damageinc Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 Just a heads up to Moats and Slaton owners. Texans | Moats to start, Slaton to share carries Sat Nov 7, 04:52 PM Adam Schefter, of ESPN, reports that Texans head coach Gary Kubiak told ESPN's Bob Holtzman that RB Ryan Moats will start vs Indianapolis in week 9 and Steve Slaton will share carries. Ryan Moats, RB, Houston TexansSaturday 11/7, 3:40 PM CT Texans coach Gary Kubiak has annouced that Ryan Moats will start at running back against the Colts for the Texans on Sunday, according to ESPN's Adam Schefter. He will share carries with Steve Slaton. Our View: We shall see about the "share" part. Moats shredded the Bills to the tune of 126 yards and three touchdowns last week, while Slaton has yet to go for more than 67 yards in a game this season. With tomorrow being perhaps the most important game in Texans history, it would not be surprising at all to see Kubiak go exclusively with Moats if he looks anything like he did last week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice717 Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 you got a link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damageinc Posted November 8, 2009 Author Share Posted November 8, 2009 (edited) Theres like a million . its on every site now. but heres a few. http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports...nt/6709148.html http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter/status/5515659712 http://ownersedge.fanball.com/nfl/player.php?tqid=5728 Edited November 8, 2009 by damageinc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pig devilz Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 Just a heads up to Moats and Slaton owners. Texans | Moats to start, Slaton to share carries Sat Nov 7, 04:52 PM Adam Schefter, of ESPN, reports that Texans head coach Gary Kubiak told ESPN's Bob Holtzman that RB Ryan Moats will start vs Indianapolis in week 9 and Steve Slaton will share carries. Ryan Moats, RB, Houston TexansSaturday 11/7, 3:40 PM CT Texans coach Gary Kubiak has annouced that Ryan Moats will start at running back against the Colts for the Texans on Sunday, according to ESPN's Adam Schefter. He will share carries with Steve Slaton. Our View: We shall see about the "share" part. Moats shredded the Bills to the tune of 126 yards and three touchdowns last week, while Slaton has yet to go for more than 67 yards in a game this season. With tomorrow being perhaps the most important game in Texans history, it would not be surprising at all to see Kubiak go exclusively with Moats if he looks anything like he did last week. problem is, the Indy D won't look anything like the Buffalo D.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 A lot of my predictions have been wrong this year (big news) but few as much as Slaton. I was really high on him this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 :sigh: it was inevitable, with all the fumbles . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 I picked him up and traded him to the Slaton owner for Kevin Smith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantsfan Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 (edited) That's where I disagree. Was he really that bad fantasy wise? In my .5 PPR league he was the # 7 RB into last week. Even with the bye factored in he was top 10ish. AND if he held onto the ball last week he could have been top 5 right now. He would have put up at least 2 TD's against Buff IMO. So unless you lose a lot of points for fumbles he was very good fantasy wise. Especially in PPR leagues. Into last week he had 650 total yards and 5 TD's in 7 games. And that's after an awful first two weeks. Since then he has been VERY good. That's a 11 TD 1400 + yard pace for the season. A lot of that damage was as a receiver sure, but it still counts no? I can't argue with starting Moats (the fumbles were a joke now), but I think this hurts the team. Slaton is the better back period. He is dangerous every time he touches the ball, especially in the open field. Moats just isn't as good. That is why start Moats, do what you need to, but I still thnk Slaton gets his today. And at days end gets more touches. Against real teams I think they need him in there to win. That goes double with Daniels out now. Now if he fumbles again today...all bets are off...LOL. Edited November 8, 2009 by giantsfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'canes2004 Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 The one league I'm completely failing in also happens to be the only league I have Slaton in. As a keeper, he has let me down too many times this year already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfer Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 in my Slaton league it's-1 fumble, another -1 fumble lost, that's -12 for Steve-o on the year, and trust me it does impact games. I tend to agree that Slaton is a key weapon that will have to be on the field to help beat an elite opponent. But outside of Indy Houston's schedule eases up:Indy,Bye,Tenn,Indy,@jax,Sea,@St.L,@Mia Coming out of the bye, be it 5-4 or 6-3, I can see Houston going back to trying to establish a ground attack against some of these weaker opponents. That favors Moats. If you look at this thing, Houston has a great chance at 9 wins, splitting with Indy gets them into wildcard range. Very exciting....and frustrating for this Slaton owner over here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 Moats - early on in games; when the score is close; will get a few receptions by default Slaton - will get occasional carries, but will see a lot more action when the Texans fall behind due to his ability in the passing game... Moats - between the tackles Slaton - in open space there ya go.