What makes a good fan?

[coopershit]

Instead of me writing a marvelous article on why the Bengals have been consistently having issues selling out their home games all year, I would like to hear what other people think. However I will list a few facts before you ramble on...

 

 

1. The team is 5 - 2.

 

2. They are in 1st place in the division (could be toughest division in the NFL but the browns ruin that)

 

3. Did I mention they were in first place?

 

4. This will be the 4th game this year they will be given an extension to sell the extra tickets to avoid blackout. This also includes OPENING DAY! Yes that's right, you know the first game of football. Week 1. Anticipation waiting all summer for a leaf to fall from a tree so you can smell football in the air. As far as I can remember, the Bengals sold out all week 1 homes games even when Klingler, Blake, Akili Smith, and other dorks started for the Bengals.

 

5. The only home game that didnt come in threat of not selling out was VS. PITTSBURGH. Hmmm.. I wonder why? Perhaps STEELERS fans had to save the local market so people could watch the game on TV.

 

6. Each and every home game this year; (besides the Pittsburgh game) tickets had to be bought by local businesses or even Players (Chad Ocho) so the game could be televised locally

 

7. The city of Cincinnati is boasting WHO DEY all week long, but they don't want to shell out the $35 - $50 to get a ticket.

 

 

Do the Cincinnati Bengals actually have fans or is the city just interested in Fashion Trends?

 

 

What do you think?

[i_am_the_swammi]

Cincinnati has a football team?

[bigrocks]

I love the NFL as much as anyone, but let’s face it, its become just another form of entertainment. The ‘fan’ you ask about has to hand over a minimum of $200+ for a ticket, parking, concessions, etc. And it goes quickly up from there.... that’s a fairly steep price tag to stand around cheering on a bunch of laundry running around on the field chasing a ball.

[keggerz]

What is the unemployment rate in Cinncy?

I guess that what I am getting at is that MONEY doesn't make you a good fan.

I am sure there are a ton of GOOD FANS that would go to the games (not just Cinn.) if they could afford it.

 

As an example...each of the past 2 years I was able to get my hands on some Redskins tickets (not a Skins fan, Eagles fan) one game they played Philly and it was fun to go and root for my team...this year I had the opportunity to go again to FedEx and see the Eagles and I had to pass because I just couldn't afford the "COST" to go to the game (driving, hotel, tickets etc)

 

FWIW, I have ribbed Jags fans pretty good in my weekly IDP piece about not selling out but the truth is that I really think our economic condition is a major reason....well that and the Jags just dont have a strong fan base

[Delicious_bass]

What is the unemployment rate in Cinncy?

I guess that what I am getting at is that MONEY doesn't make you a good fan.

I am sure there are a ton of GOOD FANS that would go to the games (not just Cinn.) if they could afford it.

 

As an example...each of the past 2 years I was able to get my hands on some Redskins tickets (not a Skins fan, Eagles fan) one game they played Philly and it was fun to go and root for my team...this year I had the opportunity to go again to FedEx and see the Eagles and I had to pass because I just couldn't afford the "COST" to go to the game (driving, hotel, tickets etc)

 

FWIW, I have ribbed Jags fans pretty good in my weekly IDP piece about not selling out but the truth is that I really think our economic condition is a major reason....well that and the Jags just dont have a strong fan base

Agreed. Well said, Keg

 

Not fair nor accurate to measure the degree to which someone is a fan by how much money they are able to spend on tickets. There are people who live and die with the ups/downs of "their" team that have not the money nor opportunity to go to a game for a variety of reasons...

[STL Fan]

I love the NFL as much as anyone, but let’s face it, its become just another form of entertainment. The ‘fan’ you ask about has to hand over a minimum of $200+ for a ticket, parking, concessions, etc. And it goes quickly up from there.... that’s a fairly steep price tag to stand around cheering on a bunch of laundry running around on the field chasing a ball.

 

That's a bit exagerrated in many markets. I have good seats to the Rams and face value for the tix is about $75, plus $15 to park (per car, not per ticket). That's a lot of $8 beers to get anywhere close to $200, and I'll bet Cinci is similarly priced. That being said, I agree with your premise that it's tough. The average ticket prices include the ridiculous ones.

[NoSupe4You]

I follow my team no matter what. That being said, until there is at least as much emphasis on the game as there is on the business (which I have serious doubts will ever happen again) I will refuse to support the business by routinely dropping absurd amounts of money on tickets or merchandise (I do occasionally go to a game or buy a hat.)

