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NFL All-Decade Team


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Tom Brady and Peyton Manning are the obvious choices for QB.

 

Someone like Marvin Harrison at WR? Randy Moss and Terrell Owens are the obvious studs, but both had their limiting seasons based on circumstances.

 

Tony Gonzalez at TE?

 

Jason Taylor, Michael Strahan, Ray Lewis, Champ Bailey would seem like good picks on defense.

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Tom Brady and Peyton Manning are the obvious choices for QB.

 

Someone like Marvin Harrison at WR? Randy Moss and Terrell Owens are the obvious studs, but both had their limiting seasons based on circumstances.

 

Tony Gonzalez at TE?

 

Jason Taylor, Michael Strahan, Ray Lewis, Champ Bailey would seem like good picks on defense.

 

Some that might make it.....

 

Offense: Shaun Alexander????,Ocho Cinco,Andre Johnson,Hines Ward

Lineman: Larry Allen,Orlando Pace,Kevin Mawae,Jonathan Ogden,Will Shields,Alan Faneca,Steve Hutchinson

Defense: Ed Reed,Brian Urlacher,Julius Peppers,Darren Sharper,Brian Dawkins,Ronde Barber,Derrick Brooks

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Some that might make it.....

 

Offense: Shaun Alexander????,Ocho Cinco,Andre Johnson,Hines Ward

Lineman: Larry Allen,Orlando Pace,Kevin Mawae,Jonathan Ogden,Will Shields,Alan Faneca,Steve Hutchinson

Defense: Ed Reed,Brian Urlacher,Julius Peppers,Darren Sharper,Brian Dawkins,Ronde Barber,Derrick Brooks

:wacko:

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Some that might make it.....

 

Offense: Shaun Alexander????,Ocho Cinco,Andre Johnson,Hines Ward

I think the fact that Johnson didn't play the first 3 seasons of the decade will keep him off the list. He only has 42 TD's in his career. As great as he is, with 9 TD's being your best season, he isn't going to make it.

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Randy Moss had 120 TD's during the decade. He is EASILY on the team (probably number one at his position). So he averaged 3 more touchdowns per season than Andre Johnson had in his best season. Sick really.

2004 49 receptions 767 yards

2006 42 receptions 553 yards 3 touchdowns

 

Anyone who quits for seasons at a time in my opinion, shouldn't be on the list. And my no.1 WR for the decade would be Torry Holt.

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2004 49 receptions 767 yards

2006 42 receptions 553 yards 3 touchdowns

 

Anyone who quits for seasons at a time in my opinion, shouldn't be on the list. And my no.1 WR for the decade would be Torry Holt.

How the hell can anyone argue with 120 TD's over a ten year period....regardless of the 'exceptions' you can find. No way he isn't on the team. Must remove emotion from the equation. He was by far the most prolific wide receiver of the decade.

 

So Torry Holt had 68 TD's during the decade. Randy Moss had more than Holt and Andre Johnson COMBINED...but because you found a couple of seasons where Moss' total's weren't great he should be left off the team. Oh and you failed to mention that of the 49 receptions in 2004 that Moss had 13 went for touchdowns (more than Torry Holt has ever had in one season). Honestly, it's foolish to think that Moss shouldn't be on the team regardless of how many people he ran over...plays he took off...etc. His stats are staggering. :

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How the hell can anyone argue with 120 TD's over a ten year period....regardless of the 'exceptions' you can find. No way he isn't on the team. Must remove emotion from the equation. He was by far the most prolific wide receiver of the decade.

 

So Torry Holt had 68 TD's during the decade. Randy Moss had more than Holt and Andre Johnson COMBINED...but because you found a couple of seasons where Moss' total's weren't great he should be left off the team. Oh and you failed to mention that of the 49 receptions in 2004 that Moss had 13 went for touchdowns (more than Torry Holt has ever had in one season). Honestly, it's foolish to think that Moss shouldn't be on the team regardless of how many people he ran over...plays he took off...etc. His stats are staggering. :

You're basing your entire argument on TD's alone. Receptions and yardage count as well. Realize that Torry Holt played with Marshall Faulk who was a TD monster, and also played alongside Steven Jackson, who has his share of TD's as well. I think it's foolish to find one statistic and go tunnel vision on it. That's great if you want to champion Randy Moss, but I think Torry Holt was the more complete player, who did more for his team than Randy Moss.

