loaf Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Let the Derek Anderson derby commence! http://bleacherreport.com/articles/359441-...-to-brady-quinn I wonder what the new unis for the Cleveland SeaJets will look like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 I wonder what the new unis for the Cleveland SeaJets will look like? Hopefully not the bright green the Seahawks wore for a game last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nlsmike Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 I need to look into this a bit before going out and really weighing in on the topic but if Holmgren wanted him there he is going to want him to play in Cleveland as well. I really do not think Wallace is the answer as a short term or long term solution. Will be interesting to see what ends up happening in Cleveland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearBroncos Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 I need to look into this a bit before going out and really weighing in on the topic but if Holmgren wanted him there he is going to want him to play in Cleveland as well. I really do not think Wallace is the answer as a short term or long term solution. Will be interesting to see what ends up happening in Cleveland. I haven't read anything of this aquisition yet, but I honestly would't think that Holmgren would be getting Wallace for the starting position. Wallace is a career backup, but a solid one. Not like Carr! I just don't see him as a valid starter for a whaling browns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpholmes Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 (edited) Let the Derek Anderson derby commence!http://bleacherreport.com/articles/359441-...-to-brady-quinn I wonder what the new unis for the Cleveland SeaJets will look like? The guy who wrote that article had never heard of Seneca Wallace before? I haven't read anything of this aquisition yet, but I honestly would't think that Holmgren would be getting Wallace for the starting position. Wallace is a career backup, but a solid one. Not like Carr! I just don't see him as a valid starter for a whaling browns Wallace won't come in and start at QB - he's just a veteran guy that knows Holmgrem's system and can help the younger guys like Quinn grasp it quicker. He also brings a lot of speed to the QB position. Holmgrem used to split him out wide (he actually caught a pass in the Super Bowl) to create confusion for the defense, before the days of Wildcat. Wouldn't be surprised at all to see some trickery with Cribbs and Wallace on the field at the same time. Just a new GM bringing some of his guys in to set the tone and help rebuild. I love the move personally. Edited March 9, 2010 by kpholmes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Agreed - Wallace is just a decent backup and nothing more. And that is a good thing to have. Not like Wallace is going to hold out for money ever or demand a starting job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawks21 Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Are the Browns even running Holmgren's offense? Just a sidenote...don't expect Seneca to play ANY WR in Cleveland. Holmgren did it for the Super Bowl, but was incredibly reluctant about playing Seneca out wide. Holmgren was determined to make him a QB. He would always practice a little at WR but never get in the games. The media here used to ride and ride Holmgren about it. All we ever heard was Seneca is "the best athlete on the team", yet we never ever tried to use that athleticism except the one catch in the Super Bowl. Fast forward to 2008. The Seahawks WR's are dropping like flies. Burleson is out, Branch is out, Engram was out, Logan Payne was out, Obomanu was out. Holmgren finally bites the bullet and is going to give Seneca a big role at WR. The very first game of this experiment, Seneca gets hurt in warmups and can't be the backup QB. Hasselbeck ends up getting hurt that game, so Holmgren is stuck with the Charlie Frye disaster for 2 weeks as his starting QB. Holmgren was talking to himself for weeks. He was so mad that he let himself risk his backup QB to play WR. There is no way he would ever let that happen again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nlsmike Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 I kind of disagree on him not playing as the starting QB in Cleveland if you ask me. He has some experience doing it and Holmgren needs to have someone to mentor either Quinn or a drafted player. I am sure he is quite fine with riding Wallace for a few minutes to get someone used to being the man there. Holmgren has proven in the past that he will go out and get what he wants at the QB position I see this as being no different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulOttCarruth Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 I kind of disagree on him not playing as the starting QB in Cleveland if you ask me. He has some experience doing it and Holmgren needs to have someone to mentor either Quinn or a drafted player. I am sure he is quite fine with riding Wallace for a few minutes to get someone used to being the man there. Holmgren has proven in the past that he will go out and get what he wants at the QB position I see this as being no different. I also wouldn't dismiss Wallace as a potential starter in Cleveland. In his two previous stops, Holmgren's pattern has been to trade for a QB in the first year. Both ended up as the starter (Favre and Hasselbeck). Why can't Wallace be the next Hasselbeck? He's more accomplished than Hass was coming out of GB. Plus Wallace has a