Randall Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 There are some other guys I'd rather have playing QB for my team than Romo, but the list is fairly short. Now you'll have to excuse me, they're weighing in shuttlecocks right now and I for one am way stoked! My list is short too ' Brees Manning Brady Aaron Rodgers Cutler(may change because it is the Bears) Romo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 My list is short too' Brees Manning Brady Aaron Rodgers Cutler(may change because it is the Bears) Romo I may be biased, but I don't see Cutler ahead of Romo regardless of where he is, and I think Rodgers and Romo are about the same guy, but I'd give Romo the edge because of Rodgers' durability issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 I may be biased, but I don't see Cutler ahead of Romo regardless of where he is, and I think Rodgers and Romo are about the same guy, but I'd give Romo the edge because of Rodgers' durability issues. I can see that. I have them pretty close after Brady. Rivers has to be in that 4-7 mix too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peepinmofo Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 I may be biased, but I don't see Cutler ahead of Romo regardless of where he is, and I think Rodgers and Romo are about the same guy, but I'd give Romo the edge because of Rodgers' durability issues. What durability issues? He started all 16 games last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 What durability issues? He started all 16 games last year. And he had serious injuries playing as a backup in the two years previous to that didn't he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 (edited) There are some other guys I'd rather have playing QB for my team than Romo, but the list is fairly short. Manning Brady Ryan Brees Manning Roethlisberger Cutler Rivers McNabb Hasselback Rodgers Palmer Thats my list....I'd take all those to lead my team over Romo. Romo's more mobile than some, more accurate than others, and has a stronger arm than a few more....but add up the whole pie, including his leadership/decision making/turnover potential, and I'd take almost all of the above over him. However, to lead my fantasy team, that list is likely cut in half. Edited May 1, 2009 by i_am_the_swammi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peepinmofo Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 And he had serious injuries playing as a backup in the two years previous to that didn't he? That I dont recall. I dont know that I would base his durability on his tenure as a backup though. Look what he did as a starter. He even played through a shoulder injury, and played pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muck Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Jon Kitna will take over for Romo before McGee will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 My list is short too' Brees Manning Brady Aaron Rodgers Cutler(may change because it is the Bears) Romo How you cannot have Roethlisberger in this mix borders on criminal. He is 10x the leader Romo is, and has multiple rings to prove it. There is more to rating a QB than just his arm. I'll take a bigger heart over a stronger arm every day of the week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 That I dont recall. I dont know that I would base his durability on his tenure as a backup though. Look what he did as a starter. He even played through a shoulder injury, and played pretty good. He had a broken foot from being stepped on 2 years ago and then a hamstring. I think he would have played through the hamstring. The foot was probably a freak injury but it made him look fragile. Last year the shoulder separation was because he landed on his elbow, but he played through great pain. If he's OK this year the injury concerns should be history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt770 Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 How you cannot have Roethlisberger in this mix borders on criminal. He is 10x the leader Romo is, and has multiple rings to prove it. There is more to rating a QB than just his arm. I'll take a bigger heart over a stronger arm every day of the week. I agree, take away the star on his helmet and the famous girlfriend, and he's Matt Leinart. Prettyboy with some nice skills but deep down he's insecure and doesn't believe he can really take the team all the way, therefore cannot lead when it counts. I hate to say it but I see some of this in Sanchez, just a vibe I get from him. A little too glib and smiley. I question whether he will have the guts or confidence to play in the NFL after taking some hard hits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 How you cannot have Roethlisberger in this mix borders on criminal. He is 10x the leader Romo is, and has multiple rings to prove it. There is more to rating a QB than just his arm. I'll take a bigger heart over a stronger arm every day of the week. I will take nothing away from Big Ben. The guy is a winner. I think Pitts rings came more on the backs of the D and running game (more so Bens first ring) though. That being said Ben has the it factor and doesnt choke under pressure so I can see your point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geeteebee Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Stephen McGee is no Bucky Richardson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 How you cannot have Roethlisberger in this mix borders on criminal. He is 10x the leader Romo is, and has multiple rings to prove it. There is more to rating a QB than just his arm. I'll take a bigger heart over a stronger arm every day of the week. Criminal? Pittsburgh is throwing more but still throws fewer than 30 passes a game. Rodgers, Cultler, Romo are all over 34. This is fantasy rating. Yards and TD's are what matters. I like Ben, but in 07 I had him top 5 but last year he slid to #18 in fantasy points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 This is fantasy rating. Actually, this discussion came about from your repsonse to BB who posted: There are some other guys I'd rather have playing QB for my team than Romo, but the list is fairly short. This isn't about