[lennykravitz2004]

That's a bit exagerrated in many markets. I have good seats to the Rams and face value for the tix is about $75, plus $15 to park (per car, not per ticket). That's a lot of $8 beers to get anywhere close to $200, and I'll bet Cinci is similarly priced. That being said, I agree with your premise that it's tough. The average ticket prices include the ridiculous ones.

 

$15? where do you park? I park in the Kiener (sp?) West garage for $8 and walk the 6 blocks. If you tailgate though, that wouldn't work for you (obviously).

[detlef]

Then there's the fact that plenty think that football is a game best enjoyed on TV. So the notion of dropping mad cash is not an option they consider even if they have it.

 

For the longest time there's been this notion of loyalty to a pro sports franchise that no other business could ever dream to have. A team sucks year in and year out and then it's the fans who get crap for not being loyal. It's sort of strange especially when you consider how expensive it is to be "a true fan" by many people's measure.

[Big John]

Cincinnati has a football team?

yes

[STL Fan]

$15? where do you park? I park in the Kiener (sp?) West garage for $8 and walk the 6 blocks. If you tailgate though, that wouldn't work for you (obviously).

 

On a surface lot north of the casino. Easy in, very fast out. I can stay for the last snap and be home before the postgame show on the radio is over. Those garages take forever to empty, no?

[Seahawks21]

The other aspect is that it is the Cincinatti Bengals. I'm sure fans have been turned off by the lack of discipline surrounding the team, and don't trust the current bunch enough yet to want to give their money to anyone associated with the team.

[untateve]

That's a bit exagerrated in many markets. I have good seats to the Rams and face value for the tix is about $75, plus $15 to park (per car, not per ticket). That's a lot of $8 beers to get anywhere close to $200, and I'll bet Cinci is similarly priced. That being said, I agree with your premise that it's tough. The average ticket prices include the ridiculous ones.

 

Okay, that's $90, provided you buy nothing to eat or drink. Do you typically go to the game alone? Now if you go only with friends, you get away cheap. What about the guy who wants to go with his wife or maybe bring his son/daughter. 2 tickets =150 and + parking = $165. Again, this supposes that you buy nothing else.

 

So, in a tough economy, for 3-4 hours entertainment, I'm dropping $165--and I'm going to be pretty fn hungry and thirsty. Um, no thanks.

[BearcatGreg]

The success of the UC Bearcats is also a factor. Many season ticket holders gave up on the Bengals and purchased UC season tix. Others bought single game tickets and won't double up with Bengal seats. Also, high school football is huge in Cincinnati. People outside the area can't understand the impact of HS football in this area. The first round of playoffs are this Friday and Saturday night. Couple that with a huge game at UC Saturday night and you can see why fans may opt out of Bengal tickets. One thing to keep in mind is that every game has sold out and there have been no local blackouts. I predict this week's game will sell out today, thus avoiding a blackout.

[BearBroncos]

$15? where do you park? I park in the Kiener (sp?) West garage for $8 and walk the 6 blocks. If you tailgate though, that wouldn't work for you (obviously).

 

EXACTLY!!

 

To park within 5 miles of Mile High you can expect to pay at least $25 bucks and $8 beer??? Wow, now that's cheap! Might be able to get some squeegee beer for that price... Seriously, minimum price for beer at Mile High, Coors field (not that’s funny) and Pepsi center is $12. Hot dog for about $8 bucks, if your lucky and $6 pretzels.

 

Now granted, you can do a game for face value if you do it right. Take the train to the stadium for $4 and just don't indulge in the food or beverages but then you really lose the football experience.

[STL Fan]

EXACTLY!!

 

To park within 5 miles of Mile High you can expect to pay at least $25 bucks and $8 beer??? Wow, now that's cheap! Might be able to get some squeegee beer for that price... Seriously, minimum price for beer at Mile High, Coors field (not that’s funny) and Pepsi center is $12. Hot dog for about $8 bucks, if your lucky and $6 pretzels.

 

Now granted, you can do a game for face value if you do it right. Take the train to the stadium for $4 and just don't indulge in the food or beverages but then you really lose the football experience.

 

$12 for a Coors! Yikes! A 16-ounce Budweiser is $8 at the Dome in STL.

