Euhop Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 Seems like there is a real changing of the guard this past couple of years. Who should be the top 3 players taken in a redraft league this year? Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 redraft top picks thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 (edited) Seems like there is a real changing of the guard this past couple of years. Who should be the top 3 players taken in a redraft league this year? Why? PAUL!! My caveman buddy. Welcome to the dark side my friend. AP Michael Turner MJD I don't have any reasons lol. There will be a nice little discussion about this though I'm sure. I just thought I'd start it off for ya. Welcome to TheHuddle Euhop. ETA: Don't let Big John scare ya. He's a just a big green teddy bear. Edited May 4, 2009 by tazinib1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 MFL ADP top 5 right now 1. Peterson, Adrian MIN RB 1.84 1 4 37 2. Jones-Drew, Maurice JAC RB 4.03 1 21 34 3. Forte, Matt CHI RB 5.31 1 11 36 4. Turner, Michael ATL RB 7.56 1 24 36 5. Johnson, Chris TEN RB 7.71 2 16 35 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 (edited) ETA: Don't let Big John scare ya. He's a just a big green teddy bear. Who in a very short period of time will know everything about you and your family. Currently working on my rankings. As much work as it is, I really love this time of year. Edited May 4, 2009 by irish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajfalcone Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Even though Im biased to MJD because I have him in my league. I'm queesy about his use this year only because I dont trust Del Rio's motives. He will be a stud back no doubt but Del Rio gets quasi crazy when hes under pressure and abandands the run when behind in points even though MJD is their best player. All though all signs point to a heavy run scheme MJD will be drafted slightly higher then he should only because of speculation. Just my thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Even though Im biased to MJD because I have him in my league. I'm queesy about his use this year only because I dont trust Del Rio's motives. He will be a stud back no doubt but Del Rio gets quasi crazy when hes under pressure and abandands the run when behind in points even though MJD is their best player. All though all signs point to a heavy run scheme MJD will be drafted slightly higher then he should only because of speculation. Just my thoughts. The problem is that nothing is a sure bet. I'm hoping MJD isn't top 3 like some people show him (just cause I doubt I'm drafting that high). He just has less question marks than a lot of the other RBs. Maybe it's just me but my draft doesn't seem to really start until about the 3rd round. The first couple picks are such a cluster-F of situation and people failing to meet expectations that I usually don't do that well (Sjax and R. Moss were my first two rounds in my main league last year drafting at 11). So it is appealing to take someone with less question marks. The later rounds let things loosen up a bit so I can take advantage of what value is left at the board. Anyway, so my point is that while MJD might not end up a top 5 RB, it is hard to see a good reason why he wouldn't at least put up top 10 numbers. And a lot of people value that security to start off their draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawks21 Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 1. AD--self explanatory 2. DeAngelo--I actually see less for Stewart this year, and even more DWILL 3. Tom Brady--Because he is Tom Brady and Randy Moss is Randy Moss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS Miscreant Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 ...Del Rio gets quasi crazy when hes under pressure and abandands the run when behind in points even though MJD is their best player. I'm not saying he's a top three but dude has averaged about 50 receptions and had 62 last year so the Jags throwing the ball should not be a serious issue when considering him. Anyway, so my point is that while MJD might not end up a top 5 RB, it is hard to see a good reason why he wouldn't at least put up top 10 numbers. And a lot of people value that security to start off their draft. Because of the aforementioned stats along with the fact that he had nearly half of the Jags 1,800 rushing yards while sharing the backfield I tend to agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawks21 Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 (edited) I want to preface this at all by saying that I have no evidence or numbers or any concrete information whatsoever to add, but for some dumb reason, I'm just not buying MJD at top 5 prices. Something tells me that his YPC is going to go down somewhat signifcantly once defenses start to prepare for and key on him exclusively. I'm not sure why I think that. I was a huge supporter for Westbrook and DeAngelo well before they reached stud status. I tend to like the smaller guys, but something is keeping me back. I think defenses valued Fred Taylor's talent. Up until the second half of last year, I don't think teams were really preparing for MJD. I think he was the ultimate change-of-pace back, one of the better ones we have seen. I am not sure his game translates to a Williams or Westbrook. He runs too darn hard up the middle!! Maybe that's it. Maybe I see him getting banged up with 20 carries per. I like MJD. I just remembered that I actually played Call of Duty with him a few months ago! Nice guy, loud wife! He torched my Huskies for every record known to man in college. Still, for some darn reason, he will not be on my fantasy team unless he somehow falls to 7-8. Edited May 8, 2009 by Seahawks21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Stanky Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 MJD was the #2 RB in standard PPR leagues last year. I think it's ludicrous to think he won't be a top 5 back next year, barring injury. My top 3 right now: PPR MJD ADP Forte Non-PPR ADP Turner MJD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 1. AD--self explanatory2. DeAngelo--I actually see less for Stewart this year, and even more DWILL 3. Tom Brady--Because he is Tom Brady and Randy Moss is Randy Moss. Shirley you jest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawks21 Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Shirley you jest. Your boy is very good. Deangelo is just better. How can you take carries away from him at this point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Your boy is very good. Deangelo is just better. How can you take carries away from him at this point? You missed the Shirley reference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Your boy is very good. Deangelo is just better. How can you take carries away from him at this point? Sorry but I don't think De-Will is better. I think he's given the rock because of loyalty..not talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawks21 Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Sorry but I don't think De-Will is better. I think he's given the rock because of loyalty..not talent. Did you happen to watch DeAngelo play the sport of football last year?? And yes, I know nothing of this Shirley gal. You forget, I am young and deprived. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 Did you happen to watch DeAngelo play the sport of football last year?? And yes, I know nothing of this Shirley gal. You forget, I am young and deprived. I did but I also watched Stewart and my opinion stands. Look, this is akin to me telling you Reggie Williams has no talent. You won't convince me De-Will is better than my boy Stew. It just won't happen. Ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Dick Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 I tend to like the smaller guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 (edited) Your boy is very good. Deangelo is just better. How can you take carries away from him at this point? Because they are in a RBBC and Stewart is no longer a rookie? Who is better is debatable. They could share carries this year. If both get about 225 carries and 1200 yards where would you rank them? Sorry but I don't think De-Will is better. I think he's given the rock because of loyalty..not talent. It's not loyalty. One was a rookie and DW has been in the system longer and deserved his chance. I think it's trust. This year I think Stewart will get more carries. I think they are 1A and 1 B. Watch out for Goodson though. Edited May 9, 2009 by Randall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Myopia Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 Currently working on my rankings. As much work as it is, I really love this time of year. Are you a DMD alias? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawks21 Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 Because they are in a RBBC and Stewart is no longer a rookie? Who is better is debatable. They could share carries this year. If both get about 225 carries and 1200 yards where would you rank them? It's not loyalty. One was a rookie and DW has been in the system longer and deserved his chance. I think it's trust. This year I think Stewart will get more carries. I think they are 1A and 1 B. Watch out for Goodson though. Not that they don't trust Stewart more than they did last year, but I think they also trust Williams even more. All I'm saying is that with the way this guy tears it up, it is going to be awfully hard to get him off the field, regardless of how well Stewart plays. I like Stewart too, but if DeAngelo gets off to a hot start, which I think he will, he could force the hand, and make them kind of wait for Stewart for another year. I know I'm sticking a my neck out a bit to say that, but in the end I just think Deangelo is that good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh 0ne Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Are you a DMD alias? Don't feed the troll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Did you happen to watch DeAngelo play the sport of football last year?? No way I'll be drafting Williams this year....may burn me not taking him, but I think there's a better chance it will burn me if I do. While I agree he had a phenomenal year last year, I need someone to tell me why he suddenly went from league and message-board laughing stock in August of 2008 to one of the top-3 Rbs in football overnight. Something smells like flash-in-the-pan...I'll let someone else order it until I'm sure its cooked all the way thru. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 While I agree he had a phenomenal year last year, I need someone to tell me why he suddenly went from league and message-board laughing stock in August of 2008 to one of the top-3 Rbs in football overnight. Williams always had the talent (and he wasn't a laughing stock to those who watched carefully), Fox was just dedicated to misusing him and promoting Foster as his lead RB. As soon as Fox finally gave up on Foster, the table was set for Williams. It's no flash in the pan that he took off the way he did once his workload increaesd. He showed clear signs of being capable of this type of performance prior to his breaking out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Williams always had the talent (and he wasn't a laughing stock to those who watched carefully), Fox was just dedicated to misusing him and promoting Foster as his lead RB. As soon as Fox finally gave up on Foster, the table was set for Williams. It's no flash in the pan that he took off the way he did once his workload increaesd. He showed clear signs of being capable of this type of performance prior to his breaking out. maybe laughing-stock was a poor choice of words...bu there is no question that, prior to October of 2008, he was looked at as nothing more than a complimentary RB. While you may have thought he had the makings of a year like last year, most did not....including every mock draft I looked at, and more importantly, his own coaching staff (as evidenced by their lack of faith in giving him the preponderance of the workload when Foster was there, and drafting Stewart so highly upon Foster's departure). But I can't help think that his majcial 8-game stretch last year may have been some overachieving. Amazing that everyone seems to forget that through Week 8, he averaged 65 yards per game, and scored only 3 TDs. And it wasn't because he was being used dramatically less....save for a couple 25+ carry weeks in Week 16 & 17, it was on the same 15-16 touches per game that he had in the 2nd half of the year. Perhaps Williams goes on to have a stellar career now that he has been given the chance and earned some kudos. It wouldn't really surprise me. There are just a plethera of other backs that have done it for more than 6 games that I would take over him. He'll be drafted much higher (top 4-6) than I'd be willing to take him (Top 9-12). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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