Robash Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 so what happens if he does go back into the draft. do the niners get screwed out of their first or are the compensated in some way? they save about 20 million in guaranteed money from the contract they would of had to give him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Is anybody anywhere on team Crabtree in this debate? It seems pretty obvious that the guy is getting some horrible advice from his agent who is just stroking Crabtree's ego and telling him how much more money he should be worth. If he sits the entire season and re-enters next year's draft, I could almost guarantee there is no way he would be drafted higher than he was this season. He'll end up with an even smaller contract and he'll have made zero money this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westvirginia Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 I don't get why people get so upset at this situation. (I can understand why a SFO fan would be irked.) Its a job. He wants to be paid a certain amount of money. His potential employer doesn't want to pay that amount of money. So Crabtree doesn't work. Other than to perhaps his family, Crabtree doesn't owe anything to anybody when it comes to playing for the Niners. So what if he doesn't play? It's his choice. Just like its the Niners' choice not to sign him. I saw this kind of thing with respect to Barry Sanders. Exactly. And I'm not sold that it's just this contract, from what I've read. Let's say you're the best truck driver there is. Always early with loads, never an accident, never a ticket, always plan your routes well, and have a record of below-average fuel consumption. Why would you go to work for a company that uses mainly rail transport, and all you're doing is local from the warehouse to the train depot? Kinda the same for Crabtree, IMO. This contract slot might be OK, but in 3-4 years, he's not convinced his talents will be showcased well enough to earn that big payday he wants. If Singletary had his way he'd never throw the ball. And none of the QB's on that roster have that much ability either. So I can see it. It's his future, not mine. And as for the whining about "this economy" blah blah blah - then put your money where your mouth is and go help someone less well off than you. There's always someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk37 Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Crabtree is an idiot i hope his career sucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC94 Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Why wouldn't the 49er's just trade his rights for a some picks next year. To a team like the Jets or Ravens... Unless the 49ers are willing to trade him cheap, I don't see why any team would want him. If it's going to cost a 1st and a big, fat contract I think most teams would rather go after Boldin, Edwards or even Marshall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby's Hubby Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Can you say Jerry Jones? Go Jerry, Go Jerry... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby's Hubby Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 In 2010, of course...and Crabtree cannot work out for anyone (W/o 49er permission) until midnight before the draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hammock Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 This has to be on crabtree. If he wanted to play, he would be in uniform. Not bad for a rookie contract...4 mil per year . That would be really funny if he sat out the year and got drafted in the late 1st or 2nd round next year. link Trade him to Oakland. They would certainly be willing to give up a few first rounders for a ditch head who won't even sign. They might even throw in a few seconds if he does report. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budlitebrad Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Why would you go to work for a company that uses mainly rail transport, and all you're doing is local from the warehouse to the train depot? Yea, well, this isn't a trucking company. It's the NFL and it's the only company in town. The kid is a moron. The way he is going, he won't play this year and lose an accrued season towards FA. The 49ers can't trade his rights anymore, so he is stuck with them until the 2010 draft. If he goes back into the draft pool, he'll be taken MUCH later after guys like Dez Bryant. Why would a team take him in the first when he's been sitting out a year and they have no recent tape/scouting info? How does he know the next team will be a better situation anyway? And you gotta figure that his rookie year won't be that impressive, since WRs need time to develop. Plus there might be a lockout, so that's another lost season in 2011. What if he gets injured again? He'll probably be wishing that he took the 49ers first offer with the bigger signing bonus in that case. The guys on Sirius NFL radio have the right idea that the 49ers should shave 1/16th off the offer for each week he misses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 The guys on Sirius NFL radio have the right idea that the 49ers should shave 1/16th off the offer for each week he misses. He would already lose 1/17 of his salary for each week he misses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdrudge Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 He'll end up with an even smaller contract and he'll have made zero money this year.Not to mention that he'll be a year removed from any real experience and every NFL team will know that he's still going to want to be paid as a top 10 2009 receiver despite being drafted later in the 2010 draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Exactly. And I'm not sold that it's just this contract, from what I've read. Let's say you're the best truck driver there is. Always early with loads, never an accident, never a ticket, always plan your routes well, and have a record of below-average fuel consumption. Why would you go to work for a company that uses mainly rail transport, and all you're doing is local from the warehouse to the train depot? Kinda the same for Crabtree, IMO. This contract slot might be OK, but in 3-4 years, he's not convinced his talents will be showcased well enough to