[STL Fan]

Okay, that's $90, provided you buy nothing to eat or drink. Do you typically go to the game alone? Now if you go only with friends, you get away cheap. What about the guy who wants to go with his wife or maybe bring his son/daughter. 2 tickets =150 and + parking = $165. Again, this supposes that you buy nothing else.

 

So, in a tough economy, for 3-4 hours entertainment, I'm dropping $165--and I'm going to be pretty fn hungry and thirsty. Um, no thanks.

 

But that's not what you said. You said "$200 + plus for a ticket" That's just not the case in most places. That's all I'm saying. I agree with your premise, it's expensive.

 

And yes, if you tailgate, you can eat and drink very cheaply outside and get by with having maybe one or two beers inside and still get a great experience.

[detlef]

$12 for a Coors! Yikes! A 16-ounce Budweiser is $8 at the Dome in STL.

Now that's what I call a bargain!

 

Or you can roll out of bed, do a few chores around the house, make yourself a dagwood sammich, buy a whole sixer of something good for the price of one budweiser and settle in on your comfy couch with your dog at your feet and watch the game with a better angle than you can get from almost any seat in the stadium. And, while this may not apply to domed teams, there's no chance that you have to sit through a freaking rain storm.

 

The beer thing really hits home with me because this whole loyalty thing just seems to go one way. If you refuse to pay what amounts to seriously top dollar for the ticket alone and then subject yourself to shameless price gouging all along the way, then you're letting the team down. Meanwhile, it's abundantly clear that any ownership group sees you as nothing more than sucker. They might have pride in putting together a winning team, but as far as your role? You play the sucker because they bend you at each and every turn.

 

Think about it this way. You can go to a nice restaurant. Have a waiter bring you a cold beer and a chilled glass, pour it in for you. Clear it when you're through and bring you another if you ask. If, for some reason, it spills (be it your fault or not), some kid rushes over with a bunch of towels, cleans up the mess, and you get a fresh beer. And for this you're paying $5-$6 for something good. Meanwhile, you stand in line, have someone hand you a beer in a plastic cup that you have to navigate back to your seat hoping you don't get bumped into and it's an $8 budweiser that costs them maybe .75 to fill. And you can't make the argument that it's more expensive because you're paying for the atmosphere because, well, you're already paying for the freaking atmosphere when you drop $75 on your tix! So that can't be fairly amortized into any other cost associated with the experience.

 

It's really a freaking crock and these guys have brainwashed so many into a blind allegiance that no other business is ever shown. Think about that as well. The local restaurant, your mechanic, a contractor, , your barber, hell an auto manufacturer, you name it. They screw up a few times, they raise their prices a bit too high, they get dropped like a bad habit and nobody blinks. Do this to your friendly neighborhood multi-million dollar pro sports franchise and you're a turncoat.

[The Irish Doggy]

What do you think?

 

 

[coopershit]

I wanted to wait until the next day before I responded to any of replies. As I assumed, most were fiscal reasons "excuses" defending a so called well represented team. I also understand the success of the Cincinnati Bearcats as well, but concession prices do not differ between Nippert Stadium and Paul Brown Stadium. I say this with 15 working years experience at most of the Cincinnati major venues. This includes both stadiums listed year in and year out. I am also very familiar with the crowd patterns of the Cincinnati Reds as well. After 15 years you pick up on patterns between the fans and the organization.

 

 

One Pattern I have picked up over the years, Cincinnati BENGAL FANS are the most unloyal fans I have ever seen. I remember in 05 when the Bengals had an explosive offense, fun to watch, just moved into a NEW STADIUM and MADE THE PLAYOFFS! They sold out all of their games that year. It was a fun atmosphere to be around. Sorry Steeler Nation crucify me for that, but they were a good team and we know it.

 

Then came 2006 - Current. Nothing but consistent blackouts because the Bengals fell into being the "Bengals" again. Now the Bengals, top of the hill the city is starting scream Who-Dey but no followers at the game? Hey Sailor! New in town??? is up with that? Perhaps its the fan's lack of trust in the team? They know their winning but, still scared to come to the game?

