]

Packers

9 DE/LB Brian Orakpo Texas

41 OT Philip Loadholt Oklahoma

73 DE/DT Fili Moala USC

83 RB Cedric Peerman Virginia

109 WR Johnny Knox Abilene Christian

 

Orakpo plays OLB and Fili Moala at DE.

 

Philip Loadholt shores up the O-line. Tauscher is coming off major knee surgery and Clifton has had knee problems too.

 

Cedric Peerman and Johnny Knox were best players available. Grants production declined last year and there are no proven RB's on the team. Knox brings elite speed to spread the defense and could be interesting in the slot. Maybe he even returns some.

[keggerz]

just a question but what % of your 1st round picks would you be happy with getting right? What is considered a good % for the experts when they do their mocks?

[Randall]

Packers

9 DE/LB Brian Orakpo Texas

41 OT Philip Loadholt Oklahoma

73 DE/DT Fili Moala USC

83 RB Cedric Peerman Virginia

109 WR Johnny Knox Abilene Christian

 

Orakpo plays OLB and Fili Moala at DE.

 

Philip Loadholt shores up the O-line. Tauscher is coming off major knee surgery and Clifton has had knee problems too.

 

Cedric Peerman and Johnny Knox were best players available. Grants production declined last year and there are no proven RB's on the team. Knox brings elite speed to spread the defense and could be interesting in the slot. Maybe he even returns some.

 

 

He's more a tampa 2 DT. Grant's problem was more his holdout/hamstring and bad o line play than bad play. They gave him a big contract and won't bail yet. I can't see TT going RB and WR in back to back rounds.

 

Nice effort though.

[Mr Hammock]

He's more a tampa 2 DT. Grant's problem was more his holdout/hamstring and bad o line play than bad play. They gave him a big contract and won't bail yet. I can't see TT going RB and WR in back to back rounds.

 

Nice effort though.

 

Are you saying that you believe Fili Moala could not play DE in the 3-4? If so then why? I will disagree, strongly.

 

Orakpo and Moala would upgrade many teams and they can play in any system.

 

If the first 4 rounds only address two defensive positions then what would be so wrong with that? I am not following your logic, especially when these two picks would greatly improve the Packers defense.

[tazinib1]

You have the Eagles taking Sintim? He's a perfect fit for a 3-4 but the Eagles run a 4-3. McKenzie is a perfect fit but I'm not so sure Sintim is.

[Pope Flick]

You don't know diddly about the Bears.

[Randall]

Are you saying that you believe Fili Moala could not play DE in the 3-4? If so then why? I will disagree, strongly.

 

Orakpo and Moala would upgrade many teams and they can play in any system.

 

If the first 4 rounds only address two defensive positions then what would be so wrong with that? I am not following your logic, especially when these two picks would greatly improve the Packers defense.

 

 

You want a DT to play 3-4 DE where he drops into coverage?

 

Orakpo is a good pick. 3-4 DE's are usually 6'5 300 pounds strong and athletic. Moala is one of the 3. Maybe in a year or two he could develop.

[Zooty]

You have the Eagles taking Sintim? He's a perfect fit for a 3-4 but the Eagles run a 4-3. McKenzie is a perfect fit but I'm not so sure Sintim is.

 

0-3 with his Eagles picks.

 

Won't take Moreno and they grab Cook at TE

[Swiss Cheezhead]

Just curious...why did you change the Steelers pick from Alphonso Smith to Darius Butler?

[Mr Hammock]

Just curious...why did you change the Steelers pick from Alphonso Smith to Darius Butler?

 

When are you going to post your mock in this thread?

[keggerz]

just a question but what % of your 1st round picks would you be happy with getting right? What is considered a good % for the experts when they do their mocks?

Hello

 

When are you going to post your mock in this thread?

http://forums.thehuddle.com/index.php?s=&a...t&p=2830015

[Mr Hammock]

Hello

 

 

http://forums.thehuddle.com/index.php?s=&a...t&p=2830015

 

 

My best mock was in 2004 when I got 11 picks perfectly correct and I hit 23 positions correctly, in the first round.

 

I am sure people have done this good at sometime or another, but I have never seen anyone do that well. Usually if you get 7 or 8 picks right and hit 15 positions correctly then you did pretty damn good.

 

This year, I think I could hit the first 10 straight. Although Tyson Jackson is starting to creep up on me.

[Ziachild007]

I dont think the Texans go LB, especially after signing June. I am thinking more along the lines of a CB.

 

I get that some fans are more in-tune with their teams than others. But fans can get attached to a certain player and I don't pit much value in that.

 

 

Mr Hammock's Four Round Mock

15 Texans CB Malcolm Jenkins Ohio St

 

 

[Mr Hammock]

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I am not allowed to change my mind?

 

They had Butler going there.

[tazinib1]

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I am not allowed to change my mind?

 

They had Butler going there.

 

I'm actually surprised you changed your mind. You've been towing a hard line lately....its actually kinda refreshing.

[Mr Hammock]

I'm actually surprised you changed your mind. You've been towing a hard line lately....its actually kinda refreshing.

 

I have changed my mind about a lot of picks over the past few weeks.

[kpholmes]

Raiders

7 WR Jeremy Maclin Missouri

40 DE Michael Johnson Georgia Tech

71 CB Jarius Byrd Oregon

126 OT Fenuki Tupou Oregon

 

If Mack is off the board in Round 2 and the Raiders do in fact take a WR in the first - Cable will draft Unger in the second. They have an immediete need at center and guard, and Unger will fill either.

