bigdre13 Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 My league has three divisions; each division winner along with the next three best teams make the playoffs. We have one division that has a winner with a 5-8 record and EVERY wild card team has a better record. Do I have to give the division winner a #3 seed or can i seed him #6 since his record is so bad?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTed46 Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 My league has three divisions; each division winner along with the next three best teams make the playoffs. We have one division that has a winner with a 5-8 record and EVERY wild card team has a better record. Do I have to give the division winner a #3 seed or can i seed him #6 since his record is so bad?? Division leaders get #1-3 seed regardless of record Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleeping King Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 My league has three divisions; each division winner along with the next three best teams make the playoffs. We have one division that has a winner with a 5-8 record and EVERY wild card team has a better record. Do I have to give the division winner a #3 seed or can i seed him #6 since his record is so bad?? #3 Seed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 Do league rules address this? If not, would go with NFL seeding rules, which give the division winners the top seeds, then the wilcard teams the lowest seeds. Meaning the division winner with the worst record gets the #3 seed. Does not matter that all the wildcard teams have a better record than this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Country Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 Do league rules address this? If not, would go with NFL seeding rules, which give the division winners the top seeds, then the wilcard teams the lowest seeds. Meaning the division winner with the worst record gets the #3 seed. Does not matter that all the wildcard teams have a better record than this. This IMO.. and clarify league rules in the offseason to prevent any confusion or to change this of the league prefers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate lookin' at 40 Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Agreed, division winners seeded 1-3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Waterboy Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 I'm starting to think that divisions really suck. As if fantasy weren't arbitrary enough. 5-8? What a joke. At least, he probably won't get a BYE at #3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABearWithFurniture Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 5-8? What a joke. At least, he probably won't get a BYE at #3. W/L record in not the true 'tale of the tape'...biggest factor IMHO in FF is the 'points against' column. If you are the 2nd highest scoring team week in and week out, but you happen to play the highest scoring team your W/L record will suck... There's almost always at least 1 of those teams in every league, every year... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonedaddies Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 #1- Rules should be set prior to season #2- Division winners should be 1,2,3 #3- I would love to be the #6 seed To the above point on the "biggest factor" In my league all three division winners had the least "points against" Also, we had for the first time ever, all three WC teams come from the same division, all 8-5. I again have positioned myself for a run at the Toilet Bowl with a disturbing 3-10 mark! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biscuit Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Do league rules address this? If not, would go with NFL seeding rules, which give the division winners the top seeds, then the wilcard teams the lowest seeds. Meaning the division winner with the worst record gets the #3 seed. Does not matter that all the wildcard teams have a better record than this. Agreed. Seed #3 unless your league rules address otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electricrelish Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 (edited) I'm starting to think that divisions really suck. As if fantasy weren't arbitrary enough. 5-8? What a joke. At least, he probably won't get a BYE at #3. Divisions are used to create rivalries and to add another level of complexity to the game. This is the reason why the NFL has divisions. They make it a local affair. It's not necessary in fantasy. You could just pick the top 6 seeds or top 4. However, I like divisions, although it does make it more difficult. In a 16-team dynasty league, my division had three winning teams with one not making the playoffs due to the tie breaker. The team that didn't make it had the same record as several other teams in other divisions, but lost the total pts tie-breaker by 2.4 pts. It makes more games matter in different ways. Of course, it's all fantasy, cause you really can't play them any differently. A 5-8 team making it to the playoffs. The only good thing is that it shows that it's still possible to get it, and to not give up. Plus, getting hot at the right time can mean a lot. Again, it's not really fair, but it's the game. That said, many leagues don't use divisions anymore. Edited December 8, 2009 by electricrelish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 (edited) In one of my leagues we have 4 divisions of 3 teams. 4 division winners make the playoffs and 2 wildcards. There are several reasons we went to this format - it allows every team to play division opponents twice and every other team once without going to a double header week and without playing week 17. It also means that teams can stay in the race longer as they only have to get ahead of the two teams in their division to make the playoffs. There are definite pluses and minues to this approach. I do like the H2H format with divisions but on the occassion that a wildcard team misses the playoffs with a better record than a division winner it is kind of lame (although that happened when we had 3 divisions of 4 teams as well). [ETA] The one concession I did get though was to restructure the payouts. When we were 3 divisions of 4 teams there was a payout for winning the division and a smaller payout for winning a wildcard spot. Then there were payouts based on how far you got into the playoffs. With the new division format we changed it so the only thing winning your division does is impact playoff seeding. All money is based 100% on where you finished in the playoffs 1 though 6. Edited December 8, 2009 by Grits and Shins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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