Ziachild007 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 I don't think it's crazy at all. Chances are that he'll be on his best behavior and will only miss a game. If this happens, he should be draft WAY earlier than Moreno and Stewart. I think he destroys them talent wise. Stewart is firmly the no.2 back on his team, and Moreno, who I do like is a bit of a wildcard. Who knows what his role will be? Will he be in on goalline downs? With Lynch, you know what you're getting. I agree with PON Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 And when he does, cause he will, we'll revisit this thread. Are you expecting it this year? Because I don't see DeAngelo Williams playing behind Stewart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDFFFreak Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 LT with the 5th pick? You are way higher on him at this point than I am. It's not a PPR league, but I see several guys that went after you picked LT with so much more upside potential without the risk that they may be hitting the age wall. DW, Chris Johnson, and Slaton to name a few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted May 10, 2009 Author Share Posted May 10, 2009 LT with the 5th pick? You are way higher on him at this point than I am. It's not a PPR league, but I see several guys that went after you picked LT with so much more upside potential without the risk that they may be hitting the age wall. DW, Chris Johnson, and Slaton to name a few. Well, I certainly considered LT and DW at that point. I opted for LT since I think he has one more year in him and DW is going from one of the easiest rushing schedules to one of the hardest and I worry both about his durability as well and how much Stewart will horn in. I have also just begun my process of ranking so I am not sure who I really like there yet. I liked Jackson too even with his durability issues because of his schedule. It was for a magazine so I considered DW just because he would have looked better there. I took LT - I may not do that again at that spot. I will know in a few weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargerz Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 LT with the 5th pick? You are way higher on him at this point than I am. It's not a PPR league, but I see several guys that went after you picked LT with so much more upside potential without the risk that they may be hitting the age wall. DW, Chris Johnson, and Slaton to name a few. This was my first thought as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawks21 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 At first I have to admit I wasn't all that impressed with your team on paper, then I saw how the draft went down, saw the logic, and agreed that I would have made many of the same picks. I'm surprised you took Rogers over Romo. Isn't Beenie Wells a great buy at 67? Isn't he gonna be the man there? That is a huge upside pick. I know they don't exactly run a ton, but sometimes a good young RB can change that dynamic some. The comment on Julius Jones was absolutely perfect. Not the sexiest team in the world but it is certainly well-rounded and ought to contend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H8tank Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 Mojo Baby! #2! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxfactor Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 So when did the defenses start going off the board? Getting the Ravens as your 2nd D? Melikes that. I'm just curious as you stated that D's can score as much as WRs in this league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted May 10, 2009 Author Share Posted May 10, 2009 I took the first defense at the 9.05 and then I grabbed BAL as the fourth defense taken at the 10.08. And I do not think they recognized how even defenses were with WR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 I took the first defense at the 9.05 and then I grabbed BAL as the fourth defense taken at the 10.08. And I do not think they recognized how even defenses were with WR. That's earlier than I take defenses, but Baltimore at #4 is a nice value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clubfoothead Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 1 Adrian Peterson24 Drew Brees 25 Brandon Marshall (all those WR in a non-PPR surprised me) 26 Ryan Grant I think I like that team a lot more with Grant than with Marshall... 37 Terrell Owens40 Antonio Bryant My biggest keeper question '09 goes unanswered... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted May 10, 2009 Author Share Posted May 10, 2009 Here are how the top 5 scored in each position (excluding PK) QB 354 340 335 329 RB 268 249 240 236 wr 190 185 181 177 Def 172 172 172 170 TE 155 115 114 114 That is why I took the 2 DEF of the first 5 selected. This was an all play format so I get the best score each week between MIN, BAL and ARZ defenses. Teams that held off on getting their DEF until later gave away some points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDFFFreak Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 (edited) Well, I certainly considered LT and DW at that point. I opted for LT since I think he has one more year in him and DW is going from one of the easiest rushing schedules to one of the hardest and I worry both about his durability as well and how much Stewart will horn in. I have also just begun my process of ranking so I am not sure who I really like there yet. I liked Jackson too even with his durability issues because of his schedule. It was for a magazine so I considered DW just because he would have looked better there. I took LT - I may not do that again at that spot. I will know in a few weeks. Fair enough. It must be real tough to draft this early for a major fantasy publication. You'll end up looking brilliant or like a doofus as so much changes over the next 4 months. As I worry about Stewart in Carolina, I feel a bit the same with Sproles. I just see a lot more sharing with LT. Probably not an even 50/50 split provided LT stays healthy, but maybe along the lines of a 70/30 or even a 60/40-- way too much for the 5th overall pick who appears to be losing his homerun play potential. It's a very tough call in any case and at this point I want to be in the #1-#4 spots if this draft is any indication... Edited May 10, 2009 by TDFFFreak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donutrun Jellies Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 Favre didn't go in the top 100? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 (edited) Really? I wouldn't figure no more than 400/5 for the year. I am figuring him on around 150-175 carries and about 8-9 TDs which could be more if he is used as the exclusive GL back so that would be around 600-775 yards rushing and with 8-9 TDs you would be looking at around 116-126points without accounting for the few receptions and reception yardage he will get ...you would be looking at a back that would rank around 30-35 among RBs...that to me isnt bad value for where you can get him or should I say where I expect he will be drafted this year fwiw, if you want to hold me to an exact projection I will say 700 yards and 9 TDs. Edited May 10, 2009 by keggerz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H8tank Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 They got a rook in Jax who is gonna get some carries, Greg Jones is not someone to draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 They got a rook in Jax who is gonna get some carries, Greg Jones is not someone to draft. Didn't they pick him with the 250th selection? Who's to say he won't take on the same work load that Chauncey Washington had last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 I am figuring him on around 150-175 carries and about 8-9 TDs which could be more if he is used as the exclusive GL backso that would be around 600-775 yards rushing and with 8-9 TDs you would be looking at around 116-126points without accounting for the few receptions and reception yardage he will get ...you would be looking at a back that would rank around 30-35 among RBs...that to me isnt bad value for where you can get him or should I say where I expect he will be drafted this year fwiw, if you want to hold me to an exact projection I will say 700 yards and 9 TDs. Wow! I think that's really over shooting it but it's certainly possible with Freddy T gone as someone needs to help carry the load with MJD. Didn't they pick him with the 250th selection? Who's to say he won't take on the same work load that Chauncey Washington had last year? Yeah, Rashad Jennings. He's a big fella- over 6 feet, about 6' 1" 230-235 lbs. He's got great run strength and gets stronger as the game goes on. Has shown he can handle a heavy workload. He should also help fill Fred Taylor's shoes and will probably not allow Greg Jones be much more than a late round flier as he could easily take GL carries as well. Should be interesting to see how each of these backs are used and to what degree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Wow! I think that's really over shooting it but it's certainly possible with Freddy T gone as someone needs to help carry the load with MJD. Yeah, Rashad Jennings. He's a big fella- over 6 feet, about 6' 1" 230-235 lbs. He's got great run strength and gets stronger as the game goes on. Has shown he can handle a heavy workload. He should also help fill Fred Taylor's shoes and will probably not allow Greg Jones be much more than a late round flier as he could easily take GL carries as well. Should be interesting to see how each of these backs are used and to what degree. I think the opposite as far as Jennings and Jones go... What really makes one believe that a back from a small school who was selected in the 7th is going to come in and take up meaningful carries? Chauncey Washington didn't come close to that, and the team is comfortable with Jones. Not saying it couldn't happen, but I think Jones is the MUCH safer pck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 I think the opposite as far as Jennings and Jones go... What really makes one believe that a back from a small school who was selected in the 7th is going to come in and take up meaningful carries? Chauncey Washington didn't come close to that, and the team is comfortable with Jones. Not saying it couldn't happen, but I think Jones is the MUCH safer pck. Who thought a WR, like Colston or a QB, like Tom Brady, would do what they did in the NFL? Jones is the safer pick without a doubt, I just think Jennings will take enough from him that I don't see him putting up the numbers that Keggerz projected. Also, I never said Jennings was going to have meaningful carries rather he should "help fill Fred Taylor's shoes". MJD is the main man and others will pitch in. Will Jones be a huge contributor and pick up most of the slack left behind by Taylor (including being the GL guy) or will he and Jennings/others combine to post slighter lesser than Taylor's stats from last year altogether? If the first option happens, Greg Jones has solid value (especially because of the TDs) and will probably come as an excellent draft day value. If the 2nd option unfolds, Jones won't be worth nearly as much and may even find his way onto the WW at some point throughout the season in fantasy leagues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Who thought a WR, like Colston or a QB, like Tom Brady, would do what they did in the NFL? Jones is the safer pick without a doubt, I just think Jennings will take enough from him that I don't see him putting up the numbers that Keggerz projected. Also, I never said Jennings was going to have meaningful carries rather he should "help fill Fred Taylor's shoes". MJD is the main man and others will pitch in. Will Jones be a huge contributor and pick up most of the slack left behind by Taylor (including being the GL guy) or will he and Jennings/others combine to post slighter lesser than Taylor's stats from last year altogether? If the first option happens, Greg Jones has solid value (especially because of the TDs) and will probably come as an excellent draft day value. If the 2nd option unfolds, Jones won't be worth nearly as much and may even find his way onto the WW at some point throughout the season in fantasy leagues. Out of all the picks in the sixth and seventh round you can only come up with a handful of guys like Colston, Brady, and even Bulger. The are the exception to the rule. And Fred Taylors departure leaves very meaningful carries for someone to get, I wasn't saying that MJD wasn't the man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted May 11, 2009 Author Share Posted May 11, 2009 Out of all the picks in the sixth and seventh round you can only come up with a handful of guys like Colston, Brady, and even Bulger. The are the exception to the rule. And Fred Taylors departure leaves very meaningful carries for someone to get, I wasn't saying that MJD wasn't the man. Actually they are extreme exceptions. You could not find a Colston equivalent in the last 20 years. You cannot hardly find any WR of any fantsy relevance as a rookie who was drafted later than the second round. Not in the last couple of decades. QBs are a bit different but remember Brady did nothing as a rookie and Bulger had no fantasy value as a rookie with 11 TDs against 13 INT in 15 games played. http://www.thehuddle.com/x8/articles/dmd-dft5yr-rb.php There are the last five years of RBs drafted.The seventh round is hardly a fertile ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 There are the last five years of RBs drafted.The seventh round is hardly a fertile ground. Yeah, it looks like it's Derrick Ward who has a chance to be a solid RB play this year, and a bunch of guys who look to top out as third backs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtdickens Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Jennings is a bad mofo. He tore up the all star game but was out of shape at the combine. I really like this kid, but I dont think he will play much. I learned my lesson aking Xavier Oman a few years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H8tank Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 My $20 says Jennings has better stats than Jones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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