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantsfan Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 (edited) in my Slaton league it's-1 fumble, another -1 fumble lost, that's -12 for Steve-o on the year, and trust me it does impact games. I tend to agree that Slaton is a key weapon that will have to be on the field to help beat an elite opponent. But outside of Indy Houston's schedule eases up:Indy,Bye,Tenn,Indy,@jax,Sea,@St.L,@Mia Coming out of the bye, be it 5-4 or 6-3, I can see Houston going back to trying to establish a ground attack against some of these weaker opponents. That favors Moats. If you look at this thing, Houston has a great chance at 9 wins, splitting with Indy gets them into wildcard range. Very exciting....and frustrating for this Slaton owner over here... I hear you there. In leagues where you lose points for fumbles it hurts. Elminates his PPR in those leagues. And right now YES he has been a big disappointment this year. My only point was INTO last week he was not that bad. Again # 7 in my .5 PPR league. That was my only point. To me people were going over board with the he has been awful for me all year stuff. After last week agree totally. That was a HUGE dagger. Lost my game by 4 pts due to him. But, if he comes out of today as the guy and with good numbers he'll be right back as a top 10ish guy. That was my only point. He hasn't been as bad as everyone is making him out to be UNTIL the killer last week (and maybe going forward we'll see...) Edited November 8, 2009 by giantsfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantsfan Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 Moats - early on in games; when the score is close; will get a few receptions by default Slaton - will get occasional carries, but will see a lot more action when the Texans fall behind due to his ability in the passing game... Moats - between the tackles Slaton - in open space there ya go.. Yeah, I can see this as well. To me that is fine for Slaton. Let Moats take the pounding inside. Let Slaton catch 5 passes a game and get 10 rushes a game in space on the outside. Is that a bad formula for Slaton??? I say no way. About 15 total touches works for me. He can clearly be top 10 in PPR or .5 PPR leagues with 15 touches a game. And with Daniels out I bet he lines up wide even more going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 Yeah, I can see this as well. To me that is fine for Slaton. Let Moats take the pounding inside. Let Slaton catch 5 passes a game and get 10 rushes a game in space on the outside. Is that a bad formula for Slaton??? I say no way. About 15 total touches works for me. He can clearly be top 10 in PPR or .5 PPR leagues with 15 touches a game. And with Daniels out I bet he lines up wide even more going forward. the thing is...I don't see Slaton coming in for the passing game until the Texans are down two scores or more - depending on what quarter it is... Slaton might not even get 10 carries....but the 5 receptions are very possible this week against the Colts.... it's still tough to tell what Kubiak's plan is and he'll obviously try to run, run and run some more early on to keep control of the game.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantsfan Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 the thing is...I don't see Slaton coming in for the passing game until the Texans are down two scores or more - depending on what quarter it is... Slaton might not even get 10 carries....but the 5 receptions are very possible this week against the Colts.... it's still tough to tell what Kubiak's plan is and he'll obviously try to run, run and run some more early on to keep control of the game.... Not saying you are wrong, because honestly no one really knows, but I think he is more involved in the passing game throughout then you maybe. You seem to think he doesn't play a real role until they fall behind by a decent amount. I guess I don't see that. Maybe I am hung up on the fact that I just don't think Moats is that great and Slaton is CLEARLY the better RB. Maybe that leads me to believe that Kubiak understands that as well and wouldn't let Slat sit on the bench until they are down by a decent amount and need his receiving abilities. Now if he fumbles again OR Moats runs really strongly early on all bets are off. I guess I just don't see that especially the latter. I still see 12-15 touches for Slat. I think his receiving is needed even more with Daniels gone on those short routes now. This will be interesting though, that's for sure... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trots Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 I'm still hoping that this is all for motivational purposes only and Slaton will be quite busy. I mean, it is Ryan Moats after all...:fingerscrossed: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonorator Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 don't forget the motivation for moats. guy is 26 and a free agent next year. i'm betting he's been giving it 110% to get those big bucks ... no stronger motivator than this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 That's where I disagree. Was he really that bad fantasy wise? In my .5 PPR league he was the # 7 RB into last week. Even with the bye factored in he was top 10ish. AND if he held onto the ball last week he could have been top 5 right now. He would have put up at least 2 TD's against Buff IMO. So unless you lose a lot of points for fumbles he was very good fantasy wise. Especially in PPR leagues. Into last week he had 650 total yards and 5 TD's in 7 games. And that's after an awful first two weeks. Since then he has been VERY good. That's a 11 TD 1400 + yard pace for the season. A lot of that damage was as a receiver sure, but it still counts no? I can't argue with starting Moats (the fumbles were a joke now), but I think this hurts the team. Slaton is the better back period. He is dangerous every time he touches the ball, especially in the open field. Moats just isn't as good. That is why start Moats, do what you need to, but I still thnk Slaton gets his today. And at days end gets more touches. Against real teams I think they need him in there to win. That goes double with Daniels out now. Now if he fumbles again today...all bets are off...LOL. Houston hasn't had their bye week yet. And as for the last statement, I can actually see Kubiak saying that to himself for weeks now. "If Slaton fumbles today, I gotta pull him." It's just that last week was a perfect opportunity to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splotchman Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 I traded Slaton for Ronnie Brown 3 days before he was benched. The guy approached me about Slaton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantsfan Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 (edited) Houston hasn't had their bye week yet. And as for the last statement, I can actually see Kubiak saying that to himself for weeks now. "If Slaton fumbles today, I gotta pull him." It's just that last week was a perfect opportunity to do so. What is your point with the first comment? Into last week he was # 7 in my .5 PPR league. Even with the bye factored in that would have put him what top 10ish? Still very good. And point # 2 I agree on. Kubiak isn't stupid. He KNEW Buff was awful on run D and it was the perfect spot to make a statement to Slaton. Knew Moats would be able to at least be decent against Buff (as it turns out he was better than decent). I think that furthers the notion that Slaton still has a good role on this team. Moats doing better than decent last week just gave Kubiak more to think about, AND the chance to see what Moats has against a decent D. See if he can "ride the hot hand" so to speak. I just don't see Moats being better than okay against Indy, which should give Slat a shot especially in the passing game. Assuming he DOESN'T fumble again. Edited November 8, 2009 by giantsfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantsfan Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 I traded Slaton for Ronnie Brown 3 days before he was benched. The guy approached me about Slaton. Not saying this isn't a good deal right now, but I'm not sure I'd be acting like I pulled off this great deal. What exactly has Brown done his last two games? And if Slaton does get 15 touches a game I will say he is better than Brown IMO. But as it stands right now good deal. At least you rid yourself of this Slaton headache... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splotchman Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 Not saying this isn't a good deal right now, but I'm not sure I'd be acting like I pulled off this great deal. What exactly has Brown done his last two games? And if Slaton does get 15 touches a game I will say he is better than Brown IMO. But as it stands right now good deal. At least you rid yourself of this Slaton headache... Ronnie has a pretty nice schedule coming up and much of this trade was about mitigating risk. We shall see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pig devilz Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 this is all great discussion and somewhat informative but the bottom line this week is, you have to sit Slaton. it's just to risky until we see what is what....i grabbed Moats and sitting him too. as comparison, i feel more confident playing PT in NO, as that rbbc starts to sort itself out....this rbbc in HOU is just starting. i will be surprised is Slaton gets 15 touches....don't forget, he fumbled after the catch too.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantsfan Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 this is all great discussion and somewhat informativebut the bottom line this week is, you have to sit Slaton. it's just to risky until we see what is what....i grabbed Moats and sitting him too. as comparison, i feel more confident playing PT in NO, as that rbbc starts to sort itself out....this rbbc in HOU is just starting. i will be surprised is Slaton gets 15 touches....don't forget, he fumbled after the catch too.... I agree with the can't start either RB this week. Let's see how this plays out. I still think that when the dust settles Slaton will be the guy. We shall see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 But but, I drafted RB/RB and now I lose one of my first picks. You never see this happening at WR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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