Caveman_Nick Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 I am just curious as to how the Denver fanbase is feeling about Josh McDaniels as their team sits at 3-0, is playing solid defense, and has normally vocal and disruptive players falling in line and towing the team concept. Are you done calling the guy McDummy yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh 0ne Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 I am just curious as to how the Denver fanbase is feeling about Josh McDaniels as their team sits at 3-0, is playing solid defense, and has normally vocal and disruptive players falling in line and towing the team concept. Are you done calling the guy McDummy yet? Dude, for reals? They beat the Bengals, Browns and Oakland. Whoop-dee-flippin-doo. The jackass came in, pissed off and got rid of the best arm in football, and almost did the same with a top 3 WR. They'll probably end up with 4 or 5 wins. The man is an asstard. Plain and simple. I'll put it to you this way, I think Childress is a better coach, and that guy couldn't out-coach Rich Kotite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicCEO Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 I am just curious as to how the Denver fanbase is feeling about Josh McDaniels as their team sits at 3-0, is playing solid defense, and has normally vocal and disruptive players falling in line and towing the team concept. Are you done calling the guy McDummy yet? The defense is doing great. There is no denying that. But, we've beaten Cincy, Cleveland, and the Raiders. That's the 25th, 31st, and 32nd ranked offenses in the league, and the 17th, 23rd, and 29th ranked offenses. It's a stretch to call those teams below average. And we still have a QB that can't throw a long ball or a fade in the end zone. I was pretty frustrated by Denver's inability to get the ball in from the 2 yard line yesterday. Upcoming schedule: - Dallas - New England - San Diego - Baltimore - Pittsburgh I would be pleasantly surprised if we were 4-4 after week 8. Feel free to mock me if I'm still underestimating them then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwallace49 Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 I am shocked how badly Royal has disappeared. the defense is playing VERY well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh 0ne Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 The defense is doing great. There is no denying that. But, we've beaten Cincy, Cleveland, and the Raiders. That's the 25th, 31st, and 32nd ranked offenses in the league, and the 17th, 23rd, and 29th ranked offenses. It's a stretch to call those teams below average. And we still have a QB that can't throw a long ball or a fade in the end zone. I was pretty frustrated by Denver's inability to get the ball in from the 2 yard line yesterday. Upcoming schedule: - Dallas - New England - San Diego - Baltimore - Pittsburgh I would be pleasantly surprised if we were 4-4 after week 8. Feel free to mock me if I'm still underestimating them then. You won't win one of those games imo. 3-5 is almost a certainty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted September 28, 2009 Author Share Posted September 28, 2009 The defense has given up 16 points on the year. BTW, Cincy is 2-1 and has beaten Green Bay and Pittsburgh, 2 preseason superbowl favorites. Say what you want about the opponents, but the team looks good and is playing tight football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 at getting caught up in the success of 3-0 DEN so far. The CIN game was a gift in that the CIN coaching staff made some major gaffes in the O scheming all game long and it still took a gift from the heavens and a major CIN D f-up to win that game. CLE and OAK barely qualify for NFL offenses. CLE has scored one O TD in the past 9 regular season games and OAK is averaging 12 ppg this year, which is down 27% from what they were scoring last year as the 3rd worst scoring team in the NFL. I'll take the schedule a bit further than that: 4 Sun Oct. 4 VS. DALLAS 5 Sun Oct.11 VS. NEW ENGLAND 6 Mon Oct.19 at San Diego 7 BYE WEEK 8 Sun Nov. 1 at Baltimore 9 Mon Nov. 9 VS. PITTSBURGH 10 Sun Nov.15 at Washington 11 Sun Nov.22 VS. SAN DIEGO 12 Thu Nov.26 VS. NEW YORK GIANTS 13 Sun Dec. 6 at Kansas City 14 Sun Dec.13 at Indianapolis The only 2 games where they might be considered a favorite would be the WAS & KC games, and they are both on the road. There's a very real possibility that they'll go 2-8 in the next 10 games, figuring that they find a way to win one of the winnable road games and either manage an upset or win the other winnable road game. That would put DEN at 5-8, with home game vs OAK & KC sandwiching a PHI road game. If they manage to win 7 games given how McHoody torpedoed the season before it even began, I'd call it very successful and surprising year. But the injury bug hasn't bitten yet and you've got an apparently very immature HC about to go through a very, very rough 10 games - meaning the wheels could come off the cart in a hurry. Let's revisit this in the middle of November and again in the middle of December before we make a judgment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billay Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 This thread just reminded me that CINN is 1 fluke play from being 3-0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 the defense has looked really good...against the browns and raiders. they lost the cincy game flat-out, but for one