kickureface Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 (edited) lets say 12 teams. what are you doing with your waiver, or done already? of course, list what waiver you have. i've always saved my waiver for the magic drop of a top tier player from a nervous owner. but i always get burned (as in having waiver 1). what do you guys do? anyone with experience please shed light on when to use it! i have a waiver 5, 6ish and i'm thinking i should have used it on manningham >;[ sorry: should clarify- waiver with last pick getting waiver 1, etc, and dropping to last when used Edited September 23, 2009 by kickureface Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Our waivers reset each week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Our waivers reset each week Never understood why this method was used. Why on earth do you keep rewarding the teams that either (1) drafted lousy or (2) are lousy owners? How are the teams that are just a notch below the elite teams in your league ever supposed to improve via the waiver wire if they never get first crack at the best free agents? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalEmpire.com Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Never understood why this method was used. Why on earth do you keep rewarding the teams that either (1) drafted lousy or (2) are lousy owners? How are the teams that are just a notch below the elite teams in your league ever supposed to improve via the waiver wire if they never get first crack at the best free agents? Agreed. We do this in our money league, and I think I am going to make a push next year to NOT reset waivers. Basically a team that starts 0-2 can begin to load up on the breakout players and jump right back into contention. Meanwhile me sitting at 1-1 will probably not get anyone that could improve my team. I'll have to work trades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickureface Posted September 23, 2009 Author Share Posted September 23, 2009 ok. any help from the original question? :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Smales Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Agreed. We do this in our money league, and I think I am going to make a push next year to NOT reset waivers. Basically a team that starts 0-2 can begin to load up on the breakout players and jump right back into contention. Meanwhile me sitting at 1-1 will probably not get anyone that could improve my team. I'll have to work trades. You just have to jump on players a bit earlier than the others if you are at 1-1. I've done this for years and while somettimes your pickups are duds, every now and again you hit. This is where some of the articles on the Huddle and their WW weekly stuff really helps IMO. WRT the original question, I haven't played in a league that doesn't reset waivers in a while, but my thoughts on this are if you see a guy you really like and have a roster spot to stick a flyer on go for it. If your league has decent owners no one of value or potential value gets dropped. Could be by virtue of having a 19 man roster size too though. I don't see A Gonzalez for instance being dropped in my main league, but he was dropped in one of my leagues. I know alot of your decision on this would have to be based on previous experience with the owners in the league. If always waiting for someone to be dropped never works, it's time to try something new. Hope that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deacon Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Never understood why this method was used. Why on earth do you keep rewarding the teams that either (1) drafted lousy or (2) are lousy owners? How are the teams that are just a notch below the elite teams in your league ever supposed to improve via the waiver wire if they never get first crack at the best free agents? We do reset and I think it's the thing to do. It keeps our league competitive -- if you're hit by some big injuries early (or disappointments) you can get back in it. But there's no guarantee -- just because you get first crack, doesn't mean you get the best pickup. We charge $5 per transaction, so that sometimes enters in. And we used to limit the number of buys, but don't anymore. The guy who is first on the wire usually takes the most obvious option, but that doesn't always pan out. I've seen somebody disappointed because they couldn't get that player and "settled" for someone else who then goes on to have a great season (and of course they congratulate themselves on their wise choice). If you're just a "notch below the elite" you probably don't need to improve that much and there's probably somebody out there that next week you'll be saying "why didn't I grab that guy." I agree with Judge Smales -- this is where some of the huddle stuff is at its best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 the guy who had the 9th out of 10th pick this week got probably the hottest wire pickup this week. I see nothing wrong with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Furley Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Blind bidding on players with a free agency budget is the best way to go I feel. If there is a player I really want, I'll have to put my money where my mouth is. For example, we run the bidding twice a week. Like every oher league, Manningham was everyone's target. Out of our $100 budget for the season, the guy who got Manningham paid $36. I bid $24 and thought I'd get him. Makes things very fair regardless of what your record is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deacon Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Blind bidding on players with a free agency budget is the best way to go I feel. If there is a player I really want, I'll have to put my money where my mouth is. For example, we run the bidding twice a week. Like every oher league, Manningham was everyone's target. Out of our $100 budget for the season, the guy who got Manningham paid $36. I bid $24 and thought I'd get him. Makes things very fair regardless of what your record is. That probably is the best -- it adds to the strategy of the game. We (or should I say the commisiioner - me) just haven't wanted to go to the trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt770 Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Blind bidding on players with a free agency budget is the best way to go I feel. If there is a player I really want, I'll have to put my money where my mouth is. For example, we run the bidding twice a week. Like every oher league, Manningham was everyone's target. Out of our $100 budget for the season, the guy who got Manningham paid $36. I bid $24 and thought I'd get him. Makes things very fair regardless of what your record is. Is the $100 actual money paid into the prize pool? What happens if an owner doesn't spend his whole budget for the year, it's lost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Is the $100 actual money paid into the prize pool? What happens if an owner doesn't spend his whole