kenny Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 (edited) Top 30 1. Chris Johnson 2. Adrian Peterson 3. Ray Rice 4. Maurice Jones-Drew 5. Michael Turner 6. Frank Gore 7. Steven Jackson 8. Andre Johnson 9. Jamaal Charles 10. Randy Moss 11. Cedric Benson 12. Larry Fitzgerald 13. Joseph Addai 14. Drew Brees 15. Ryan Grant 16. Peyton Manning 17. Reggie Wayne 18. Aaron Rodgers 19. Desean Jackson 20. Miles Austin 21. Rashard Mendenhall 22. Deangelo Williams 23. Roddy White 24. Brandon Marshall 25. Tom Brady 26. Matt Forte 27. Vincent Jackson 28. Sidney Rice 29. Marques Colston 30. Pierre Thomas Who do you think should be on here that isn't? Who is too high/low? Edited February 11, 2010 by kenny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electricrelish Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Standard or PPR? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpholmes Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Standard or PPR? Dynasty of Redraft? IDP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentastic Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 I still take ADP first overall. He's the superior talent, IMO and the safer pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny Posted February 11, 2010 Author Share Posted February 11, 2010 I still take ADP first overall. He's the superior talent, IMO and the safer pick. Standard No PPr and no IDP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny Posted February 11, 2010 Author Share Posted February 11, 2010 It's time for you to join a dynasty league yea i know. im the commish of my league and last year we dicided to do keeper. im hoping that after a few years everyone likes it and well step it up to dynasty. at this point theres only 4 people in our league that want dynasty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pig devilz Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 he's the Anti-Muto........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny Posted February 12, 2010 Author Share Posted February 12, 2010 You're only in one league?! That's really odd! i do one league for money. then ill do a couple public leagues on yahoo. I dont like have too many going because youll be routing for someone in one league and then realize your going against them in another. i think it takes the fun out of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Dick Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Busch Light or Coors Light? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJV Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Depending, of course, the situation in CLE, I think J. Harrison belongs in the top 15. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffraff Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Who do you think should be on here that isn't? Who is too high/low? Nice effort. No glowing omissions based on the 2009 final rankings and schedule. However, you may want to adjust for the 2010 schedule. Example: Chargers played NYG, PHI, DAL, WAS, CIN, PIT, BAL, and CLE in 2009, in 2010 they get STL, ARI, SF, SEA, IND, HOU, TEN, and JAC. On the surface that looks like a big difference in defensive prowess. Obviously can't factor in coaching changes, draft picks, or free agency yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordanzs Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 I would heckle anyone in my league who would draft Addai before Brees. I would move Addai lower, as I think that Donald Brown will progress, and Addai isn't that great anyways. For sure I'd take Mendenhall over him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theprofessor Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 Top 301. Chris Johnson 2. Adrian Peterson 3. Ray Rice 4. Maurice Jones-Drew 5. Michael Turner 6. Frank Gore 7. Steven Jackson 8. Andre Johnson 9. Jamaal Charles 10. Randy Moss 11. Cedric Benson 12. Larry Fitzgerald 13. Joseph Addai 14. Drew Brees 15. Ryan Grant 16. Peyton Manning 17. Reggie Wayne 18. Aaron Rodgers 19. Desean Jackson 20. Miles Austin 21. Rashard Mendenhall 22. Deangelo Williams 23. Roddy White 24. Brandon Marshall 25. Tom Brady 26. Matt Forte 27. Vincent Jackson 28. Sidney Rice 29. Marques Colston 30. Pierre Thomas Who do you think should be on here that isn't? Who is too high/low? Mr. Addai in the Top 15? He would rank in the 40's on my list, barely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinity Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 (edited) You're taking DeSean or Miles austin over D. Will? I'm using a first rounded on D. Will soon Benson should be higher then Moss especially because you have no idea what Moss will be like next season. Addai....too HIgh Grant...too High Edited February 13, 2010 by Infinity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny Posted February 17, 2010 Author Share Posted February 17, 2010 You're taking DeSean or Miles austin over D. Will? I'm using a first rounded on D. Will soon Benson should be higher then Moss especially because you have no idea what Moss will be like next season. Addai....too HIgh Grant...too High i dont know if you realized but Jonathan Stewart had more fantasy points than D Will this year. He's gonna keep getting better and I wouldn't be suprised if he become the featured back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTed46 Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 i dont know if you realized but Jonathan Stewart had more fantasy points than D Will this year. He's gonna keep getting better and I wouldn't be suprised if he become the featured back taz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 (edited) taz? Just traded for Stew in AFL. Giddy as a 10yr old school girl. Seems we have another Stew Hugger huh? I gotta talk to 2v about Stews ranking. Edited February 18, 2010 by tazinib1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 i dont know if you realized but Jonathan Stewart had more fantasy points than D Will this year. He's gonna keep getting better and I wouldn't be suprised if he become the featured back the only reason why JS had more than DW is because Williams