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Ladanian: Is he worth the 6th-8th pick?


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It seems that after the top four backs (AP, Mojo, M. Turner and Forte) are picked, the uncertainty begins. Chris Johnson does split time with LenDale, S Jax does play for the Rams, and L.T. is aging. It seems that L.T. is hanging aroun 6th-8th pick: Is he worth that pick and who is equal or in his tier at RB or do you consider WR? 12 team league, NFL performance. Please advise. And yes, I am Scooby's husband for those that know her. :wacko:

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Welcome Scooby's hubby. This happens to be the wrong forum to post this as there is a separate advice forum. However, after the four you mentioned SJax and Chris Johnson seem to be likely candidates to go before you start seeing WRs come off the board. I also believe that getting LT for one of the 6-8 picks is a fine selection as I think he'll rebound this year being healthy again and could very well be a Top 3-5 RB. I think taking LT right after the Top 4 are gone is fine as well. Some may disagree but that's what makes FF so great.

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Welcome Scooby's hubby. This happens to be the wrong forum to post this as there is a separate advice forum. However, after the four you mentioned SJax and Chris Johnson seem to be likely candidates to go before you start seeing WRs come off the board. I also believe that getting LT for one of the 6-8 picks is a fine selection as I think he'll rebound this year being healthy again and could very well be a Top 3-5 RB. I think taking LT right after the Top 4 are gone is fine as well. Some may disagree but that's what makes FF so great.

 

Which forum is for "Draft Strategy", value of picks, positions, and rankings?

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Which forum is for "Draft Strategy", value of picks, positions, and rankings?

That would be the advice forum. There a several guys that spend a good amount of time responding to these types of questions.

Also Welcome aboard. Tell your honey I am still interested to know what they found out about her friend.

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LT's risk/reward quotient absoluetly fits him in that slot.

 

The guy who doesn't seem to fit in that top 4 you named is Turner, who is dropping like a rock for some reason. His work load last year was relatively high, but I can't figure out how he falls out of the top 4 with Ryan entering the second year in his learning curve and the addition of Gonzalez figuring to open some wider running lanes in what has become a prolific offense. Turner figures to be capable of a lesser workload this year and still be capable of superb numbers.

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Word is he's in great shape this year. The reward is huge so I would say yes but SJax and Gore could be good picks too.

 

True and yet from my experiences so far this year, Gore is falling into the 2nd round in a great deal of drafts.

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True and yet from my experiences so far this year, Gore is falling into the 2nd round in a great deal of drafts.

 

 

MFL ADP has this

 

1. Peterson, Adrian MIN RB 1.53 1 4 104

2. Jones-Drew, Maurice JAC RB 3.21 1 21 103

3. Forte, Matt CHI RB 4.39 1 20 108

4. Turner, Michael ATL RB 6.91 1 47 109

5. Fitzgerald, Larry ARI WR 7.54 1 37 105

6. Jackson, Steven STL RB 7.65 2 36 104

7. Johnson, Chris TEN RB 7.92 1 24 105

8. Johnson, Andre HOU WR 11.10 1 43 108

9. Johnson, Calvin DET WR 11.34 1 30 104

10. Williams, DeAngelo CAR RB 12.41 2 42 109

11. Gore, Frank SFO RB 12.52 4 41 106

12. Slaton, Steve HOU RB 16.17 2 52 106

13. Tomlinson, LaDainian SDC RB 18.96 2 85 108

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I'm still taking DWill ahead of LT, but I don't think he should fall much further than that. Truth is, nobody has any freakin' clue. LT may be done. He may have a few years left. He could be the #1 back this year. He could also easily fall from the top 20. LIterally anything could happen. We won't know until we see it. It is all about gut-feeling at this point. My gut tells me he will play pretty well.

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MFL ADP has this

 

1. Peterson, Adrian MIN RB 1.53 1 4 104

2. Jones-Drew, Maurice JAC RB 3.21 1 21 103

3. Forte, Matt CHI RB 4.39 1 20 108

4. Turner, Michael ATL RB 6.91 1 47 109

5. Fitzgerald, Larry ARI WR 7.54 1 37 105

6. Jackson, Steven STL RB 7.65 2 36 104

7. Johnson, Chris TEN RB 7.92 1 24 105

8. Johnson, Andre HOU WR 11.10 1 43 108

9. Johnson, Calvin DET WR 11.34 1 30 104

10. Williams, DeAngelo CAR RB 12.41 2 42 109

11. Gore, Frank SFO RB 12.52 4 41 106

12. Slaton, Steve HOU RB 16.17 2 52 106

13. Tomlinson, LaDainian SDC RB 18.96 2 85 108

 

I'd switch LT & Chris Johnson, an then switch DWill with Gore and feel very comfortable with that as a start for a cheatsheet.

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I'm still taking DWill ahead of LT, but I don't think he should fall much further than that. Truth is, nobody has any freakin' clue. LT may be done. He may have a few years left. He could be the #1 back this year. He could also easily fall from the top 20. LIterally anything could happen. We won't know until we see it. It is all about gut-feeling at this point. My gut tells me he will play pretty well.