fantasy...this sidetrack is about who you'd want leading your NFL team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABearWithFurniture Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 ...no one knows exactly what his judgment is like. Well, he did choose to be an Aggie, so his judgement if fairly suspect IYAM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Actually, this discussion came about from your repsonse to BB who posted:There are some other guys I'd rather have playing QB for my team than Romo, but the list is fairly short. This isn't about fantasy...this sidetrack is about who you'd want leading your NFL team. You're right. Then I would have Brees Peyton Brady Roehtlisberger Rodgers(homer pick) Romo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 You're right. Then I would have Brees Peyton Brady Roehtlisberger Rodgers(homer pick) Romo Curious, why would you want Romo over: 1. Matt Ryan 2. Rivers 3. Warner 4. Mcnabb 5. Eli I am not fishing here....I am truly amazed at what people see in him. How you'd want Romo over any of the guys you mention, and any of the guys I list, baffles me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt770 Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 You're right. Then I would have Brees Peyton Brady Roehtlisberger Rodgers(homer pick) Romo Not to impose my homer bias or anything, but there is a guy who won 3 road playoff games and was SB MVP about 15 months ago. I'm the last person who would normally ever stick up for him, BELIEVE ME, he drives me crazy at times. But he has shown a hell of a lot more in clutch situations than Romo, and you could argue that Romo had a better supporting cast over the past few years, idiot coach and distracting psycho WR notwithstanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentastic Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Curious, why would you want Romo over: 1. Matt Ryan 2. Rivers 3. Warner 4. Mcnabb 5. Eli I am not fishing here....I am truly amazed at what people see in him. How you'd want Romo over any of the guys you mention, and any of the guys I list, baffles me. You're not really saying that Ryan, Rivers and Eli are better than Romo, are you? Warner and McNabb I see but the others aren't even close. Having Ryan and Rivers on this list is laugable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 You're not really saying that Ryan, Rivers and Eli are better than Romo, are you? Having Ryan and Rivers on this list is laugable. Matt Ryan appaers to be more of a leader after just one season than Romo has in his 3. There is a reason he was NFL Offensive ROY. How you can call his inclusion laughable is beyond me. Rivers? Was drafted at the top of the 1st round for a reason, and appears much more calm and oriented under pressure than Romo ever has. His gutty 2007 playoff performance was more than Romo has done in 3 years. I'd take Rivers and his continued upside over a Tony Romo who's best statistical season (with the best WR he'll ever have) has likely passed. And if not for statistics, Romo isn't even in this conversation. Eli? He led an 8-6 team on a 6-game road winning streak and helped win it a Super Bowl. He had them going to the same place last year until he lost his best (and only real) weapon. Moreover, he didn't lose it for them like Romo has done for his team. Again, aside from the fantasy statistics that sometimes blind people, what does anyone see in Romo that makes him a Top-10 NFL QB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentastic Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Matt Ryan appaers to be more of a leader after just one season than Romo has in his 3. There is a reason he was NFL Offensive ROY. How you can call his inclusion laughable is beyond me. Rivers? Was drafted at the top of the 1st round for a reason, and appears much more calm and oriented under pressure than Romo ever has. His gutty 2007 playoff performance was more than Romo has done in 3 years. I'd take Rivers and his continued upside over a Tony Romo who's best statistical season (with the best WR he'll ever have) has likely passed. And if not for statistics, Romo isn't even in this conversation. Eli? He led an 8-6 team on a 6-game road winning streak and helped win it a Super Bowl. He had them going to the same place last year until he lost his best (and only real) weapon. Moreover, he didn't lose it for them like Romo has done for his team. Again, aside from the fantasy statistics that sometimes blind people, what does anyone see in Romo that makes him a Top-10 NFL QB? How are you measuring 'leadership'? Leadership is an intangible that is subjective to guys like you and me watching from our couches. You're nuts if you think Rivers and Ryan are better QBs than Romo. You can't base everything about a player based on playoff wins and losses, especially in the most complete team sport there is. As far as being drafted in the 1st round and using that as ammo in this argument - please How many 1st rounders were drafted for a reason and didn't pan out? More have failed than lived up to the drafting I'm guessing. I'm not gonna beat this into the ground, so we'll have to agree to disagree - but you're just wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polksalet Posted May 1, 2009 Author Share Posted May 1, 2009 Who has won the most playoff games, Ryan or Homo? Who has the most supporting talent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 so we'll have to agree to disagree - but you're just wrong Just sum up for me what you see in Romo that is so much better than Rivers, Eli or Ryan that you think comparing them to him is "laughable". Romo has a strong arm. Agreed. What else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 How are you measuring 'leadership'? Leadership is an intangible that is subjective to guys like you and me watching from our couches. You're nuts if you think Rivers and Ryan are better QBs than Romo. I'd rank them in the order you listed them. Romo's a borderline bum who currently has the "can't win a big game" albatross firmly around his neck. Which sport have you been watching? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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