budget for the year, it's lost? Usually not. You would have fantasy money to spend (all teams alloted 100 fantasy dollars). For a redraft, any money not spent is lost. For a dynasty, any unspent money carries over to the next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Is the $100 actual money paid into the prize pool? What happens if an owner doesn't spend his whole budget for the year, it's lost? I assume it's just "play money" that you use for bidding. IMO this is the ONLY way to run waivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Country Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Is the $100 actual money paid into the prize pool? What happens if an owner doesn't spend his whole budget for the year, it's lost? For most leagues I have played in, no, it is not actual money, it is "FA Bucks" or whatever you want to call it. I did play in one league where bids were in actual cash. No limit on how much teams could spend. Teams put down an initial deposit of $50. If they got close to the limit, they;d have to deposit more money or they couldn't bid. I do not reccomend that system, as it puts teams on different playing fields, especially if you have owners from varied economic circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubdaddy Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 We do the "FA Bucks" in our league and I like it...it adds another element of strategy to the game...we had a guy bid $75 on a RB last year in week 2...and then when he needed to pick up players the rest of the year...he always lost out to another team who was able to bid more $$$... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INTOXICATED Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Just got Mcnabb bieng 6th on the WW. Seeing all the teams that were higher had good Qbs and good backups. Worked out good since I got brees and no other backup lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynCrew Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Blind bidding on players with a free agency budget is the best way to go I feel. If there is a player I really want, I'll have to put my money where my mouth is. For example, we run the bidding twice a week. Like every oher league, Manningham was everyone's target. Out of our $100 budget for the season, the guy who got Manningham paid $36. I bid $24 and thought I'd get him. Makes things very fair regardless of what your record is. EXACTLY. This is hands down my favorite system and I push for it now in all my leagues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Muto Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 My online leauges all use blind bidding. My local leagues have changed throughout the years. Right now 2 leagues do worst to first and 1 does bidding. A few years back I used to do least amount of waivers made to most amount so if a team had not make a waiver all year and the 2nd most waivers made was 5 he could have the #1 pick for the next 4 weeks as long as he only made 1 move per week and so on. In my dynasty league I tried to get them to go from worst record to bidding and most refused they wanted the worse teams to have the higher picks every week to try and get better for the future years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 We do auction draft, and blind auction free agency with a keeper/dynasty component where salaries increase for kept players according to a bunch of factors. 14-team league with 16-man roster. We start 3 WRs. We give everyone $30 free and after that you can go as high as another $20 (but everyone of those extra $20 would cost you real money towards the prize pool). Everyone has personal strategies, but I use the waiver wire liberally but only on cheaper pickups. An owner dropped Maclin, and I picked him up off waivers. Gonzalez just went out there. His owner's team needed a seriously shakeup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balzac Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 If I have the opportunity to grab a player off of waivers who can really help me in the coming week, I use my waiver priority. I have a gaping hole at flex this week and Choice was there on waivers, so I blew my #2 priority to get him. May not have been the greatest move in retrospect if MBIII plays this week, but I have no regrets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Choice was there on waivers, so I blew my #2 priority to get him. May not have been the greatest move in retrospect if MBIII plays this week, but I have no regrets. spent a bunch of "dollars" in 2 leagues for him myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balzac Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 spent a bunch of "dollars" in 2 leagues for him myself. all you can do is make moves based on information available. how were we to know that MBIII is monster poonan who takes dives and gives up TDs (and possibly the ball) when he feels a tweak in his leg? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Furley Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 (edited) Is the $100 actual money paid into the prize pool? What happens if an owner doesn't spend his whole budget for the year, it's lost? No, it's not actual money. Just like many of the others have posted. Since it is an auction/keeper league, the price that the player was bought for through free agency will be the price to keep the player for the following year. It really makes things even more interesting. If you don't use all their money, it doesn't carry over for the following year. Edited September 24, 2009 by Ralph Furley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdrudge Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 Never understood why this method was used. Why on earth do you keep rewarding the teams that either (1) drafted lousy or (2) are lousy owners? How are the teams that are just a notch below the elite teams in your league ever supposed to improve via the waiver wire if they never get first crack at the best free agents?Wouldn't all your points apply to how the NFL determines draft order as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 Wouldn't all your points apply to how the NFL determines draft order as well? No, because in the NFL, they also have the option of open free agency. For example: Warrick Dunn might not want to play for the Lions, but rather hang on and hope a contender signs him in October. Point is, the player's can often decide where they want to play. The good teams often get better by garnering the attention of better free agents. PLus, the only players on waivers in the NFL are guys that are cut...they pass thru waivers the following day. In fantasy, that option does not exist. All players (even free agents) are on waivers. There is a set order for signing every player. If fantasy wanted to be like the NFL, it should be open free agency, and only players cut by other teams would have to pass thru waivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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