Qball86 Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 (edited) Gotta love when the "pros" chime in. Two out of three on the panel are taking Turner over Peterson. The sane one at least said he can't believe they are even having the conversation. God I'd love to be in his league. Change his nickname from Stink to Bye week. Edited to remove a reference to Forte. I was momentarily blinded by Schlereths ineptness. Edited August 22, 2009 by Qball86 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Muto Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 Got to love that Peterson wasn't even close to the #1 player in scoring in any format last year. Williams and Turner both above him. So why should everyone pick Peterson #1 ? Because everyone says you should ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Muto Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 EPSN Scoring DeAngelo Williams, Car RB 274 1518 18 22 30 121 2 0 0 0 272 pts Michael Turner, Atl RB 377 1699 17 6 9 41 0 0 2 0 265 pts Adrian Peterson, Min RB 363 1760 10 21 39 125 0 0 4 0 233 pts I don't play in ESPN leagues but the show is ESPN so using their scoring Peterson wasn't even close to either WIlliams or Turner. So I can see why someone would take Turner over Peterson. Turner is a TD machine. I love the statement when people say "I wish I was in your league" I have said that myself at times and it seems it always comes back to bite me when I say that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbimm Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 Got to love that Peterson wasn't even close to the #1 player in scoring in any format last year. Williams and Turner both above him. So why should everyone pick Peterson #1 ? Because everyone says you should ? For me Peterson is the most likely to put up similar #'s year after year. That is why I took him #1 in MSHB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorttynaz Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 Got to love that Peterson wasn't even close to the #1 player in scoring in any format last year. Williams and Turner both above him. So why should everyone pick Peterson #1 ? Because everyone says you should ? Cause Peterson has the highest ceiling. He's playing behind one of the best O-lines in all of football, now has a HOF QB to keep defenses from stacking 8 in the box, and he's been working on his pass catching ability out of the backfield. Regardless of who people "say" you should take, I'd take him in a heartbeat if I had the #1 pick - ANY league format. MJD in a PPR league has history on his side, but he's small and has never carried the full load. I personally have a bad feeling about MJD this year - no specific reason - JUST a gut feeling. DWill has J Stew there to split carries with. While he may get 60/40 over Stewart, teams will be playing more men in the box. Put your best DB on Smith and cheat the safety his way - you've shut down the offense... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peepinmofo Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 For me Peterson is the most likely to put up similar #'s year after year. That is why I took him #1 in MSHB. Cmon now... You cant make any sense if Henry Muto says it. I mean, he is Henry Muto. HENRY MUTO!!! Why try to use logic when it is clear AP wasnt near the top in any format? I mean, he cant possibly do any better this year can he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 (edited) Yeah Peterson is a no-brainer #1 since RBs putting up that many yds usually do it again the next year. Or was it his amazing 10 whole TDs everyone is peeing their pants about? Or his known history of getting nicked up maybe? Or that 20 catches/year thing he's got going? Yeah he gets a boost from Favre but not all that much - calling him a "no brainer" first pick and ripping on anyone who thinks otherwise is pretty stupid. This isn't LT or Faulk in their prime we're talking about. Not saying he isn't a great pick, but In PPR I'll take Forte first, thanks. Edited August 22, 2009 by BeeR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qball86 Posted August 23, 2009 Author Share Posted August 23, 2009 I love the statement when people say "I wish I was in your league" I have said that myself at times and it seems it always comes back to bite me when I say that. yeah, it does me too. Murphy is a d!ck. Yeah Peterson is a no-brainer #1 since RBs putting up that many yds usually do it again the next year. Or was it his amazing 10 whole TDs everyone is peeing their pants about? Or his known history of getting nicked up maybe? Or that 20 catches/year thing he's got going? Yeah he gets a boost from Favre but not all that much - calling him a "no brainer" first pick and ripping on anyone who thinks otherwise is pretty stupid. This isn't LT or Faulk in their prime we're talking about. Not saying he isn't a great pick, but In PPR I'll take Forte first, thanks. I'm not sure where you are going with your first line here? Are you saying last year has no influence on this years rankings? And I don't mind the criticism, really I don't, but you haven't made an argument for anyone, just against AP. Your argument can't be that Forte goes number 1 because AP doesn't. There has to be more to it than that so where is it? anyway, I'll eat some crow, I was hungry anyhow... Maybe I do need to re-think some things about this years draft. I have the #2 pick and so far everyone in the league has asked who I'm taking with "AP off the board", our draft hasn't started yet btw. AP seemed like a clear #1, but we don't count ppr and league scoring will have an obvious impact on who's #1. Now that I read these posts maybe I need to do more homework and re-think my rankings. Having the #2 pick in one league and #4 in my other, I looked at the top 4 and came up with AP, MJD, Forte and Turner. In a standard performance scoring league let me hear an argument for a different order. I'm open to other opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 Putting Turner at #1 is at least defensible. When 2/3rds of the NFL analysts pick Brady, Brees, or Manning as the top pick in start 1 QB leagues you know that they don't understand FF in the least but will sure fill your ears about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 Got to love that Peterson wasn't even close to the #1 player in scoring in any format last year. Williams and Turner both above him. So why should everyone pick Peterson #1 ? Because everyone says you should ? Because other FFers understand concepts that you don't? Things like consistency, risk, and ability? I'm not sure why you keep making condescending posts like this when you clearly have a difficult time understanding simple concepts. You stepped in it and continue to do so with S Jackson and now you've apparently decided to up the ante. If you spent more time listening and learning and less time running your cakehole you wouldn't draw such derision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42zero Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 (edited) I like Turner over AP as well Edited August 23, 2009 by 42zero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 now has a HOF QB to keep defenses from stacking 8 in the box, If you believe that Favre will prevent teams from putting 8 in the box, you're a fool. People know that Peterson is the monster that can beat them. Favre with the Berrian/Rice/Harvin wrecking crew have to prove it before teams will respect it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 I like Turner over AP as well I like Forte and MJD over both of them in PPR leagues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trots Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 I like Forte and MJD over both of them in PPR leagues. I just have a feeling that MJD will disappoint this year. He will not live up to his top 5 billing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tega Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 I don't see Turner doing quite as well this year with a tougher schedule and with Tony G getting the call in the redzone a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 He doesn't have to do as well. He could put up lesser numbers and still be a top RB. Anyway you want FF stupidity from the TV morons, check NFL.com (I know, I can't believe I was browsing NFL.com either, what a joke - hey it's a lazy Sunday morning) ie the video of who not to draft. After impressing us with gems about how guys like Eli Manning and Cassell won't light it up, some yutz says avoid Peyton Manning because Harrison is gone and Manning "pointed a finger" at the organization earlier in the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LayLow Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 (edited) "Michael Turner ran over some of the worst run defenses in the NFL last year. He rushed for 1,699 rushing yards and 17 touchdowns in 2009, but a good portion of his success came against five of the seven lowest-ranked run defenses in the league in Detroit, Oakland, Kansas City, St. Louis and Green Bay. Turner totaled 792 rushing yards and seven touchdowns against those teams. That's almost half of his production, and this year he doesn't face one run defense ranked in the bottom 10 based on last year's totals." I have turner at 3-4 because there is no one else to put there really AP MJD Forte/Turner Edited August 23, 2009 by LayLow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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