earn that big payday he wants. If Singletary had his way he'd never throw the ball. And none of the QB's on that roster have that much ability either. So I can see it. It's his future, not mine. And as for the whining about "this economy" blah blah blah - then put your money where your mouth is and go help someone less well off than you. There's always someone. Problem is that Crabtree has never done a thing in this league. Your analogy only works with underpaid guys who have proven it at THIS level. Crabtree maybe the next Andre Johnson... Better chance of him being the next Mike WIlliams though. You have to pay your dues before you pull stuff like this. The niners have the choice of allowing Trabtree to participate in the combine, or making him sit it out. Zero chance he gets to compete at the combine, further dropping his draft status. Teams are going to look at what happened with Mike Williams sitting out for a year, then trying to compete at the NFL level. He's going to drop far. My question is this-- What happens when he falls to late in the first or early second and a team offers him half of what the Niners are offering? Is he going to holdout again, because surely he's worth 40 million, right? He's taking a very bold stance, and I predict and hope that he falls flat on his face. The game doesn't need him. He needs to realize he needs the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Unless the 49ers are willing to trade him cheap, I don't see why any team would want him. If it's going to cost a 1st and a big, fat contract I think most teams would rather go after Boldin, Edwards or even Marshall. I don't think anyone will be willing to give up a first on Boldin after this season. He's a year older, and year more fragile. No one offered a first for Braylon during the off season either. Not sure why they'd do it now. And the Broncos are now talking extension with Marshall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Smales Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Why would a team take him in the first when he's been sitting out a year and they have no recent tape/scouting info? How does he know the next team will be a better situation anyway? With the 10th pick in the 2005 NFL draft the Detroit Lions take Mike Williams ... If Millen (or someone who "studied" under him) is in a front office it could happen. Doubtful, but possible. I forgot that Gore was 3rd rounder and Marion Barber was a 4th rounder in that draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairQb101868 Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Well this isn't exactly like accepting a desk job at an accounting firm. While the players are not forced to sign with the team that drafted them, I think it is fair to say that it is expected. True or not, this just looks like a whiny kid that is mad that he wasn't the first receiver picked. .................... I agree, he was picked where he was picked, like Parcells always said you are what your record says you are and he was drafted where he was drafted. Who cares if HE thinks he was a top 5 talent. He was drafted where he was drafted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Wow I didn't realize he was property of a team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devildog0311 Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 I would love to see him sit out this season and come in next years draft and compete with all of next years WR's. I would hope he gets drafted in an even lower spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
necroscope6 Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 there always seems to be one player a year to do this or close to it. I'm not opposed to putting ceilings on rookie contracts, a la the nba. This would prevent this type of situation from happening. Also, don't these college kids have something akin to a guidance counselor? Just someone to sit them down and say "listen, nimrod, theres a certain way to carry yourself now that you're about to go pro"? If Dungy wouldve gotten to Vick earlier, maybe hes still in atlanta. Most likely not, but i hope u pick up what i'm layin down. and yes, crabtree is a dick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Also, don't these college kids have something akin to a guidance counselor? Just someone to sit them down and say "listen, nimrod, theres a certain way to carry yourself now that you're about to go pro"? He does... Problem is that it's Deon Sanders. Prime Time is setting him up for failure,. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Is he already wealthy or something? He's gambling $20,000,000 here. That alone is ridiculous. Does he really think he's going to recoup that amount of cash? Or is he just a ghetto thug who can't see past being "dissed"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABearWithFurniture Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Is he already wealthy or something? He's gambling $20,000,000 here. That alone is ridiculous. Does he really think he's going to recoup that amount of cash? Or is he just a ghetto thug who can't see past being "dissed"? Supposedly, his agent fronted him a million...and rumour has it he's living in Deion's pool cabana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Is he already wealthy or something? No, he's from a poor part of the Dallas area. and rumour has it he's living in Deion's pool cabana Which is about 15 minutes from here... He's got a football field in his backyard. It's insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5Rings Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 (edited) The niners need a new GM for dumb stuff like this. Singletary is going to run 60% of the time, we should have spent that pick on improving the O line. fail :shakeshead: Edited September 13, 2009 by 5Rings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
untateve Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 wurd....i'd like ta see Crabtree and Jack Lambert in a Phone Booth I didn't know that nuke was into gay porn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuke'em ttg Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 I didn't know that nuke was into gay porn. why is that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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