coachharry Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 SO Grant only gets 5 attempts to establish a running game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 There you go...he got you 3 more yards. Hope it gives you the win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tosberg34 Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 MN is doing a number on them, that's for sure. Penatlies are killing the Packers and now it's probably going to be keep up mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachharry Posted October 6, 2009 Author Share Posted October 6, 2009 Not able to watch the game so I can't see what's really happening beyond the NFL site. Thx for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORNINWOOD Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 OOOOOOPPPPS Fumble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.K.Trey Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 this is against the #1 run def the last three yrs. , noone does well vs Minn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 SO Grant only gets 5 attempts to establish a running game? Grant isn't the best RB out there but McCarthy seems to have no idea how to use him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddahj Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 how does he not get a shot from the 1 yd line??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachharry Posted October 6, 2009 Author Share Posted October 6, 2009 how does he not get a shot from the 1 yd line??? Exactly. Why not give him a shot on 2nd and 1 ?? You have 2 more downs after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Grant isn't the best RB out there but McCarthy seems to have no idea how to use him. It seems as though the Pack have begun to panick and there was plenty of time to stay the course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 The Packers don't believe in the running game. They believe in dropping back. They believe in poopyty pass protection. They believe in the sack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budlitebrad Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 It would sure open up some more PA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Hoyle Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Grant isn't the best RB out there but McCarthy seems to have no idea how to use him. I think this is a MM issue. They have not used the run at all this year. What ever happened to Brandon Jackson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 I think this is a MM issue. They have not used the run at all this year. What ever happened to Brandon Jackson? Jackson has been injured. It's less "not using the run" and more that you're top RB is a size/speed guy who appears to be a wear-down hammer - Grant isn't great by any means, but if you pound him you can wear down the D with his size. Then he starts turning the 3 yd runs into 5 yd runs, the 5 yd runs into 10 yd runs, etc. But when you go 5 wide on 2nd and 3, you just throw up the white flag. Very frustrating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 They first need an offensive line to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojo chiefs Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Since the Vikings don't have to serve the suspensions do they get to use steroids and not get caught the entire year? Other teams players served the time but somehow the viking players still don't. I know its in the courts but come on. Just wondering if they get tested does it matter? No I'm not a packer fan, fan of football . Rodgers held the ball to long and the pack should have run the ball. One penalty on the vikings all night that the pack declined. Good game but it could have been great game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Fan Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 (edited) And they have a tight end that appears to be a beast when he gets the ball. They virtually ignore Jermichael Finley until last night, and targeted him 0 times against the Rams. Edited October 6, 2009 by STL Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh 0ne Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Since the Vikings don't have to serve the suspensions do they get to use steroids and not get caught the entire year? Other teams players served the time but somehow the viking players still don't. I know its in the courts but come on. Just wondering if they get tested does it matter?No I'm not a packer fan, fan of football . Rodgers held the ball to long and the pack should have run the ball. One penalty on the vikings all night that the pack declined. Good game but it could have been great game. Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budlitebrad Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Maybe TT is trying to keep him from hitting contract escalators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 this is against the #1 run def the last three yrs. , noone does well vs Minn. Detroit did, with a suspect o-line. Then we disapperaed the 2nd half and lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonorator Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 maybe there is an evil subplot by the packers to ruin your fantasy efforts ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MnLefty Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Since the Vikings don't have to serve the suspensions do they get to use steroids and not get caught the entire year? Other teams players served the time but somehow the viking players still don't. I know its in the courts but come on. Just wondering if they get tested does it matter?No I'm not a packer fan, fan of football . If you were a fan of football you would know that it was not steroids, it was a weight loss pill and there are circumstances surrounding the particular pills, the league's banned substance list, etc... The fact that they haven't served yet is enough to show some bs surrounding the whole thing. If they had just lawyered up to delay the suspension from an easy positive test they would have served by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdrudge Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Since the Vikings don't have to serve the suspensions do they get to use steroids and not get caught the entire year? Other teams players served the time but somehow the viking players still don't. I know its in the courts but come on. Just wondering if they get tested does it matter?The enforcement of the suspensions is on hold pending the court case. They are still subject to testing just like every other player. Some players chose to server their suspension, others did not and are waiting on the outcome of the Williams case to proceed. Both the players and their teams are harmed far more if they served their suspensions while the courts hear their cases then what the NFL is...if the suspensions are upheld the NFL still gets to enforce their punishment. But if the suspensions are dropped, it's impossible to give back the impact those teams would feel by not having those players. Let it also be known that, as of what was released to the public, the use of steroids has never entered the picture. StarCaps is used as a diuretic or a weight loss pill. As a side effect of being a diuretic, it can also be used as a masking agent, thinning out evidence of steroid use to the point where it may not be detectable. THAT is why it's banned, not because it's an actual performance enhancing drug. I believe everyone who has been found to take them have admitted to taking them for their weight loss properties. Not a single player has been accused of steroid use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Let it also be known that, as of what was released to the public, the use of steroids has never entered the picture. StarCaps is used as a diuretic or a weight loss pill. As a side effect of being a diuretic, it can also be used as a masking agent, thinning out evidence of steroid use to the point where it may not be detectable. THAT is why it's banned, not because it's an actual performance enhancing drug. I believe everyone who has been found to take them have admitted to taking them for their weight loss properties. Not a single player has been accused of steroid use. The salient question is "are they guilty of taking a substance that was on the banned list?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 The enforcement of the suspensions is on hold pending the court case. They are still subject to testing just like every other player. Some players chose to server their suspension, others did not and are waiting on the outcome of the Williams case to proceed. Both the players and their teams are harmed far more if they served their suspensions while the courts hear their cases then what the NFL is...if the suspensions are upheld the NFL still gets to enforce their punishment. But if the suspensions are dropped, it's impossible to give back the impact those teams would feel by not having those players. Let it also be known that, as of what was released to the public, the use of steroids has never entered the picture. StarCaps is used as a diuretic or a weight loss pill. As a side effect of being a diuretic, it can also be used as a masking agent, thinning out evidence of steroid use to the point where it may not be detectable. THAT is why it's banned, not because it's an actual performance enhancing drug. I believe everyone who has been found to take them have admitted to taking them for their weight loss properties. Not a single player has been accused of steroid use. Why would two guys who use there sheer strength/girth/size as there biggest asset want to diet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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