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No CBA/Uncapped Year Questions


Capt. Stanky
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Maybe this isn't the best section of the huddle forums for this, but it's certainly the most active. I was talking to a buddy over the weekend about what we could expect in 2010 if it is indeed an uncapped year. I figured it would be a good topic to mull over on the huddle. One thing we were wondering is if there would be anything in place preventing teams from front loading contracts. Specifcally, why wouldn't teams sign all their contracts this year with the bulk of the money in year one? Also, is their anything preventing teams from putting all the money they would normally pay out as a signing bonus as just 2010 years base salary? I know players would probably be reluctant to sign such a contract, but it would mean that after this 1 uncapped year the team could sever tyes with said player without taking a cap hit. We figured their would be something in place preventing such a contract. Anyone have any ideas on that? Feel free to add any other questions you might have about the uncapped year.

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The requirements for the teams that played in the divisional round are very interesting. The requirements for teams that play in the conference championships even more so. It severely restricts their ability to sign free agents period.

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Under Article XXI, Section 3 of the CBA, the Cowboys, Cardinals, Vikings, Saints, Jets, Ravens, Chargers, and Colts will be limited in their ability to sign unrestricted free agents in 2010.

 

First, the Final Eight teams may sign any unrestricted free agent who obtained that status by being released and clearing waivers.

 

Second, the Final Eight teams may sign any unrestricted free agent who was under contract with that team at the conclusion of the 2009 league year.

 

Third, one unrestricted free agent may be signed for each unrestricted free agent that a Final Eight team loses, but only at the same first-year salary the departed player receives elsewhere, with limitations on future growth of the deal.

 

Fourth, the Final Eight teams may sign one unrestricted free agent at a first-year salary of $4.925 million (plus the annual percentage increases in total football revenue since 2006), and an unlimited number unrestricted free agents at a first-year salary of $3.275 million (plus the percentage increases of total football revenue since 2006), with limitations on future growth of the deal.

 

The teams that win this weekend will be further limited, with the fourth option explained above disappearing.

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Also, unless you have 6 years in the league, you are a restricted free agent. 212 NFL players thought they would be unrestricted free agents after this year, their fourth. But with no CBA, they will be restricted. This includes Miles Austin, Ronnie Brown, Leonard Weaver, Stephen Gostkowski, Nick Collins, Logan Mankins, Brandon Marshall, Kyle Orton, Elvis Dumervil, Shawne Merriman, DeMeco Ryans, Owen Daniels, Bernard Pollard, LenDale White, Charlie Johnson, and Antoine Bethea.

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WASHINGTON -- Miles Austin of Dallas, Brandon Marshall of Denver and six other Pro Bowl picks are among more than 200 NFL players who would lose their status as unrestricted free agents this offseason if the league and its union can't agree on a new labor contract.

 

According to a list obtained by The Associated Press on Wednesday, there are 212 players who would be considered restricted free agents -- instead of unrestricted -- if there is no salary cap in 2010. There is at least one player from each of the NFL's 32 teams on the list.

 

In an uncapped year, a player would need at least six years in the NFL, up from the current minimum of four years in the league, to be an unrestricted free agent able to sign with any team.

 

Pro Bowl linebackers Elvis Dumervil of Denver and DeMeco Ryans of Houston are in the group of potentially affected players, as are starting quarterbacks Kyle Orton of Denver and Jason Campbell of Washington.

 

"Free agency's always been something for the players, always been a great thing. If you get one crack at free agency as a player, that's what you dream of," Orton said before Denver practiced Wednesday. "How it stands right now ... guys aren't going to be able to have that dream, to be a free agent. That's a shame for the players, I think."

 

In an uncapped year, a player would need at least six years in the NFL, up from the current minimum of four years in the league, to be an unrestricted free agent able to sign with any team.

 

Dallas receiver Austin was aware his free agency status could change, but said he wouldn't consider his breakout season bad timing.

 

"I can't control any of that," he said. "I've just got to stay focused on the things I can control, and that's playing this week and playing hard."

 

The other players announced Tuesday as selections for this season's Pro Bowl who could find themselves missing out on a chance to cash in this offseason are Packers safety Nick Collins, Patriots guard Logan Mankins, Saints guard Jahri Evans and Eagles fullback Leonard Weaver.

 

In addition to the NFL's sacks leader (Dumervil), and the NFC's leader in yards receiving (Austin), other prominent names on the list include Chargers linebacker Shawne Merriman, Jets receiver Braylon Edwards, Colts safety Antoine Bethea, Dolphins running back Ronnie Brown and Patriots kicker Stephen Gostkowski.

 

"If you're a guy that's been in the league a long time, and you know you're pretty much set, you probably have a different opinion about it. But if you're a guy that's in my position, it's going to affect us not just short term but long term," Washington's Campbell said.

 

If they lose out on the chance to become unrestricted free agents this offseason, players might not get what they were expecting to be a huge payoff. They also won't have the luxury of moving freely anywhere in the league.

 

A restricted free agent's old club gets a chance to offer the player a one-year contract at different levels of pay that determine what level of draft-choice compensation the old club would receive for losing the player. And the old club has the right to match any offer another club makes to a restricted free agent.

 

"If you're a free agent, of course you've got a lot of options, but if you're a restricted free agent, it's pretty much the team's choice, depending on what they want to do," Campbell said.

 

Other rules changes would go into effect if there is no salary cap in 2010. There would be no minimum or maximum amounts teams could spend on payroll, and each club would get an extra "transition player" tag. A "transition player" must be offered a minimum of the average of the top 10 salaries of the prior season at the player's position or 120 percent of the player's previous year's salary, whichever is greater.

 

"All of a sudden, your rules change," said Campbell, one of seven Redskins players on the list. "That's the situation I've been dealt and so have other guys on the team."

 

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"All of a sudden, your rules change," said Campbell, one of seven Redskins players on the list. "That's the situation I've been dealt and so have other guys on the team."
No Jason, the rules haven't suddenly changed. The rules have been spelled out for some time on what is going to be changing. You (as in all players) as well as the owners have so far collectively decided not to extend your agreement with one another. If either side doesn't like the situation, it's their own collective (un)doing.
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