Exactly. I have misgivings about drafting LT too high this year due to his potential for injury. As I stated in another thread he is a high reward/high risk pick this year. He's a second round pick IMO.

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Gore TD's in THREE starting seasons = 23

DWill TD's in ONE starting season = 20

 

If I were drafting behind you and you took Gore over DWill, I would feel obligated to send you a "Thank You" card.

 

:wacko:

 

Do you always expect players to hit or exceed career highs the following season? Good luck with that...and you're welcome - the pleasure is all mine.

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Gore TD's in THREE starting seasons = 23

DWill TD's in ONE starting season = 20

 

If I were drafting behind you and you took Gore over DWill, I would feel obligated to send you a "Thank You" card.

 

And since you are setting a three-year standard, here you go:

 

Gore (past 3 years)

 

45 games

3833 yds rushing

19 rushing TDs

157 catches

1294 yds receiving

4 receiving TDs

 

Williams (past 3 years)

 

45 games

2733 yds rushing

23 rushing TDs

78 catches

609 yds receiving

4 receiving TDs

 

So which RB is the better option again? That's a 155 FF pt difference in favor of Gore in a non-ppr league, and a 233 FF pt difference in a ppr league.

 

Now look at this coming year - Gore is the hoss of the 49ers with virtually no competition, whereas Williams is looking at sharing time with not only Stewart now, but Goodson also.

 

Thanks for playing.

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When it comes to deciding where LT should fall i fell it is a classic case of risk VS reward. He has the potential to dominate the league, and win you the championship, or at worst be a top 20 player. I feel that taking that chance with pick 4-8 lines your team up very nicely and would allow for you to pick another low risk high reward player in round 2. All these unknown entities are what makes fantasy football so great. Anyone can play, but it seems like the same people win ever year

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Exactly. I have misgivings about drafting LT too high this year due to his potential for injury. As I stated in another thread he is a high reward/high risk pick this year. He's a second round pick IMO.

 

 

If you get him in the 2nd round, consider yourself blessed.

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:wacko:

 

 

If you get him in the 2nd round, consider yourself blessed.

All I'm saying is I hope all of those who draft him in the first round are rewarded all season with an uninjured LT who regains the speed he lost last year and has holes to run through that were nonexistent in 2008. Otherwise it's going to be a long, long year for LT owners.

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MFL ADP has this

 

1. Peterson, Adrian MIN RB 1.53 1 4 104

2. Jones-Drew, Maurice JAC RB 3.21 1 21 103

3. Forte, Matt CHI RB 4.39 1 20 108

4. Turner, Michael ATL RB 6.91 1 47 109

5. Fitzgerald, Larry ARI WR 7.54 1 37 105

6. Jackson, Steven STL RB 7.65 2 36 104

7. Johnson, Chris TEN RB 7.92 1 24 105

8. Johnson, Andre HOU WR 11.10 1 43 108

9. Johnson, Calvin DET WR 11.34 1 30 104

10. Williams, DeAngelo CAR RB 12.41 2 42 109

11. Gore, Frank SFO RB 12.52 4 41 106

12. Slaton, Steve HOU RB 16.17 2 52 106

13. Tomlinson, LaDainian SDC RB 18.96 2 85 108

 

No Portis???

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All I'm saying is I hope all of those who draft him in the first round are rewarded all season with an uninjured LT who regains the speed he lost last year and has holes to run through that were nonexistent in 2008. Otherwise it's going to be a long, long year for LT owners.

Can you (or any other SD homer) tell me about the line and FB situation? I think Neal leaving made a big impact on LT's numbers last year. Has the team made any changes on the line or at FB to make us hopeful of a better year?

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Can you (or any other SD homer) tell me about the line and FB situation? I think Neal leaving made a big impact on LT's numbers last year. Has the team made any changes on the line or at FB to make us hopeful of a better year?

The hope for a better year rests largely on a lack of serious injuries and the improved performance from the right side of the line and the FB position.

 

LT: Marcus McNeill is a Pro Bowl-caliber offensive tackle, but last year he had a neck injury that hampered him most of the season. Most reports are that his neck still isn't 100%.

 

LG: Kris Dielman is solid and returns.

 

C: Nick Hardwick is very good but had a foot injury last year that hampered him for the first half of the season. He needs to stay healthy.

 

RG: Mike Goff is gone and Kynan Forney is penciled in as the starter but could lose his job if rookie Louis Vasquez develops quickly as expected. Big question mark here at this position.

 

RT: Jeromey Clary returns as the starter. Most experts expected the Chargers to draft a high-profile tackle, but that didn't happen. Clary's run blocking was okay last season, but the knock on him was his sometimes inadequate pass protection.

 

FB: Mike Tolbert and Jacob Hester are the returning veterans. In 2008 neither of them was impressive in run blocking. Neal was definitely missed.

 

Last year I watched opposing defenses stack the line against the run on the left side and blitz more on the right side. We'll see if that trend continues in 2009.

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