of the flukiest, luckiest plays in NFL history. I assume with the "normally vocal and disruptive players falling in line and towing the team concept" you're talking about marshall. marshall is almost certainly gone at the end of the year. and in the past, he wasn't disruptive, he was just out there catching 100+ balls every season and being one of the best wideouts in the league. marshall has one game with 4 catches and you want me to give mcdillhole credit for his handling of that situation? but hey, even if they are better than I think and they win 8 or nine games, I will hate that little d-bag and the way he came in here. he inherited some of the best offensive talent in the league, and the offense is garbage right now, save some aspects of the running game he left intact. the only thing I really give mcdumbf*ck credit for at this point is hiring mike nolan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicCEO Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 You won't win one of those games imo. 3-5 is almost a certainty. On any given Sunday... I'm thinking we have a chance of winning against New England, San Diego, or Pittsburgh. None of those guys are unbeatable. Hell, Cincy beat Pittsburgh, and San Diego almost lost to Oakland. BTW, Cincy is 2-1 and has beaten Green Bay and Pittsburgh, 2 preseason superbowl favorites. Say what you want about the opponents, but the team looks good and is playing tight football. I would not refer to the victory over Cincy as "tight football". I would think of it more as "pulling a miracle out of their ass". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwallace49 Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 More than anything, I have been very impressed with the defensive turnaround from one of the leagues worst to a decent looking unit so far. We will see how that projects from when they are playing from behind in the weeks ahead. And where the HELL is Eddie Royal?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAUgrad Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 at getting caught up in the success of 3-0 DEN so far. The CIN game was a gift in that the CIN coaching staff made some major gaffes in the O scheming all game long and it still took a gift from the heavens and a major CIN D f-up to win that game. CLE and OAK barely qualify for NFL offenses. CLE has scored one O TD in the past 9 regular season games and OAK is averaging 12 ppg this year, which is down 27% from what they were scoring last year as the 3rd worst scoring team in the NFL. I'll take the schedule a bit further than that: 4 Sun Oct. 4 VS. DALLAS 5 Sun Oct.11 VS. NEW ENGLAND 6 Mon Oct.19 at San Diego 7 BYE WEEK 8 Sun Nov. 1 at Baltimore 9 Mon Nov. 9 VS. PITTSBURGH 10 Sun Nov.15 at Washington 11 Sun Nov.22 VS. SAN DIEGO 12 Thu Nov.26 VS. NEW YORK GIANTS 13 Sun Dec. 6 at Kansas City 14 Sun Dec.13 at Indianapolis The only 2 games where they might be considered a favorite would be the WAS & KC games, and they are both on the road. There's a very real possibility that they'll go 2-8 in the next 10 games, figuring that they find a way to win one of the winnable road games and either manage an upset or win the other winnable road game. That would put DEN at 5-8, with home game vs OAK & KC sandwiching a PHI road game. If they manage to win 7 games given how McHoody torpedoed the season before it even began, I'd call it very successful and surprising year. But the injury bug hasn't bitten yet and you've got an apparently very immature HC about to go through a very, very rough 10 games - meaning the wheels could come off the cart in a hurry. Let's revisit this in the middle of November and again in the middle of December before we make a judgment. Unfortunately this is correct. Everyone knew that best case Denver would be 3-0, but the games have yet to begin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turf Smurf Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 So, who's willing to wager on the Dallas game? State your proposition here and we'll go from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bronco Billy Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 I'll own up right now and admit that I have been wrong. The D looks credible and is making plays. The O is doing just enough to get by. I'm still not crazy about this team and think they're in for some rough spots, but they are playing a LOT better than I thought they could. Ultimate irony: Marshall saved their arse today, and the announcers couldn't have raved more about how hard he worked in practice this week. My question: Why in the Seven Hells did it take so long to get Marshall to buy in, and why aren't they finding more ways to get him the ball? (and what is this repeated deep ball crap to Gaffney? C'mon! Gaffney?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh 0ne Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Blow me. I'm wrong once a decade, apparently this is one of those instances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted October 4, 2009 Author Share Posted October 4, 2009 Blow me. I'm wrong once a decade, apparently this is one of those instances. I think I'll pass, but I accept your admission... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted October 4, 2009 Author Share Posted October 4, 2009 I'll own up right now and admit that I have been wrong. The D looks credible and is making plays. The O is doing just enough to get by. I'm still not crazy about this team and think they're in for some rough spots, but they are playing a LOT better than I thought they could. Ultimate irony: Marshall saved their arse today, and the announcers couldn't have raved more about how hard he worked in practice this week. My question: Why in the Seven Hells did it take so long to get Marshall to buy in, and why aren't they finding more ways to get him the ball? (and what is this repeated deep ball crap to Gaffney? C'mon! Gaffney?) Two things... First, the offense is complicated. I imagine Orton is running a stripped down version of the NE offense. The more success he has, the more McDaniels will loosen the reigns. I think that by the end of the season the offense will look pretty good. Second, it's not easy for someone that's a prima donna to change their mindset. Big props to Marshall for buying in. As to why he is not getting the ball more, I just think is will take time for him to become the Randy Moss is this offense. It will happen...same thing as is holding the rest of the offense back. These are just my opinions...nothing really to back them up with. Just my speculation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 5 Sun Oct.11 VS. NEW ENGLAND -- no longer looks like an impossible task. Improbable? Sure.6 Mon Oct.19 at San Diego -- same. Very tough, but no longer that far fetched. 7 BYE WEEK 8 Sun Nov. 1 at Baltimore -- This and NYG are almost guaranteed losses. 9 Mon Nov. 9 VS. PITTSBURGH -- Same as NE and SD. 10 Sun Nov.15 at Washington -- Decent chance of a win. 11 Sun Nov.22 VS. SAN DIEGO -- pretty good. 12 Thu Nov.26 VS. NEW YORK GIANTS -- loss 13 Sun Dec. 6 at Kansas City -- questionable in KC. 14 Sun Dec.13 at Indianapolis -- loss At least three wins here. 3-6 in this stretch puts us at 7-6 and in contention for a playoff spot? hard to believe, but that looks about right. I still give mcMegan Foxles almost zero credit for this, he hasn't shown me anything except that the side of the ball he doesn't coach has shown up to play each week. the offense is terrible, despite having some of the best talent and one of the best OLs in the league. the cutler/orton disparity has been even more of a downgrade than I thought it would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Second, it's not easy for someone that's a prima donna to change their mindset. Big props to Marshall for buying in. I will point out again that marshall was never a problem before this season. he had his off-field issues with that chick, but he was never someone who had problems "buying in", he was just one of the best WRs in the league the last couple years. as it is, he is playing because he has no choice and is most likely looking for the first ticket out of town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted October 5, 2009 Author Share Posted October 5, 2009 I will point out again that marshall was never a problem before this season. he had his off-field issues with that chick, but he was never someone who had problems "buying in", he was just one of the best WRs in the league the last couple years. as it is, he is playing because he has no choice and is most likely looking for the first ticket out of town. Are you sure? Which is the truth?: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4469786 or http://www.denverpost.com/ci_13397543?source=rss We will never know because Shanny has too much class to say and is too smart to go burning bridges with people that aren't names Al Davis. Marshall has had plenty of problems off field. I know you don't need me to dig them up. Now Marshall is saying the right things, getting involved in the offense, and the team is 4-0. I would guess you will see Marshall in a Broncos uniform again next year, and keeping on doing those same right things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 I would guess you will see Marshall in a Broncos uniform again next year, and keeping on doing those same right things. not unless they franchise him and go through more drama. this whole discussion is pretty funny. he makes a game-winning play, and that means everything is peachy between marshall and the broncos? oooh, now he's really "buying in", not like in the past when he was making twice as many good plays because he actually had a real QB throwing him the ball. I guess we shall see... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted October 5, 2009 Author Share Posted October 5, 2009 not unless they franchise him and go through more drama. this whole discussion is pretty funny. he makes a game-winning play, and that means everything is peachy between marshall and the broncos? oooh, now he's really "buying in", not like in the past when he was making twice as many good plays because he actually had a real QB throwing him the ball. I guess we shall see... My saying he is buying in has nothing to do with the catch and everything to do with the way he is acting and what he is saying. Even if the agreement between him and McDaniels is: Play the year out for me and I won't slap the FT on you, either way things are looking pretty good at the moment in Bronco Land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 I didn't watch the game, but any chance it's just that Dallas sucks too? :ducksfromDMDthreadgun: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted October 5, 2009 Author Share Posted October 5, 2009 I didn't watch the game, but any chance it's just that Dallas sucks too? :ducksfromDMDthreadgun: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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