Savage Beatings Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 So far, accoridng to an article in PFT (yes, the TMZ of the NFL) Maybin has looked "brutal" in OTA's. I know, it's early, but "brutal" can't be a good way to start your career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 They said this “Brutal” is the adjective that’s making the rounds. Per the team’s official web site, Maybin was sprinkled in with the first team on Wednesday. At one point on Tuesday, he got into a skirmish with tackle Chris Denman." but nowhere on the 2 sites they linked was "brutal" used. I don't know what "rounds" he was talking about. Maybin was a questionable pick with Oher available and Peters traded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budlitebrad Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 I don't usually defend the Bills, but you can't base much just on OTAs. Even if he has a weak first season, he's young and it takes a little while for the light to turn on for lineman (see Mario Williams). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menudo Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 Take it from this PSU fan, Maybin will be a very good pass rusher as a OLB in a 3-4 defense. However, he was kind of a one-trick pony. He used his phenomenal speed and athleticism to get to the QB, but, in the NFL, he will need to show that he can play well against the run and will need to show that he can do a decent job when used in pass coverage. The jury is still out, but, at the very least, he can be a pass rush specialist immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt Ryan Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 Take it from this PSU fan, Maybin will be a very good pass rusher as a OLB in a 3-4 defense. However, he was kind of a one-trick pony. He used his phenomenal speed and athleticism to get to the QB, but, in the NFL, he will need to show that he can play well against the run and will need to show that he can do a decent job when used in pass coverage. The jury is still out, but, at the very least, he can be a pass rush specialist immediately. Forgive me but the Big 10 has no speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Cheezhead Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 (edited) Take it from this PSU fan, Maybin will be a very good pass rusher as a OLB in a 3-4 defense. However, he was kind of a one-trick pony. He used his phenomenal speed and athleticism to get to the QB, but, in the NFL, he will need to show that he can play well against the run and will need to show that he can do a decent job when used in pass coverage. The jury is still out, but, at the very least, he can be a pass rush specialist immediately. No mention of the fact that he played at 220 lbs. while at PSU, but has bulked up to 250 since his last game? He looked phenomenal on tape, but he's quite literally not the same player he was in college. I'm confident he'll be the biggest first-round bust of this draft class. Edited May 25, 2009 by Swiss Cheezhead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 sounds like jarvis moss, take 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robash Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 He will be a bust cause he was a backup to this guy.... With a defensive line overloaded with seven starters and two other players (Jay Alford, Dave Tollefson) with significant NFL experience, there isn’t much room for more defensive linemen. But it sounds like Maurice Evans, the undrafted free agent out of Penn State, is making the coaches think about how to squeeze in at least one more.“Maurice Evans did a nice job,” Sheridan said. “He’s got some quickness and explosion. You can’t help but notice it. We ran a very small little stunt game just periodically at practice, and he looks different than the average guy. He’s got quickness and explosion to him.” Added defensive line coach Mike Waufle: “He showed some pass-rush ability. At the point of attack he’s going to be pretty strong against the run. He did have 12 ½ sacks as a sophomore at Penn State, so he’s promising.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtdickens Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 (edited) If Evans can stay away from the dope he will be pretty good. I cant believe he didnt get drafted. Maybin went pretty high for a one tool DE. The PSU fan was right about him and he did beat up on some pretty crappy OTs last year. Edited May 26, 2009 by dirtdickens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menudo Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 No mention of the fact that he played at 220 lbs. while at PSU, but has bulked up to 250 since his last game? He looked phenomenal on tape, but he's quite literally not the same player he was in college. I'm confident he'll be the biggest first-round bust of this draft class. Yeah, I really don't get the idea of him bulking up to 250. That makes zero sense for him. The best 3-4 OLB's play at around 215-225 with speed off the edges. I wonder if he was advised to do it, or if he just thought it was a good idea. It will be interesting to keep an eye on his progress. Obviously, as a guy who came somewhat out of no where to dominate at PSU, I wish him well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menudo Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 If Evans can stay away from the dope he will be pretty good. I cant believe he didnt get drafted. Maybin went pretty high for a one tool DE. The PSU fan was right about him and he did beat up on some pretty crappy OTs last year. Very true. The guy has a lot of talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtdickens Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 How exactly did he gain 30 pounds of muscle in one offseason while not losing any speed? Not saying he did it, but looking at his pictures............