 

 

Again let me reiterate there is NOT a fiscal reason why fans are not coming to the game. Why do city's like DENVER, PITTSBURGH, BALTIMORE, KANSAS MOTHER TRUCKIN CITY (yes they suck bad, really bad), GREEN BAY and more blue collar midwest folk sell out EVERY GAME FOR YEARS!!!! ??????? It's not because of the unemployment rate, the cost of a cold beer, the high demand of jobs or lack there of, its because they support their team. There is so many damn people in the area that supports the team that getting a ticket can take weeks, or even months in advance to go to the game. One thing for sure is, they wont ever have to worry about not watching their team on TV when they are playing at home! That's the truth. All that money garbage is nothing but a blanket to cover your sorry bandwagon pathetic team loving butt.

 

 

Good Day all...

 

GO STEELERS

 

 

Who Dey! Do Dey? Have Dem RINGS? NO DEY DONT! WE DEY!

[STL Fan]

Now that's what I call a bargain!

 

Or you can roll out of bed, do a few chores around the house, make yourself a dagwood sammich, buy a whole sixer of something good for the price of one budweiser and settle in on your comfy couch with your dog at your feet and watch the game with a better angle than you can get from almost any seat in the stadium. And, while this may not apply to domed teams, there's no chance that you have to sit through a freaking rain storm.

 

The beer thing really hits home with me because this whole loyalty thing just seems to go one way. If you refuse to pay what amounts to seriously top dollar for the ticket alone and then subject yourself to shameless price gouging all along the way, then you're letting the team down. Meanwhile, it's abundantly clear that any ownership group sees you as nothing more than sucker. They might have pride in putting together a winning team, but as far as your role? You play the sucker because they bend you at each and every turn.

 

Think about it this way. You can go to a nice restaurant. Have a waiter bring you a cold beer and a chilled glass, pour it in for you. Clear it when you're through and bring you another if you ask. If, for some reason, it spills (be it your fault or not), some kid rushes over with a bunch of towels, cleans up the mess, and you get a fresh beer. And for this you're paying $5-$6 for something good. Meanwhile, you stand in line, have someone hand you a beer in a plastic cup that you have to navigate back to your seat hoping you don't get bumped into and it's an $8 budweiser that costs them maybe .75 to fill. And you can't make the argument that it's more expensive because you're paying for the atmosphere because, well, you're already paying for the freaking atmosphere when you drop $75 on your tix! So that can't be fairly amortized into any other cost associated with the experience.

 

It's really a freaking crock and these guys have brainwashed so many into a blind allegiance that no other business is ever shown. Think about that as well. The local restaurant, your mechanic, a contractor, , your barber, hell an auto manufacturer, you name it. They screw up a few times, they raise their prices a bit too high, they get dropped like a bad habit and nobody blinks. Do this to your friendly neighborhood multi-million dollar pro sports franchise and you're a turncoat.

 

If that's what flips your switch, then stay home. Those of us who go to games are willing to pay the price for the excitement, atmosphere and camaraderie of being there, and even being part of the action when the bad guys have the ball. There is no experience like being an excited fan AT a professional sporting event, and the owners know that and charge accordingly.

 

I'm trying not to be too offended that you basically called me a stupid sheep for going to the game and having a beer. I also get to regularly take my sons to the game and have a great day enjoying something we have in common and using the down time to talk about life, love, school, friends and everything else guy-to-guy.

 

Truth be told, I think it's a bargain. So stay home and eat a sandwich with your dog and stop calling me names.

[coopershit]

Now that's what I call a bargain!

 

Or you can roll out of bed, do a few chores around the house, make yourself a dagwood sammich, buy a whole sixer of something good for the price of one budweiser and settle in on your comfy couch with your dog at your feet and watch the game with a better angle than you can get from almost any seat in the stadium. And, while this may not apply to domed teams, there's no chance that you have to sit through a freaking rain storm.

 

The beer thing really hits home with me because this whole loyalty thing just seems to go one way. If you refuse to pay what amounts to seriously top dollar for the ticket alone and then subject yourself to shameless price gouging all along the way, then you're letting the team down. Meanwhile, it's abundantly clear that any ownership group sees you as nothing more than sucker. They might have pride in putting together a winning team, but as far as your role? You play the sucker because they bend you at each and every turn.

 

Think about it this way. You can go to a nice restaurant. Have a waiter bring you a cold beer and a chilled glass, pour it in for you. Clear it when you're through and bring you another if you ask. If, for some reason, it spills (be it your fault or not), some kid rushes over with a bunch of towels, cleans up the mess, and you get a fresh beer. And for this you're paying $5-$6 for something good. Meanwhile, you stand in line, have someone hand you a beer in a plastic cup that you have to navigate back to your seat hoping you don't get bumped into and it's an $8 budweiser that costs them maybe .75 to fill. And you can't make the argument that it's more expensive because you're paying for the atmosphere because, well, you're already paying for the freaking atmosphere when you drop $75 on your tix! So that can't be fairly amortized into any other cost associated with the experience.

