Unfair Commissioner?

[xmradioguy]

Hi, I was in the midst of a fantasy game Sunday at 6 PM and I noticed my commissioner changed the lineup of my opponet as he had not logged into the site to make the changes himself. I was way in control of the game and had no chance of losing. But the opponet had bye week players in the game and he replaced them with guys who was in the Sunday and Monday night games. To do this he had to put a player on the taxi aquad, pick up Elam and Sproles for him and insert them in place of his 2 bye week guys. It made no differance in the game, but my feeling is the commissioner has no place to make moves for a team. He said the guy couldn't get to it before the games started and asked him to do this for him. He is the worse them in the league. We do not play for money, just for fun, but to me it's just plain wrong.

So should a commissioner be allowed to do this?

And can a team replace bye week players after the games start and they haven't submitted a new lineup.

BTW, we can put in our lineup any time during the week all the way until that players kickoff. If we do not submit a lineup, our previous weeks lineup goes in by default (Thus the guys on bye weeks). Once the 1oclock games starts, the bye week players have a 0 put by thier names as thier scores whereas all others who games have not started just have a - out from them. I assumed that when they were credited with 0 at the start of play of the week, the bye players have been scored and cannot be replaced. I don't know so I am asking.

Please let me know what you think.

Just want to make sure I'm not wrongly concerned.

Thanks!

Edited October 20, 2009 by xmradioguy

[Swampnuts]

Commish did the right thing IMO. If the guy can't get to the computer to do it, he should be able to give the commish the ability to fix his lineup. It's not fair to the other teams in the league to let somebody get a cake win because the opposition didn't submit a full lineup.

[RussMan]

I have been in a league 11 years now. We are friends and have a rule that if you want to make a lineup change but can't get to a computer you may call your opponent or the commisser before kickoff of the games the players are in and submit your lineup.

 

This has happened on occassion when someone was on vacation, out hunting, at a game etc and couldnt get access to a computer. We have never had a problem.

 

Just ast week I was on a cruise .... I told the commish he has my permission to change my lineup in the event that a player ( welker, A bradshaw ) was made inactive prior to the game and he was near his computer to make it happen.

Edited October 20, 2009 by RussMan

[Avernus]

there was nothing wrong with what was done....

 

not everyone can sit by a computer during the entire pre-game espn/fox/cbs rant shows and then make the move necessary at gametime...

 

some people have things to do...

[xmradioguy]

If I understand those rules, it is unfair. If the lineup has to be in by 1PM, then any changes after that are wrong.

 

Now, if you can still change your lineups for the players yet to play, even after the 1PM kickoffs, I don't think it's a big deal since the commish didn't do anything the owner couldn't have done. I don't like it because you don't know if your opponent made the choices for those replacements himself. Nothing to get too worked up about in a league for fun though.

I agree 100% Mello, and that's my problem. I am not sure he was asked to make changes or he did them on his own. It's as if he is running the team. Secondly, I am in his wife's division and that got me wondering about it as well as I have tied her with her lose this week.

Third, I am still unsure about removing bye week players after the live scoing has already hit them with a 0.

Thanks for your opinions.

[Grimm74]

"To do this he had to put a player on the taxi aquad, pick up Elam and Sproles for him and insert them in place of his 2 bye week guys."

 

As long as these are legal moves by the league and were directed by the team owner and not the commish then there is nothing wrong. If the commish was just doing something a normal person could do at a computer then it is fine...if not there are MAJOR PROBLEMS...typically though the other owner and the commish should have let you know what was going on before the moves were made.

[RussMan]

I agree 100% Mello, and that's my problem. I am not sure he was asked to make changes or he did them on his own. It's as if he is running the team. Secondly, I am in his wife's division and that got me wondering about it as well as I have tied her with her lose this week.

Third, I am still unsure about removing bye week players after the live scoing has already hit them with a 0.

Thanks for your opinions.

 

You need to ask. The commish should not be running a team... unless the owner isnt running the team. If the owner isnt running the team then in fairness to the entire league it should be taken over but everything should be transparent and above board.

[CrimsonGhost]

its a free league chill out. BTW in order to be fair to everyone in the league the comish did the right thing. Why should you get a free win?

[xmradioguy]

its a free league chill out. BTW in order to be fair to everyone in the league the comish did the right thing. Why should you get a free win?

I am not arguing the win, I already had it wrapped up. I don't even argue much the lineup changes, although I'm unsure abut the bye week guys. I do think it's wrong for him to be making roster and wavier moves. Unless you think he should control 2 teams. Why not 3?

[Chief]

He said the guy couldn't get to it before the games started and asked him to do this for him.

 

This makes it legit and correct.

[Jackass]

I am not arguing the win, I already had it wrapped up. I don't even argue much the lineup changes, although I'm unsure abut the bye week guys. I do think it's wrong for him to be making roster and wavier moves. Unless you think he should control 2 teams. Why not 3?

 

Dude, the guy couldn't get to a computer and had bye week players in his lineup. What is your malfunction? Grab a forty of Old E, get a new porn video and forget about it.

 

And not to mention you're in a FREE league. Who friggin' cares?

Edited October 21, 2009 by Jackass

[Zooty]

you should switch from XM to Sirius, they have the NFL network and games without paying for the premium package

 

Other than that, not sure what your issue is.

[ChampSampson]

[whomper]

If the other team couldnt get to a comp and asked the comish to make specific changes then you should be OK with it. If the commish did it on his own you have a legit beef

[Grendel47]

very surprised at the responses here.....

 

I'd think that there would be an overwheming number of people in support of lynching your commish.....

 

But it seems like most people are OK with what he did.

