Double D Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 I am not sure if this happens much but I am 7-5 with the most points scored (most points scored against me also) and I may not get into the playoffs. The team behind me is 6-5-1. If he wins (or ties) and I lose next week then I am out of the playoffs. So much of fantasy football is your luck of schedule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 That really sucks. This will surely bring on the pros and cons of an all play or roto type league. I will always be a die hard head to head guy but seeing your scenario really sucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double D Posted December 1, 2009 Author Share Posted December 1, 2009 I like head to head better also. It makes it more competitive. Im sure there have been pro sports teams that have scored the most amount of points is a regular season and not gotten into the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belushi Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 I'm #2 in the league in points for, and me and the #3 guy are both in a situation where we could be out if we lose this week. H2H just doesn't make any sense where the #2 and #3 teams in points for may not be in the playoffs. Then its just about luck of the draw and not skill in drafting a team and setting lineups. You can't do much better than #2 in scoring, so if this is supposed to be based on skill, how could 2 of the top 3 teams in scoring not make the playoffs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griff321 Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 My local has the final wild card spot being the team with the highest points for of the remaining teams. Should help a team not even at .500 make the playoffs this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramhock Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 Was #1 in points, dropped to #2 after this week. 12 teams, now 5 - 7. Luckily more of our payout is in total points, as opposed to playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTed46 Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 the #6 seed should be the most points of the remaining 7 teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Agent Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 Happened to us a few years back. Double headers cured it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustOfBeenDrunk Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 (edited) Here is our system and works great ( if you are familiar with VP's ) Standings Sort Criteria #1: Vctry Pnts Standings Sort Criteria #2: Total Points Scored Standings Sort Criteria #3: Overall Winning Percentage H2H Win = 2 VP's so you can get 4 VP's with a win and being one of the 4 highest score that week 1st in weekly fantasy points scored 2 VPs 2nd in weekly fantasy points scored 2 VPs 3rd in weekly fantasy points scored 2 VPs 4th in weekly fantasy points scored 2 VPS 5th in weekly fantasy points scored 1 VP 6th in weekly fantasy points scored 1 VP 7th in weekly fantasy points scored 1 VP 8th in weekly fantasy points scored 1 VP 9th in weekly fantasy points scored 0 VP 10th in weekly fantasy points scored 0 VP 11th in weekly fantasy points scored 0 VP 12th in weekly fantasy points scored 0 VP 12th in weekly fantasy points scored 0 VP 13th in weekly fantasy points scored 0 VP 14th in weekly fantasy points scored 0 VP Edited December 1, 2009 by MustOfBeenDrunk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 I think you should award a final wild card spot to high pts, not record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 I have 1284 points and a 9-3 record with a weekly low of 82 points and I am one game out of first place. His team is the second highest total in the league at 1165 and a 10-2 record. We have a 16-team league and you have to win your division to make the playoffs. There are 2 teams in other divisions with 8-4 records and the last division leader is 7-5. The only upside is that we have 2 games left and I play him in week 14. If I win out, I hold the TB and will make the playoffs over him. I have never liked that we only have 4 teams in the playoffs, but that is how the league has run for the last 21 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double D Posted December 1, 2009 Author Share Posted December 1, 2009 There are some good suggestions in here that I will bring up at next years draft. thanx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesVikes Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 (edited) Here is our system and works great ( if you are familiar with VP's ) Standings Sort Criteria #1: Vctry Pnts Standings Sort Criteria #2: Total Points Scored Standings Sort Criteria #3: Overall Winning Percentage H2H Win = 2 VP's so you can get 4 VP's with a win and being one of the 4 highest score that week 1st in weekly fantasy points scored 2 VPs 2nd in weekly fantasy points scored 2 VPs 3rd in weekly fantasy points scored 2 VPs 4th in weekly fantasy points scored 2 VPS 5th in weekly fantasy points scored 1 VP 6th in weekly fantasy points scored 1 VP 7th in weekly fantasy points scored 1 VP 8th in weekly fantasy points scored 1 VP 9th in weekly fantasy points scored 0 VP 10th in weekly fantasy points scored 0 VP 11th in weekly fantasy points scored 0 VP 12th in weekly fantasy points scored 0 VP 12th in weekly fantasy points scored 0 VP 13th in weekly fantasy points scored 0 VP 14th in weekly fantasy points scored 0 VP This seems like a good way to score a league. I think that awarding points for good scores each week is a good one. I think that wins should still count at least 2nd most in a league though. Edited December 1, 2009 by MikesVikes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameltosis Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 Why play head to head if you are then going to award the highest points the last wild card? Either you want head to head or you dont. I have had the most points in the league and not made the playoffs before. In my main money league this year it is looking like it may happen again. I was just passed for most points this week and I am only behind the leader by 15. I am 5-7 and tied with 2 other teams for the last WC spot. I am also 1 game behind the division leader. I could end up winning the division, getting the last WC spot, or missing the playoffs depending on how the last week goes. It can suck, but its the system we chose and I like H2H better. Come on MJD!