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menudo Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 How exactly did he gain 30 pounds of muscle in one offseason while not losing any speed? Not saying he did it, but looking at his pictures............ I don't buy it. 40 times and on-field quickness are two different things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtdickens Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__HAUSE__ Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 Yeah, I really don't get the idea of him bulking up to 250. That makes zero sense for him. The best 3-4 OLB's play at around 215-225 with speed off the edges. I wonder if he was advised to do it, or if he just thought it was a good idea. It will be interesting to keep an eye on his progress. Obviously, as a guy who came somewhat out of no where to dominate at PSU, I wish him well. Why do think he is playing OLB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menudo Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 (edited) Why do think he is playing OLB? Well, I thought that was the plan. If he is being groomed for something else then it might make sense. However, the guy was an absolutely perfect fit to be an OLB in a 3-4. His speed coming off the corner is the only reason he was drafted at all. Are the Bills planning to keep him at DE ? Edited May 28, 2009 by Menudo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__HAUSE__ Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 Well, I thought that was the plan. If he is being groomed for something else then it might make sense. However, the guy was an absolutely perfect fit to be an OLB in a 3-4. His speed coming off the corner is the only reason he was drafted at all. Are the Bills planning to keep him at DE ? He has been playing DE for the Bills since OTA's started. As far as I know that is where they plan on having him play. Unless they are switching to a 3-4, and I have not heard a thing about that up here in chicken wing land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menudo Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 He has been playing DE for the Bills since OTA's started. As far as I know that is where they plan on having him play. Unless they are switching to a 3-4, and I have not heard a thing about that up here in chicken wing land. Cool. For some reason, I got confused and was thinking the Bills were in a 3-4. He might do well as a DE, but, when watching him in College, he just seemed like an absolute perfect fit as a 3-4 OLB. That said, in a 4-3, I do believe his best chance is to bulk up and play DE. Perhaps I should follow things closer before spouting off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__HAUSE__ Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 Cool. For some reason, I got confused and was thinking the Bills were in a 3-4. He might do well as a DE, but, when watching him in College, he just seemed like an absolute perfect fit as a 3-4 OLB. That said, in a 4-3, I do believe his best chance is to bulk up and play DE. Perhaps I should follow things closer before spouting off Every other team in the AFC east is running a 3-4, not the Bills though. Hey, I should be thankful you even know about him. If my team had six trophy's, I would not even be following any other teams.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopher Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 Every other team in the AFC east is running a 3-4, not the Bills though. Hey, I should be thankful you even know about him. If my team had six trophy's, I would not even be following any other teams.. Menudo is a PSU fan as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Cheezhead Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 Yeah, I really don't get the idea of him bulking up to 250. That makes zero sense for him. The best 3-4 OLB's play at around 215-225 with speed off the edges. Since you watch a 3-4 team all the time, I'd assume you were either drunk when you wrote that or being sarcastic. Not sure, but in either case, almost every 3-4 OLB in the league weighs at least 245 lbs. Maybin clearly couldn't play NFL OLB or DE at 220, so he did what he needed to and bulked up. Problem is, when he ran the 40 at 250, he barely broke 5 seconds flat. That's why I don't think you can really evaluate him. As good as he looked on tape -- at 220 -- I wouldn't have touched him until the 4th round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byron2112 Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 Maybin clearly couldn't play NFL OLB or DE at 220, so he did what he needed to and bulked up. Problem is, when he ran the 40 at 250, he barely broke 5 seconds flat. That's why I don't think you can really evaluate him. As good as he looked on tape -- at 220 -- I wouldn't have touched him until the 4th round. Is that for real? Pretty scary for the Bills... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menudo Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 Since you watch a 3-4 team all the time, I'd assume you were either drunk when you wrote that or being sarcastic. Not sure, but in either case, almost every 3-4 OLB in the league weighs at least 245 lbs. Maybin clearly couldn't play NFL OLB or DE at 220, so he did what he needed to and bulked up. Problem is, when he ran the 40 at 250, he barely broke 5 seconds flat. That's why I don't think you can really evaluate him. As good as he looked on tape -- at 220 -- I wouldn't have touched him until the 4th round. Just a dopey moment on my part. Not sure where my head was when I typed that. I guess my head was back in the Greg Lloyd days and things have changed since then. You make a great point on how he slowed up when he put on the pounds. The Bills drafted him based on the quickness he showed, but, that quickness came at a weight that is under-sized by NFL standards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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