 

It's really a freaking crock and these guys have brainwashed so many into a blind allegiance that no other business is ever shown. Think about that as well. The local restaurant, your mechanic, a contractor, , your barber, hell an auto manufacturer, you name it. They screw up a few times, they raise their prices a bit too high, they get dropped like a bad habit and nobody blinks. Do this to your friendly neighborhood multi-million dollar pro sports franchise and you're a turncoat.

 

 

Well said, I also understand your viewpoint.

 

However, that should be said by some mid aged housewife who is tired of her husband spending all day watching football or better, becoming an ALL PRO FORUM member on a fantasy football website. You must have been obviously brainwashed into the blind allegiance of professional football itself as well. We all have. Anyone rocking a membership to the Huddle and browsing the forums because it's " a Hobby, fun to do, get your mind off the daily grind, etc" whatever it is, don't talk about stadiums and franchises brainwashing you into what is a good time. Because you obviously like to talk about their product enough to be one of those brainwashed fools.

 

Be sure not to watch football this Sunday, unless hypocritical behavior runs in your family.

[i_am_the_swammi]

If that's what flips your switch, then stay home. Those of us who go to games are willing to pay the price for the excitement, atmosphere and camaraderie of being there, and even being part of the action when the bad guys have the ball. There is no experience like being an excited fan AT a professional sporting event, and the owners know that and charge accordingly.

 

I'm trying not to be too offended that you basically called me a stupid sheep for going to the game and having a beer. I also get to regularly take my sons to the game and have a great day enjoying something we have in common and using the down time to talk about life, love, school, friends and everything else guy-to-guy.

 

Truth be told, I think it's a bargain. So stay home and eat a sandwich with your dog and stop calling me names.

 

I think this is exceptional.

 

I certainly understand Detlef's perception as someone who likely takes in a live game once in blue moon, and feels raped in the process. To experience it once in a while makes you very critical of what you are paying for.

 

But for those of us that are season ticket holders (Eagles since 1983), some of my fondest memories are of Sunday day-games. Getting up with my dad and brother when i was in high school, having eggs and bacon on the grill for breakfast in a cold parking lot at 9:00AM, lunch before we went into the stadium, and living and dying our team for the 3 hours that was the game (as well as the 6 days before the next one). It was a weekly family ritual, and one i sincerely doubt would have been repeated with such enthusiasm has we been relegated to "doing chores around the house while preparing a dagwood sandwich in our kitchen". The bonding we experienced during that time was irreplaceable...I definitely grew up tenfold laughing and talking about life/girls/jokes with my dad, his buddy, and my older brother while watching them drink and socialize.

 

My dad is now 74, and only makes it to a game every once in a while. The tickets have been handed down to me, and I go to maybe 4-5 games per year with some buddies. These days, there are indeed times it does indeed seem like a hassle to get to the stadium, and I admit once in a while I wish at home in front of my 60 inch TV, warm, with a couple hundred bucks in my pocket. Four kids and 42 years old will do that.

 

But I keep writing that check every summer for my four season tickets. Why? because I can't wait until my boys are old enough to enjoy what I enjoyed with my dad. In today's world with video games, cell phones, texting, my kids are already wrapped up in enough non-social activity...even when we are out for the day, they have their gadgets with them. Seems there aren't enough hours in the day when we all have each other's full attention,a nd we can just hang out, laugh, and just enjoy each other. I can't wait to rustle them out of bed on a Sunday morning, get them geared up in their Eagles green, pack the cooler, grill and chairs, and head to the Linc on a frosty December morning to watch their heroes battle another day.

 

And when they do it for the first time, I have a feeling they too will want it for a lifetime, just as I have.

[STL Fan]

I think this is exceptional.

 

I certainly understand Detlef's perception as someone who likely takes in a live game once in blue moon, and feels raped in the process. To experience it once in a while makes you very critical of what you are paying for.