The Raiders defensive line, while less than impressive - has too much money tied up in it for them to take a DE in the second imo - but who knows.

 

CB? Really? You know they just resigned their starting two corners right? And they have more glaring holes at safety and defensive tackle?

[Randall]

My best mock was in 2004 when I got 11 picks perfectly correct and I hit 23 positions correctly, in the first round.

 

I am sure people have done this good at sometime or another, but I have never seen anyone do that well. Usually if you get 7 or 8 picks right and hit 15 positions correctly then you did pretty damn good.

 

This year, I think I could hit the first 10 straight. Although Tyson Jackson is starting to creep up on me.

 

 

Really. Do you have a link to that draft?

[Swiss Cheezhead]

just a question but what % of your 1st round picks would you be happy with getting right? What is considered a good % for the experts when they do their mocks?

 

This is why Nolan Nawrocki gets paid the big bucks.

 

He's been the most accurate mocker over the years.

[Swiss Cheezhead]

V. 2

 

1. DET – QB Matthew Stafford (Georgia)

2. STL – OT Eugene Monroe (Virginia)

3. KCC – OT Jason Smith (Baylor)

4. SEA – OT Andre Smith (Alabama)

5. CLE – DE Tyson Jackson (Louisiana State)

6. CIN – DE Brian Orakpo (Texas)

7. OAK – CB Malcolm Jenkins (Ohio State)

8. NYJ (via JAC) – QB Mark Sanchez (Southern California)

9. GBP – DT B.J. Raji (Boston College)

10. SFF – WR Jeremy Maclin (Missouri)

11. BUF – OT Michael Oher (Mississippi)

12. DEN – LB Aaron Curry (Wake Forest)

13. WAS – WR Michael Crabtree (Texas Tech)

14. NOS – CB Vontae Davis (Illinois)

15. HOU – LB Clay Matthews (Southern California)

16. SDC – DE Robert Ayers (Tennessee)

17. NYJ – QB Josh Freeman (Kansas State)

18. DEN -- RB Knowshon Moreno (Georgia)

19. TBB -- CB Darius Butler (Connecticut)

20. DET – LB Rey Maualuga (Southern California)

21. PHI – TE Brandon Pettigrew (Oklahoma State)

22. MIN – OT Eben Britton (Arizona)

23. NEP – WR Percy Harvin (Florida)

24. ATL – DT Peria Jerry (Mississippi)

25. MIA – LB Brian Cushing (Southern California)

26. BAL – WR Darrius Heyward-Bey (Maryland)

27. IND – OC Alex Mack (California)

28. BUF – DE Everette Brown (Florida State)

29. CLE (via NYG) – WR Kenny Britt (Rutgers)

30. TEN – DT Evander Hood (Missouri)

31. ARI – RB Chris Wells (Ohio State)

32. PIT – OC Max Unger (Oregon)

[Ziachild007]

This is why Nolan Nawrocki gets paid the big bucks.

 

He's been the most accurate mocker over the years.

 

Maybe not the best example of success, bud

 

1. Miami Dolphins — OLT Jake Long, Michigan

2. St. Louis Rams — DE Chris Long, Virginia

3. Atlanta Falcons — QB Matt Ryan, Boston College

4. Oakland Raiders — RB Darren McFadden, Arkansas*

5. Kansas City Chiefs — DT Glenn Dorsey, LSU

6. New York Jets — OLB Vernon Gholston, Ohio State*

7. New England Patriots — CB Dominic Rodgers-Cromartie, Tennessee State

8. Baltimore Ravens — OG-OT Branden Albert, Virginia*

9. Cincinnati Bengals — DE Derrick Harvey, Florida*

10. New Orleans Saints — DT Sedrick Ellis, USC

11. Buffalo Bills — CB Leodis McKelvin, Troy

12. Denver Broncos — OLT Ryan Clady, Boise State*

13. Carolina Panthers — RB Jonathan Stewart, Oregon*

14. Chicago Bears — OT Chris Williams, Vanderbilt

15. Detroit Lions — LB Jerod Mayo, Tennessee*

16. Arizona Cardinals — RB Rashard Mendenhall, Illinois*

17. Kansas City Chiefs — OT Jeff Otah, Pittsburgh

18. Houston Texans — OLB Keith Rivers, USC

19. Philadelphia Eagles — OT Gosder Cherilus, Boston College

20. Tampa Bay Buccaneers — CB Mike Jenkins, South Florida

21. Washington Redskins — DE Phillip Merling, Clemson*

22. Dallas Cowboys — WR Devin Thomas, Michigan State*

23. Pittsburgh Steelers — WR James Hardy, Indiana*

24. Tennessee Titans — WR Limas Sweed, Texas

25. Seattle Seahawks — DT Kentwan Balmer, North Carolina

26. Jacksonville Jaguars — S Tyrell Johnson, Arkansas State

27. San Diego Chargers — CB Brandon Flowers, Virginia Tech*

28. Dallas Cowboys — RB Felix Jones, Arkansas*

29. San Francisco 49ers — LB Curtis Lofton, Oklahoma*

30. Green Bay Packers — OT-OG Sam Baker, USC

31. New York Giants — S Kenny Phillips, Miami (Fla.)*

[Square]

I'm actually surprised you changed your mind. You've been towing a hard line lately....its actually kinda refreshing.

Well he has been a member for 20 some days. I thought it was always a good idea to walk into a new place and tell everybody how much you know about everything.