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPIchamp Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 There's so much luck involved in H2H's, which is why I prefer points only Leagues. I didn't do any H2H's last year, and am only in one this year (and doing very well, in fact). In one points League I'm in, it awards a weekly prize for the #1 point scorer each week, as well as prizes for ending the year 1st or 2nd. It keeps you excited week to week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdrudge Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 There's so much luck involved in H2H's, which is why I prefer points only Leagues.The same would apply to the NFL. Why don't they determine standings and playoff seeding based on points scored. Luck is part of the game. Sometimes you are the better team but have an off week. Cincinnati is better the Oakland, but points only says otherwise. In one points League I'm in, it awards a weekly prize for the #1 point scorer each week, as well as prizes for ending the year 1st or 2nd. It keeps you excited week to week.My favorite league I'm in awards prizes for both. The weekly winner gets $5. About half the pot goes to the points leader, the other half goes towards the H2H champ who also gets bragging rights as the official league champ plus waived entry fee the next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missoula Griz Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 Our league does it the right way. All three division winners make the playoffs with the two having the most points scored getting a bye. The other 3 playoff spots are determined by points scored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montster Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 The same would apply to the NFL. Why don't they determine standings and playoff seeding based on points scored. Luck is part of the game. Sometimes you are the better team but have an off week. Cincinnati is better the Oakland, but points only says otherwise. this is not a direct comparison. in the NFL, one team can stop the other from scoring. the teams directly affect each other. in fantasy, i can't ask chris johnson to please stop wes welker from inflicting on me death from a thousand 7-yard passes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montster Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 in my main money league, a 14-team redraft in which i'm the high scorer, i have 1709 points, but i'm 6-6 and may miss the playoffs. however, the last-place team, who is 1-11 and has lost nine straight, has 1802 points against. the guy gets murdered every week. he has faced the weekly high scorer five times, and he faced the second-highest one week and the third-highest another week. four teams have recorded their highest season total against him. so, you know, there's always someone worse off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Muto Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 I am not sure if this happens much but I am 7-5 with the most points scored (most points scored against me also) and I may not get into the playoffs. The team behind me is 6-5-1. If he wins (or ties) and I lose next week then I am out of the playoffs. So much of fantasy football is your luck of schedule. Welcome to my world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 I have seen the top total points guy have the worst head to head record in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delusions of grandeur Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 In one of our leagues this year, the 3rd best in points (and close to the first) is sitting in last place at 3-9. Not surprisingly, he also has the most points against....Also, the 2nd best point scorer is in 6th at 6-6, but of course 1st place in points is in fact in 1st place.... So ya, it's about luck too, but you gotta win your games each week. So should we reward NFL teams with playoff spots because they ALMOST win every week? If so, the Packers and Falcons should be a lock. JK, it is a great idea to reward a playoff spot or two to top points... Is this the guy from my league complaining, cuz I don't blame ya dude! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosGatosEnFuegos Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Top scorer in my league is not in danger of losing that distinction by regular season end. He is currently 8th in a 12 team league. He needs a win this week and 2 out of 3 teams to lose to make the playoffs. Sucks to be him, but consistency is a much overlooked necessity in H2H leagues.That said, he does have the highest PA, but them's the breaks. We've all been there. Some teams get good schedules, some have tough ones. Same happens in the NFL, which, mind you, is also a game of skill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isleseeya Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 (edited) In my main league we may have a person win the division and make playoffs with a 5-9 record ( a bunch of things have to happen this weekend but it is possible ) Two divisions had the better teams as it ended up and the third division had 4 below average teams but i never saw a record worse than 5-9 make the playoffs ... Edited December 2, 2009 by isleseeya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notamomo Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 May I sugggest using breakdown record for one of the playoff spots? Our H2H league reserves the last playoff spot for the team with the best breakdown record that has not already secured a playoff spot. Breakdown record is a much better indicator of a team's season than total points scored, imo. Adding a breakdown spot has not only ensured that a good team does not miss the playoffs because of bad luck. And....it makes things VERY interesting at the end of the season. 12 team league, 3 divisions. Top Seed- division winner with best record Second Seed- division winner with 2nd best record Third Seed- division winner with 3rd best record Fourth Seed- best record that didn't win division Fifth Seed- 2nd best record that didn't win division Sixth Seed- Best BREAKDOWN RECORD of the the teams who are no already in the playoffs. I'm really surprised that more leagues do not use breakdown record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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