was injured over much of the final six weeks and missed three games entirely. Stewart had 120, 206 and 125 yards in those games. Apples to apples is the first 12 weeks when DW rushed 197-1022, 7 TDs and DW rushed for 119-544, 6 TD. DW had 5.2 YPG though then and JS had 4.5. It is a committee backfield and Williams has been the better runner. Stewart was given three games with more than 25 carries there at the end when DW was out injured to boost his numbers. Stewart is definitely a factor, but there is no reason to believe he is going to be the primary back there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slugs3511 Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 I believe in a ppr league that those 4 are the top 4 , except AP, I would drop him to 4th overall in ppr league...Simply bc he does not catch as many out of the backfield as those.... I would also like to see my sleeper in Forte be a little bit higher, he should be in the 2nd round.....He will be a better player this year with Martz, who hates TEs, and the guy with the pencil in his ear....They definately need a guard and a RT, however, he will be close to a top ten back this year.....He had 57 receptions last year which is in the top 4 overall for RBs, and he will only get better.... I believe the rest is quite good though.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Apples to apples is the first 12 weeks when DW rushed 197-1022, 7 TDs and DW rushed for 119-544, 6 TD. DW had 5.2 YPG though then and JS had 4.5. It is a committee backfield and Williams has been the better runner. Stewart was given three games with more than 25 carries there at the end when DW was out injured to boost his numbers. Stewart is definitely a factor, but there is no reason to believe he is going to be the primary back there. Hard to call it apples to apples when JStew played the entire year with a turf toe injury that had him limited at best. When both were active, they played DWill more so as to not further injure Stewart. When DW got hurt, they had no choice but to lean on Stewart....and even playing with a painful injury, he delivered more than anyone could have imagined. In fact, Carolina played its best football down the stretch with Stewart carrying the load. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTed46 Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Hard to call it apples to apples when JStew played the entire year with a turf toe injury that had him limited at best. When both were active, they played DWill more so as to not further injure Stewart. When DW got hurt, they had no choice but to lean on Stewart....and even playing with a painful injury, he delivered more than anyone could have imagined. In fact, Carolina played its best football down the stretch with Stewart Matt Moore carrying the load. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Matt Moore carrying the load JStew: Week 15: 25 carries, 109 yards, 1 TD, 2 rec., 14 yards, 1 TD Week 16: 28 carries 206 yards, 1 TD, 2 rec., 16 yards Week 17: 16 carries, 125 yards, 1 TD Pretty impressive. Not sure you can say Moore "carried the load" in those games, especially when he didn't eclipse 175 yards passing in two of the three games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 JStew: Week 15: 25 carries, 109 yards, 1 TD, 2 rec., 14 yards, 1 TD Week 16: 28 carries 206 yards, 1 TD, 2 rec., 16 yards Week 17: 16 carries, 125 yards, 1 TD Pretty impressive. Not sure you can say Moore "carried the load" in those games, especially when he didn't eclipse 175 yards passing in two of the three games. 25 and 28 carries - he will never see that without DW out again. He won't see half that much. Plus consider who he was facing: HOME vs. TB 26-120, 1 TD (DW rushed for 30-152, 2 TD at TB in week 6) HOME vs MIN 25-109, 1 TD (not bad though at home and Bucs allowed 25 carries and he only had 4.0 YPC) At NYG 28-206, 1 TD (Giants allowed 44+ points in three of last four games in their horrible finish to the season) HOME vs NO 16-125, 1 TD ( Saints played no starters in week 17 and DW rushed for 21-149,, 2 TD as a visitor in NO) The numbers were nice but I would not credit him with doing anything more than DW would have done. In two cases, DW had already done much mroe as the visitor against the same team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 25 and 28 carries - he will never see that without DW out again. He won't see half that much. Plus consider who he was facing: HOME vs. TB 26-120, 1 TD (DW rushed for 30-152, 2 TD at TB in week 6) HOME vs MIN 25-109, 1 TD (not bad though at home and Bucs allowed 25 carries and he only had 4.0 YPC) At NYG 28-206, 1 TD (Giants allowed 44+ points in three of last four games in their horrible finish to the season) HOME vs NO 16-125, 1 TD ( Saints played no starters in week 17 and DW rushed for 21-149,, 2 TD as a visitor in NO) The numbers were nice but I would not credit him with doing anything more than DW would have done. In two cases, DW had already done much mroe as the visitor against the same team. hater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 The numbers were nice but I would not credit him with doing anything more than DW would have done. In two cases, DW had already done much mroe as the visitor against the same team. I agree...but my post was more in reponse to MrTed's claim that Matt Moore "carried the load" (and not Stewart) in the final month of the season. The stats clearly prove otherwise. But in regard to your note about DWill "had already done much more as the visitor against the same team"....I will point to my prior post a few back: that the reason DWill got a lot more carries earlier in the year was the fact that Stewart was battling a painful Achilles injury. Only an idiot would allow a 100% healthy RB to split time with another RB who hadn't practiced all week, and was battling an injury. Of course DWill had more carries and better numbers, early on. However, when Stewart got 100% of the carries, yet still at only 75% health, he was pretty impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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