WaterMan Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 Last 3 years in both my leagues, I followed the simple formula WR,WR,RB,RB IF you are picking 7-10. And in both leagues I made it to the super bowl. To bad I didn't win but I made it. I recommended this strategy to several ppl and backed it up with statistics. Now I am by no means a know it all guy but if something I toyed around with and it works, I am more than happy to share my success with all of you. If you take a running back with a late-first-rounder, you'll already be drawing from the non-elite pool at the position, and that will leave you chasing points. From 2002-08, the top-ranked running back averaged 347 compared to 225 points for the No. 8 back and 205 for the No. 10 back. You don't really help your cause by doubling down on a running back in the second round, either. For example, if every owner goes RB-RB with the first two picks, the top spot would hold an advantage of 107 points over the 10th spot. Good luck making that up, especially when you consider the owner selecting first overall will also lock in the top-ranked wide receiver in the third round in this scenario. The 1st 4 or 5 RBs off the board are similar and as I like to call them "high end" RBs. Once they are gone, the next 15 are a crap shoot and will put up similar points for you week in and week out. Approx 20-25 points on avg. This is a strategy in a 10 team league, if I forgot to mention. Think of it this way, if you are picking at the 9 position,which I am doing again this year, grabbing a wr 1st, you can aquire AJ, Jennings, Moss or even Fitz if your lucky. Then grabbing one of the other formentioned WRs as your 2nd pic will benefit you greatly. Ppl grabbing RBs at the 8-10 spot, won't benefit as much as the WRs available. After the 1st 4 or even 5 RBs get taken, there is a considerable drop off from points per game they will get you. RBs in the 3rd round and 4th consist of Bush, P.Thomas, McFadden, Grant, Stewart, Ronnie Brown and many more that I would glady have on my roster. Good info here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 Finally sacked up and did the WR/WR in my main league. Very thin at RB and I need someone to go down this year. There are plenty of RBBCs and RBs go down all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulfly Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 14 team PPR, redraft. I did the WR/WR again. 11th pick. I took A. Johnson, came back around with Calvin Johnson, picked K. Smith in the third, followed by D. Clark (TE mandatory league), Palmer, K. Walter, C. Benson, A. Bradshaw. Feeling really good about this again this year. Yes, no matter which way you go in the draft, you have to sacrifice a little at at least one position. But I don't think my sacrifice is that great when I still get two starting RBs with little competition. And Bradshaw is there to take over when Jacobs goes down like he always does. Roster: Palmer, Edwards Smith, Benson, Bradshaw Johnson, Johnson, Walter Clark, Boss Kaeding Chargers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Loins of Beef Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 Did a NFFC 12 teamer for their online Championship last night PPR-(rb only .5, Passing Td-6)-Starters QB, 2RB, 3Wr, Te, D, K and Flex- 1.08-Moss Rd2-Jennings Rd3-K Smith Rd4-Housh Rd5-Addai Rd6-Wells Rd7-Felix Rd8-Olsen Rd9-Ryan Rd10-Z.Miller Rd11-Nicks Rd12-L Robinson Rd13-GB d Rd14-Flacco Rd15-M.Bell Rd16-Kelly Rd17-Ware Rd18Elam Rd19Clowney Rd20Murphy Went the WR route and came away pretty happy --waited on QB and TE so ended up with usable RB but all 3 were picked without their handcuffs so we will see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddahj Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 i went wr/wr this year (10th pick in 12 team league). i drafted fitz & a. johnson...and i even feel good about my rb's too. i picked up grant in the 3rd, westy in the 5th, rice in the 6th, wells in the 8th, & l. washington in the 11th. i guess we'll see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtdickens Posted September 7, 2009 Author Share Posted September 7, 2009 Looks like a lot of you had a more to choose from in terms of RBs coming back around in the 3rd. Where did the elite QBs get snatched up? Rodgers was there at 3.9 and I felt better taking him than picking from the Ronnie Brown-Thomas Jones teir of RBs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddahj Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 Looks like a lot of you had a more to choose from in terms of RBs coming back around in the 3rd. Where did the elite QBs get snatched up? Rodgers was there at 3.9 and I felt better taking him than picking from the Ronnie Brown-Thomas Jones teir of RBs. brady, both mannings (hard to beleive eli went that early...nyg homer), brees, romo, rodgers, & rivers were all gone by pick 3.08 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTen Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Well I went WR/Wr for the first time ever. It is a PPR league so I went AJ and CJ. I had #10 of 12. I passed on 2 RB's figuring I would get one on the way back knowing who was picking after me and how they almost always draft. Well that plan went to hell in a hand basket and they did what they never do. Both went RB/RB I figured I could get Grant or P. Thomas later but again 2 different teams went RB/RB/RB with their first 3 picks I ended up with a horrible backfield with McFadden/Lynch/Washington/Graham/Charles Who knows, maybe my RB's will pan out OK. I have great WR's with AJ/CJ/Bowe/S. Moss. I can still make a trade after a few weeks pan out and people see they need a WR (fingers crossed). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Muto Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Well I went WR/Wr for the first time ever. It is a PPR league so I went AJ and CJ. I had #10 of 12. I passed on 2 RB's figuring I would get one on the way back knowing who was picking after me and how they almost always draft. Well that plan went to hell in a hand basket and they did what they never do. Both went RB/RB I figured I could get Grant or P. Thomas later but again 2 different teams went RB/RB/RB with their first 3 picks I ended up with a horrible backfield with McFadden/Lynch/Washington/Graham/Charles Who knows, maybe my RB's will pan out OK. I have great WR's with AJ/CJ/Bowe/S. Moss. I can still make a trade after a few weeks pan out and people see they need a WR (fingers crossed). In a PPR league McFadden, Lynch and Leon Washington is not that bad. Sure they are not superstars but dude you got Andre and Calvin freaking Johnson! Let me explain something getting those 2 WR's at 10/15 is near criminal I just finished about 5 PPR drafts in the last 3 days and AJ was going between picks 4-7 in ALL of them and CJ never made it past 11 in ANY of them. Once Lynch comes back he will be like having a 2nd or 3rd round RB on your team. Bowe as a 3rd WR is pretty good as well he catches a lot of passes. Give me your team I will take it to a title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalking_Eagle Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 I'm starting Megatron & V-Jax. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mucca Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Went Wr/Wr in my 12 team local. Standard scoring no PPR. Picked out of the 11 hole R Moss A Johnson K Smith J Witten W Parker T Romo D Mason F Jones J Davis J Morgan Baltimore B Scott D Akers M Cassell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BirdmanJones Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Went Wr/Wr in my 12 team local. Standard scoring no PPR. Picked out of the 11 holeR Moss A Johnson K Smith J Witten W Parker T Romo D Mason F Jones J Davis J Morgan Baltimore B Scott D Akers M Cassell I'm 9 of 12. No ppr/standard. As I consider the WR-WR-RB-RB plan, could do a lot worse than this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qdaddyo Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 (edited) 12 team local...unique scoring with 1pt./1yd. & 25 pt. TDs. I had the 12th pick, with Chris Johnson as my keeper. Team is in my sig. I took Andre Johnson in 1.12 and Randy Moss in 2.1. It was a relief to not have to worry about WRs for a while. Edited September 8, 2009 by Qdaddyo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boat_hacked Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (The Mucca @ 9/8/09 2:19am) Went Wr/Wr in my 12 team local. Standard scoring no PPR. Picked out of the 11 holeR Moss A Johnson K Smith J Witten W Parker T Romo D Mason F Jones J Davis J Morgan Baltimore B Scott D Akers M Cassell I'm 9 of 12. No ppr/standard. As I consider the WR-WR-RB-RB plan, could do a lot worse than this... Picked from the 9 spot and went WR/WR/RB/RB ended up with: Fitz Wayne Grant PT Edited September 8, 2009 by boat_hacked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thews40 Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 All drafts are different. If you're the only game in town going WR/WR, it should force a WR run. You can't have it all, but in a PPR a stud WR or two is money. WR's are going higher this year than I've ever seen them go, which mixes up what remains. RBBC is the new trend and it's gonna stick IMO. This year's stats will prolly prove that more than ever... 2 cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWalls Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 10 team PPR league. Picked at #8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 It should force a run, but you've seen the debates on here over WR/WR or RB/RB. People are set in their drafting ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtdickens Posted September 15, 2009 Author Share Posted September 15, 2009 0-1 to start the year. Not much I could do when the guy I played had the Philly D and I was minus Pierre Thomas. Overall I was encouraged by my team because I think that Moss and Fitz outproduced everyone else drafted in the same range for me. Without PT I had to start Felix Jones and Fatdale-combined 5 points, but my WRs/RBs outscored the RBs/WRs taken in the same range enough that I still came out a little bit ahead. Going into next week I should be good as I think Royal will get some looks and the GB WRs will actually catch a few long balls, or anything for that matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billay Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Interesting that there were so many similar rosters under the WR/Wr plan. I'll be interested to hear how these linups do in different leagues. As far as runs go, isn;t the whole point to beat the run, rather than be controlled by it? I understand the principle, but drafting in order to cause a run, seems to me to alter your ability to choose almost as much as feeling forced to follow it. And isn;t there something to be said to draft in such a way that you have insurance against a run? By loading up on any one position, you make yourself vulnerable to a run in another. Concentrate on building an entire team and you are more likely to retain choice throughout the draft and make better decisions. A "forced" pick is almost always a bad one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.K.Trey Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Well I went WR/Wr for the first time ever. It is a PPR league so I went AJ and CJ. I had #10 of 12. I passed on 2 RB's figuring I would get one on the way back knowing who was picking after me and how they almost always draft. Well that plan went to hell in a hand basket and they did what they never do. Both went RB/RB I figured I could get Grant or P. Thomas later but again 2 different teams went RB/RB/RB with their first 3 picks I ended up with a horrible backfield with McFadden/Lynch/Washington/Graham/Charles Who knows, maybe my RB's will pan out OK. I have great 2 WR's with AJ/CJ , 1 So-So WR in Bowe, and one completely craaaapppy wr in S. Moss. I can still make a trade after a few weeks pan out and people see they need a WR (fingers crossed). fixed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTSuper7 Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 i went wr/wr this year (10th pick in 12 team league). i drafted fitz & a. johnson...and i even feel good about my rb's too. i picked up grant in the 3rd, westy in the 5th, rice in the 6th, wells in the 8th, & l. washington in the 11th. i guess we'll see what happens. Brian Westbrook in the 5th round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby's Hubby Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Mojo and Reggie Wayne here, had 3rd pick in 12 team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 (edited) I am sure this will jinx me the rest of the year but I have no problem updating weekly with if I won or loss after going WR/WR and for kicks will list my starting RBs Wk1: Won 175.68 to 175.22 Reggie Bush/Leon Washington Wk2: Lost 181.70 to 221.20 (I was "Gore'd") Reggie Bush/Leon Washington Edited September 23, 2009 by keggerz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordanzs Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 (edited) Last Tuesday, we had a draft for a 10 team startup dynasty league. All experienced Fantasy Football players that I've played against for years. Fun times drafting players, knowing that I'll be keeping them forever. I had the 6th pick, and went for the WR/WR strategy: 6 Calvin Johnson, Det 15 Greg Jennings, GB 26 Matt Ryan, Atl 35 Darren McFadden, Oak 46 Kevin Smith, Det 55 Vincent Jackson, SD 66 Donald Brown, Ind 75 Greg Olsen, Chi 86 Eagles D/ST, Phi 95 Michael Crabtree, SF 106 Mark Sanchez, NYJ 115 Reggie Bush, NO 126 Jeremy Maclin, Phi 135 James Davis, Cle 146 Dustin Keller, NYJ 155 D'Qwell Jackson, Cle 166 Leon Washington, NYJ 175 Earl Bennett, Chi 186 Cowboys D/ST, Dal 195 Chris Henry, Cin 206 Yeremiah Bell, Mia 215 Bernard Scott, Cin 226 Jason Elam, Atl 235 Adewale Ogunleye, Chi I preranked the WRs having Megatron as #1 & Jennings as #4. The Manager with the 9th pick also went WR/WR & took Fitz & Andre Johnson, who I had pre-ranked as #2 & #3. I got the better of those combos this week, we'll see what happens in the future. My thinking for a dynasty league is that most of today's workhorse running backs will be in timeshares within a couple of years. The RBBC system is proven to work for NFL teams, so we're gonna be seeing more & more of it. Plus, if you look at the cheatsheets over the years, running backs in the top 10 are always changing, but the top 10 WR crew seems to be more stable. Edited September 15, 2009 by jordanzs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pillsbury Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Went WR/WR this year for the first time. 12 team PPR, BOTH local semi-big money league. Took Fitz and Megatron with 11th and 14th picks, then came back and got Westbrook and K. Smith. Reached a bit (according to ADP) with 5th pick and took J. Carlson (TE mandatory with bonus yardage), but really wanted him and knew he wouldn't last much longer with all of us living in the greater Seattle area. Took high week score (and subsequent $$ pot) this past week. Rest of the roster as follows: M. Ryan, Garrard, Orton Westbrook, K. Smith, Larry Johnson, Ladell Betts, Shonn Greene (just dropped for McGahee) Fitz, C. Johnson, D. Avery, J. Morgan J. Carlson, Shockey Lindell Arizona D We will see how the season goes, but not regretting the WR/WR picks at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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