huge edge over Quinn since he knows the system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackass Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 I also wouldn't dismiss Wallace as a potential starter in Cleveland. In his two previous stops, Holmgren's pattern has been to trade for a QB in the first year. Both ended up as the starter (Favre and Hasselbeck). Why can't Wallace be the next Hasselbeck? He's more accomplished than Hass was coming out of GB. Plus Wallace has a huge edge over Quinn since he knows the system. Wallace is not a starting qb. He was barely an adequate backup last year when he filled in for Hassellbeck. I guess Holmgren likes him but if he's starting, the browns will be in trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zooty Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Wallace is not a starting qb. He was barely an adequate backup last year when he filled in for Hassellbeck. I guess Holmgren likes him but if he's starting, the browns will be in trouble. I'm not sure Wallace could be much worse than Quinn. And I don't understand the "knows the system" thoughts. Holmgren isn't running the team or the offense, he's just the GM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Why can't Wallace be the next Hasselbeck? Hasselbeck was an unknown commodity with zero starts coming out of Green Bay. Seneca has had 14 starts over the last 4 seasons and he has clearly proven he is nothing more than a capable backup. If he had a shot at becoming the next Hasselbeck, he would still be in Seattle, playing behind the soon to be 35 year old starter, awaiting his opportunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted March 10, 2010 Author Share Posted March 10, 2010 The fans are ruthless and don't deserve a winner," Anderson wrote to the paper. "I will never forget getting cheered when I was injured. I know at times I wasn't great. I hope and pray I'm playing when my team comes to town and (we) roll them. Play better, bitter man. I don't condone cheering when someone's injured but someone needs the waaaambulance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulOttCarruth Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 I'm not sure Wallace could be much worse than Quinn. And I don't understand the "knows the system" thoughts. Holmgren isn't running the team or the offense, he's just the GM According to this, Holmy is planning to implement the WCO in Cleveland from the get-go. http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/...he_tools_a.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Imagine Wallace and Cribbs on the same field. Seahawk fans wanted Wallace as something more than a backup QB for 7 seasons. Holmgren thought he was too valuable rather than risk injury being Slash or doing Wildcat formation stuff. Seems like his value as a QB is higher in Cleveland than it ever was behind Hasselbeck. I think it's will probably be one of those minor trades that probably benefits both teams. Wallace's development was done in Seattle and they might be able to get a 4th or 5th round pick for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayestunod Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Wallace is better than Quinn, hands down. Not Anderson tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayestunod Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Delhomme visiting Browns? Seneca should seriously get the nod to start here. Delhomme would be a good backup though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawks21 Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 Don't get delusional on me now. Seneca is NOT a starting QB talent. He can be okay in stretches as a game manager, but is not capable of making plays down the field. I literally don't know that he has ever made one. That said, he is better than Derek Anderson, who at this point is almost Jamarcus Russell type bad. Between Wallace, Delhomme and Quinn, don't you have to give Quinn another shot? Any chance they draft Claussen if available? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 (edited) Quinn didn't have anywhere near a fair shot to win the job. He hasn't even had the equivelent of one season under his belt ie starting and more than a few great QBs started out worse. But as they say, new regimes (GM, HC) often mean new QBs unless you already have a good one so Quinn is SOL. Who knows maybe he'll be a career backup, but if I were - oh say the Colts - I'd jump all over him on the cheap as such a backup, assuming he would be pretty cheap tho, not sure just where that would fall. Edited March 12, 2010 by BeeR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooknladder Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 Play better, bitter man.I don't condone cheering when someone's injured but someone needs the waaaambulance Agreed. he's lucky they did'nt throw beer bottles at him. (at least the fans can hit the field with a beer bottle, which is more than can be said for him) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muck Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 I think this thread title is racist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydofRosedale Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 I think this thread title is racist. lol yeeeeah.... seneca wallace could be useful in that wildcat set they tried to run with cribbs, but beyond that....he's fairly useless. I'd love to see a straight up competition between quinn and delhomme, but thats just me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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