 

But for those of us that are season ticket holders (Eagles since 1983), some of my fondest memories are of Sunday day-games. Getting up with my dad and brother when i was in high school, having eggs and bacon on the grill for breakfast in a cold parking lot at 9:00AM, lunch before we went into the stadium, and living and dying our team for the 3 hours that was the game (as well as the 6 days before the next one). It was a weekly family ritual, and one i sincerely doubt would have been repeated with such enthusiasm has we been relegated to "doing chores around the house while preparing a dagwood sandwich in our kitchen". The bonding we experienced during that time was irreplaceable...I definitely grew up tenfold laughing and talking about life/girls/jokes with my dad, his buddy, and my older brother while watching them drink and socialize.

 

My dad is now 74, and only makes it to a game every once in a while. The tickets have been handed down to me, and I go to maybe 4-5 games per year with some buddies. These days, there are indeed times it does indeed seem like a hassle to get to the stadium, and I admit once in a while I wish at home in front of my 60 inch TV, warm, with a couple hundred bucks in my pocket. Four kids and 42 years old will do that.

 

But I keep writing that check every summer for my four season tickets. Why? because I can't wait until my boys are old enough to enjoy what I enjoyed with my dad. In today's world with video games, cell phones, texting, my kids are already wrapped up in enough non-social activity...even when we are out for the day, they have their gadgets with them. Seems there aren't enough hours in the day when we all have each other's full attention,a nd we can just hang out, laugh, and just enjoy each other. I can't wait to rustle them out of bed on a Sunday morning, get them geared up in their Eagles green, pack the cooler, grill and chairs, and head to the Linc on a frosty December morning to watch their heroes battle another day.

 

And when they do it for the first time, I have a feeling they too will want it for a lifetime, just as I have.

 

 

When the Rams announced they were moving here, I told my wife I wanted to get tickets and she was skeptical. I then told her a very similar story to the one you told here about how my Dad and I would go see the Football Cardinals together and how much I loved that time with him. I'm sorry to say that for a long time when I was a hard-headed teenager and he was a stubborn Dad, the Cardiac Cards were one of the few things we could talk about and be civil together. Having two sons, I wanted to share that same thing with them, hopefully without all the drama.

 

My wife, with tears in her eyes, handed me the checkbook.

 

It's about a lot more than $8 beers.

[STL Fan]

I wanted to wait until the next day before I responded to any of replies. As I assumed, most were fiscal reasons "excuses" defending a so called well represented team. I also understand the success of the Cincinnati Bearcats as well, but concession prices do not differ between Nippert Stadium and Paul Brown Stadium. I say this with 15 working years experience at most of the Cincinnati major venues. This includes both stadiums listed year in and year out. I am also very familiar with the crowd patterns of the Cincinnati Reds as well. After 15 years you pick up on patterns between the fans and the organization.

 

 

One Pattern I have picked up over the years, Cincinnati BENGAL FANS are the most unloyal fans I have ever seen. I remember in 05 when the Bengals had an explosive offense, fun to watch, just moved into a NEW STADIUM and MADE THE PLAYOFFS! They sold out all of their games that year. It was a fun atmosphere to be around. Sorry Steeler Nation crucify me for that, but they were a good team and we know it.

 

Then came 2006 - Current. Nothing but consistent blackouts because the Bengals fell into being the "Bengals" again. Now the Bengals, top of the hill the city is starting scream Who-Dey but no followers at the game? Hey Sailor! New in town??? is up with that? Perhaps its the fan's lack of trust in the team? They know their winning but, still scared to come to the game?

 

 

Again let me reiterate there is NOT a fiscal reason why fans are not coming to the game. Why do city's like DENVER, PITTSBURGH, BALTIMORE, KANSAS MOTHER TRUCKIN CITY (yes they suck bad, really bad), GREEN BAY and more blue collar midwest folk sell out EVERY GAME FOR YEARS!!!! ??????? It's not because of the unemployment rate, the cost of a cold beer, the high demand of jobs or lack there of, its because they support their team. There is so many damn people in the area that supports the team that getting a ticket can take weeks, or even months in advance to go to the game. One thing for sure is, they wont ever have to worry about not watching their team on TV when they are playing at home! That's the truth. All that money garbage is nothing but a blanket to cover your sorry bandwagon pathetic team loving butt.

 

 

Good Day all...

 

GO STEELERS

 

 

Who Dey! Do Dey? Have Dem RINGS? NO DEY DONT! WE DEY!

 

 

So this whole thread was just a Steeler fan having a wankfest so he could go off on Bengals fans. Yay.