 

For me, it all comes down to when the player contacted the commish and asked him to make the changes....was it before the games that the players that were picked up started?

 

If it was after, then that's a no no. If it's before and the commish just didn't make the changes in time, then that's OK.

 

Also, what ar he waiver wire rules? an owner pick player during games? Or did the owner contact the commish prior to the waiver wire cut time and asked him to make the changes.?

 

Also, what are the rules on this? This should be clearly stated on what's acceptable and what's not.

 

I'm the commish of my league of 12 years, and I allow owners to submit changes to their lineup via e-mail, phone ,text, website, or smoke signals as long as it's prior to the kickoff of the game those players are in and those players are not replacing players already playing.

Edited October 21, 2009 by Grendel47

[Furd]

For me, it all comes down to when the player contacted the commish and asked him to make the changes....was it before the games that the players that were picked up started?

 

If it was after, then that's a no no. If it's before and the commish just didn't make the changes in time, then that's OK.

 

Also, what ar he waiver wire rules? an owner pick player during games? Or did the owner contact the commish prior to the waiver wire cut time and asked him to make the changes.?

 

Also, what are the rules on this? This should be clearly stated on what's acceptable and what's not.

 

These are the proper questions.

 

If the owner timely requested the commissioner to perform those acts, and those acts were within the league rules, it seems ok to me. But what do your rules say?

 

I'm the commish of my league of 12 years, and I allow owners to submit changes to their lineup via e-mail, phone ,text, website, or smoke signals as long as it's prior to the kickoff of the game those players are in and those players are not replacing players already playing.

 

I agree with that. You should spell that out in the league rules though.

[Gonkis]

This is another example of not having thoroughly written rules. You should have one place to go to get the answer you need, the rules. If not, modify them next season.

 

As a side...I hate how everyone jumps on the "free leagues suck" bandwagon immediately. A league can still be competitive with people you know, personally. Just becauser a league is free, doesn't mean people can cheat. There are plenty of people who play for bragging rights at the next family reunion, etc. I guess it would be different if you just signed up for some random league on ESPN or something, but outside of that...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

'Course, I'm not in any free leagues, cause I think they suck.

[Savage Beatings]

For me, it all comes down to when the player contacted the commish and asked him to make the changes....was it before the games that the players that were picked up started?

 

Exactly the one question that needs to be asked of and answered by your Commish.

[CEO of the Barefoots]

I agree 100% Mello, and that's my problem. I am not sure he was asked to make changes or he did them on his own. It's as if he is running the team. Secondly, I am in his wife's division and that got me wondering about it as well as I have tied her with her lose this week.

Third, I am still unsure about removing bye week players after the live scoing has already hit them with a 0.

Thanks for your opinions.

 

This is a free league and the commish's wife is in your division. I have seen enough.

[Cunning Runt]

These are the proper questions.

 

If the owner timely requested the commissioner to perform those acts, and those acts were within the league rules, it seems ok to me. But what do your rules say?

 

 

 

I agree with that. You should spell that out in the league rules though.

 

You can't cover every possible scenario in a set of FF rules. Ultimately it comes down to common sense and fair play. There were either shenanigans or there wasn't. I've been our league's commish for 10 plus years now and while I try to include as much as I can in the written rules, if something isn't, I rule on something based on common sense and fair play. I've never had a single problem in the league.

[Whiskey Pimp]

I don't have a big problem with this as long as all of the moves the commish made were instructed by the owner. If the commish made his own decisions then it's wrong. I can understand not being able to get to a computer for various issues but an owner can't cover a bye week issue in advance? That seems like a poor excuse though.

[detlef]

If the other team couldnt get to a comp and asked the comish to make specific changes then you should be OK with it. If the commish did it on his own you have a legit beef

Exactly.

[detlef]

This is a free league and the commish's wife is in your division. I have seen enough.

Exactly, you should have known something was up once they let chicks into the league.

[Duchess Jack]

I =set lineups for owners all of the time - but the request needs to come before the relevant players' kickoff... so... if you've a bye week player in for a 1pm game and and a bye week player in for a 4pm game and call me at 1:30 - I can change the 4pm bye player to a player who'll be playing 4pm or later, but you are SOL with the 1pm bye week player.

[dbforbes]

very surprised at the responses here.....

 

I'd think that there would be an overwheming number of people in support of lynching your commish.....

 

But it seems like most people are OK with what he did.

 

For me, it all comes down to when the player contacted the commish and asked him to make the changes....was it before the games that the players that were picked up started?

 

If it was after, then that's a no no. If it's before and the commish just didn't make the changes in time, then that's OK.

 

Also, what ar he waiver wire rules? an owner pick player during games? Or did the owner contact the commish prior to the waiver wire cut time and asked him to make the changes.?

 

Also, what are the rules on this? This should be clearly stated on what's acceptable and what's not.

 

I'm the commish of my league of 12 years, and I allow owners to submit changes to their lineup via e-mail, phone ,text, website, or smoke signals as long as it's prior to the kickoff of the game those players are in and those players are not replacing players already playing.

 

This is how my money league does it as well. As money's involved, I would verbally assault my commissioner if he changed a team's lineup after the game had started, if the commissioner had made the changes without specific request from the team's owner and/or if the commissioner made the changes after a late call from the owner. But if a roster change request was made prior to kickoff, and the commissioner just didn't get to it in time, I would be okay with the late change. But ONLY at the player's timely and specific request. In the 21st century, if the owner doesn't care enough to at least grab a cell phone and take two minutes to call somebody about it and say play this person who's already on my team, or pick up this person from the waiver wire on drop that person, he doesn't deserve to have a chance to win. I know that some will say "But what if we can't get to a phone?" I just reply that that's one of the perils of playing fantasy football for money.