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You're basing your entire argument on TD's alone. Receptions and yardage count as well. Realize that Torry Holt played with Marshall Faulk who was a TD monster, and also played alongside Steven Jackson, who has his share of TD's as well. I think it's foolish to find one statistic and go tunnel vision on it. That's great if you want to champion Randy Moss, but I think Torry Holt was the more complete player, who did more for his team than Randy Moss.

I love Torry Holt...I have a pretty deep disdain for Moss as a person. But, don't discount TD's like I focused in on some obscure stat. If you're going to have 'tunnel vision' on one stat...make it touchdowns. It's too late for me to look up but I'd be surprised if Holt has more receptions and yards than Moss during the decade as well. I'm just saying he IS going to be on the team. Holt...maybe. Johnson...doubtful. Harrison...probably. Moss is the only sure thing of the bunch. Afterall, the topic is team of the decade and he is the biggest slam dunk at the position.

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10 - 1000+ yard receiving seasons - 2nd all-time

64 career 100 yard games - 2nd all-time; most recent 11-15-2009

148 touchdown receptions - 2nd all-time

77.8 receiving yards per game - 2nd all-time

149 total touchdowns scored - 4th all-time

14,465 receiving yards - 6th all-time

926 career receptions - 10th all-time

 

With the lions share of these coming in the last decade. I really can't believe that I'm arguing this.

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Tony G is the biggest lock, Moss may be next. Peyton and LT would be the others. Maybe Jason Taylor.

 

I think the hardest position is DT. Did Sapp play enough and/or play well enough this decade?

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It's too late for me to look up but I'd be surprised if Holt has more receptions and yards than Moss during the decade as well.

Then you'd be surprised. Even with a degenerative knee killing his numbers the last two years, he still has 91 more receptions and 855 yards more than Moss. Moss over that time frame has missed 6 games as Holt has missed 12 games. So Moss is more durable, but over the same time frame, Hot has been far more productive as far as receptions and yards go. I'm not saying TD's aren't important, but I also think you have to look at the teams and offenses they played with. Holt in his prime played with one of the greatest runningbacks of all time who put up 68 touchdowns in a four year span. I can assure you that Randy Moss got exponentially more looks in the redzone than Torry Holt.

All I'm saying is it isn't as cut and dry as you would like to believe.

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Then you'd be surprised. Even with a degenerative knee killing his numbers the last two years, he still has 91 more receptions and 855 yards more than Moss. Moss over that time frame has missed 6 games as Holt has missed 12 games. So Moss is more durable, but over the same time frame, Hot has been far more productive as far as receptions and yards go. I'm not saying TD's aren't important, but I also think you have to look at the teams and offenses they played with. Holt in his prime played with one of the greatest runningbacks of all time who put up 68 touchdowns in a four year span. I can assure you that Randy Moss got exponentially more looks in the redzone than Torry Holt.

All I'm saying is it isn't as cut and dry as you would like to believe.

 

How do you think Torry Holt's numbers are affected if he plays in Oakland for two years during his prime?

 

Other names I think should be on the all decade list:

 

Jonathan Ogden

Zack Thomas

Adam Vinatieri

Brian Dawkins

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Skill positions all seem like no-brainers:

 

QBs: Manning, Brady

RB: LT, Alexander (Honorable mention to Tiki Barber)

WR: Owens and Moss

TE: Gonzales

 

Looks pretty good to me.

 

I think OL stacks up like this...

 

T - Ogden, Pace

G - Allen, Hutchinson

C - Mawae

 

No clue on D, so many good players. I'm just going to assume that Ray Lewis, Strahan, Champ Bailey, and Sapp are in.

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Why? Look at his numbers, they're massive. Better than that of Moss.

Ocho

Career Stats more

Season Team Receiving Rushing Fumbles

G GS Rec Yds Avg Lng TD Att Yds Avg Lng TD FUM Lost

2009 Cincinnati Bengals 16 15 72 1,047 14.5 50 9 3 32 10.7 26 0 2 2

2008 Cincinnati Bengals 13 10 53 540 10.2 26 4 -- -- -- -- -- -- --

2007 Cincinnati Bengals 16 16 93 1,440 15.5 70T 8 6 47 7.8 16 0 2 1

2006 Cincinnati Bengals 16 16 87 1,369 15.7 74T 7 6 24 4.0 8 0 1 1

2005 Cincinnati Bengals 16 16 97 1,432 14.8 70T 9 5 33 6.6 11 0 1 0

2004 Cincinnati Bengals 16 16 95 1,274 13.4 53T 9 4 39 9.8 18 0 1 0

2003 Cincinnati Bengals 16 14 90 1,355 15.1 82T 10 -- -- -- -- -- -- --

2002 Cincinnati Bengals 16 14 69 1,166 16.9 72T 5 -- -- -- -- -- -- --

2001 Cincinnati Bengals 12 3 28 329 11.8 28 1 -- -- -- -- -- -- --

TOTAL 684 9,952 14.5 82 62 24 175 7.3 26 0 7 4

 

Moss

Career Stats more

Season Team Receiving Rushing Fumbles

G GS Rec Yds Avg Lng TD Att Yds Avg Lng TD FUM Lost

2009 New England Patriots 16 16 83 1,264 15.2 71T 13 -- -- -- -- -- 2 1

2008 New England Patriots 16 16 69 1,008 14.6 76T 11 2 0 0.0 2 0 3 2

2007 New England Patriots 16 16 98 1,493 15.2 65T 23 -- -- -- -- -- -- --

2006 Oakland Raiders 13 13 42 553 13.2 51 3 -- -- -- -- -- -- --

2005 Oakland Raiders 16 15 60 1,005 16.8 79 8 -- -- -- -- -- -- --

2004 Minnesota Vikings 13 13 49 767 15.7 82T 13 -- -- -- -- -- 1 1

2003 Minnesota Vikings 16 16 111 1,632 14.7 72 17 6 18 3.0 11 0 1 1

2002 Minnesota Vikings 16 16 106 1,347 12.7 60 7 6 51 8.5 25 0 1 1

2001 Minnesota Vikings 16 16 82 1,233 15.0 73T 10 3 38 12.7 18 0 -- --

2000 Minnesota Vikings 16 16 77 1,437 18.7 78T 15 3 5 1.7 9 0 2 0

1999 Minnesota Vikings 16 16 80 1,413 17.7 67T 11 4 43 10.8 15 0 3 3

1998 Minnesota Vikings 16 11 69 1,313 19.0 61T 17 1 4 4.0 4 0 2 1

TOTAL 926 14,465 15.6 82 148 25 159 6.4 25 0 15 10

 

Obviously, we have to take away years 98 and 99 from Moss and subtract those numbers from his totals. I'm not going to do a lot of math and/or calculate all the averages and stuff, but I think Rec would be 777. Yds is 11,739. TDs is 120 after you take away those two seasons. Moss beats Ocho in all three categories and nearly doubles him up in TDs. I will grant you that Ocho's numbers were better than I initially thought(so perhaps I need to retract the :wacko: from my original post) but I think you also need to take back saying Ocho's numbers are better than Moss'

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How do you think Torry Holt's numbers are affected if he plays in Oakland for two years during his prime?

 

Other names I think should be on the all decade list:

 

Jonathan Ogden

Zack Thomas

Adam Vinatieri

Brian Dawkins

I think he would have had a ton more receptions than Randy Moss. I don't discount the TD's, but the guy quit for two years.

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