Square Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 I know it's crazy, but I have MJD and Rice as my 1 and 2 this year with Johnson behind that. Oh, you're crazy but I don't think that has much to do with it. Seems like pretty much every year the #1 RB taken doesn't finish #1. So you could make a case for any of those three and still have someone taken later finish higher. This thread seems crazy (on paper) to worry about an UFA taking meaningful carries away from the #1 stud last year. But is it crazy like a Cliaz, or crazy like a fox.... Right now, my vote is puddy since I'm sure I won't have a chance to take Johnson in any of my redrafts and I don't think Blount would get drafted so I can WW him if things look promising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooknladder Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 I know it's crazy, but I have MJD and Rice as my 1 and 2 this year with Johnson behind that. Disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ernie McCracken Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 http://nashvillecitypaper.com/content/spor...game-reputation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted June 17, 2010 Author Share Posted June 17, 2010 http://nashvillecitypaper.com/content/spor...game-reputation Well, good then. Vince Young is acting as a role model and a mentor for Blount. Nothing but good could possibly come out of that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddahj Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 Well, good then. Vince Young is acting as a role model and a mentor for Blount. Nothing but good could possibly come out of that... At least he'll show him how to "make it rain" the right way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flemingd Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 At least he'll show him how to "make it rain" the right way. They can work on their punching techniques together as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 Well, good then. Vince Young is acting as a role model and a mentor for Blount. Nothing but good could possibly come out of that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tford Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 (edited) The possibility of a holdout by CJ worries me moreso than the presence of Blount. I'm convinced that Blount makes the team and even the active roster. Here's the RB corps for the Titans right now. Ringer, Javon RB ACT 5'9" 205 2/2/1987 2 Michigan StateRose, William RB ACT 6'1" 236 3/23/1987 0 Florida AtlanticPearman, Alvin RB ACT 5'10" 204 8/10/1982 6 VirginiaBlount, LeGarrette RB ACT 6'0" 241 12/5/1986 0 OregonLindsay, Dominic RB RES 5'10" 201 12/8/1986 0 East CarolinaJohnson, Chris RB ACT 5'11" 200 9/23/1985 3 East CarolinaJohnson, Stafon RB ACT 5'11" 214 2/6/1988 0 USCHall, Ahmard FB ACT 5'11" 242 11/13/1979 5 Texas Who is going to be the big back? Ahmard Hall? I doubt it. I think you'll see Blount get a shot on this team. The big guy has tons more talent than LenDale White IMO and is a serious threat to CJ. Why? If CJ holds out, Jeff FIsher is forced to roll with Javon Ringer and LeGarrette Blount (barring an Alvin Pearman renaissance or a stellar camp by Stafon Johnson). Javon Ringer is not going to get goal lines and short yardage. Zero chance of that happening. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Blount gets 1st and 2nd down carries as well. If you see Blount start to excel a bit early in the season with CJ holding out, I'm not so sure even the great Chris Johnson returns to 75+% of the carries. Can't back any of this up really. It's a gut call. Just saying that I see Blount getting a shot in a couple different scenarios and anyone who's seen this kid run knows he has the talent and the build to stick in the NFL. Edit: I drafted LeGarrette Blount in multiple leagues this year. Edited June 18, 2010 by Tford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted June 18, 2010 Author Share Posted June 18, 2010 The possibility of a holdout by CJ worries me moreso than the presence of Blount. I'm convinced that Blount makes the team and even the active roster. Here's the RB corps for the Titans right now. Ringer, Javon RB ACT 5'9" 205 2/2/1987 2 Michigan StateRose, William RB ACT 6'1" 236 3/23/1987 0 Florida AtlanticPearman, Alvin RB ACT 5'10" 204 8/10/1982 6 VirginiaBlount, LeGarrette RB ACT 6'0" 241 12/5/1986 0 OregonLindsay, Dominic RB RES 5'10" 201 12/8/1986 0 East CarolinaJohnson, Chris RB ACT 5'11" 200 9/23/1985 3 East CarolinaJohnson, Stafon RB ACT 5'11" 214 2/6/1988 0 USCHall, Ahmard FB ACT 5'11" 242 11/13/1979 5 Texas Who is going to be the big back? Ahmard Hall? I doubt it. I think you'll see Blount get a shot on this team. The big guy has tons more talent than LenDale White IMO and is a serious threat to CJ. Why? If CJ holds out, Jeff FIsher is forced to roll with Javon Ringer and LeGarrette Blount (barring an Alvin Pearman renaissance or a stellar camp by Stafon Johnson). Javon Ringer is not going to get goal lines and short yardage. Zero chance of that happening. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Blount gets 1st and 2nd down carries as well. If you see Blount start to excel a bit early in the season with CJ holding out, I'm not so sure even the great Chris Johnson returns to 75+% of the carries. Can't back any of this up really. It's a gut call. Just saying that I see Blount getting a shot in a couple different scenarios and anyone who's seen this kid run knows he has the talent and the build to stick in the NFL. Edit: I drafted LeGarrette Blount in multiple leagues this year. I agree with your assessment completely and think you are spot on. That's almost exactly the way I see this panning out and part of why I don't think Johnson can repeat last season's success. I think that worries me a bit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 I know it's crazy, but I have MJD and Rice as my 1 and 2 this year with Johnson behind that. Not so crazy for those who think he'll hold out. In those early drafts no one would want the top pick to miss games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tford Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 I agree with your assessment completely and think you are spot on. That's almost exactly the way I see this panning out and part of why I don't think Johnson can repeat last season's success. I think that worries me a bit... What worries you? The fact that CJ might not be CJ2K this year, or that you are agreeing with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted June 18, 2010 Author Share Posted June 18, 2010 What worries you? The fact that CJ might not be CJ2K this year or that you are agreeing with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooknladder Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 The possibility of a holdout by CJ worries me moreso than the presence of Blount. I'm convinced that Blount makes the team and even the active roster. Here's the RB corps for the Titans right now. Ringer, Javon RB ACT 5'9" 205 2/2/1987 2 Michigan StateRose, William RB ACT 6'1" 236 3/23/1987 0 Florida AtlanticPearman, Alvin RB ACT 5'10" 204 8/10/1982 6 VirginiaBlount, LeGarrette RB ACT 6'0" 241 12/5/1986 0 OregonLindsay, Dominic RB RES 5'10" 201 12/8/1986 0 East CarolinaJohnson, Chris RB ACT 5'11" 200 9/23/1985 3 East CarolinaJohnson, Stafon RB ACT 5'11" 214 2/6/1988 0 USCHall, Ahmard FB ACT 5'11" 242 11/13/1979 5 Texas Who is going to be the big back? Ahmard Hall? I doubt it. I think you'll see Blount get a shot on this team. The big guy has tons more talent than LenDale White IMO and is a serious threat to CJ. Why? If CJ holds out, Jeff FIsher is forced to roll with Javon Ringer and LeGarrette Blount (barring an Alvin Pearman renaissance or a stellar camp by Stafon Johnson). Javon Ringer is not going to get goal lines and short yardage. Zero chance of that happening. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Blount gets 1st and 2nd down carries as well. If you see Blount start to excel a bit early in the season with CJ holding out, I'm not so sure even the great Chris Johnson returns to 75+% of the carries. Can't back any of this up really. It's a gut call. Just saying that I see Blount getting a shot in a couple different scenarios and anyone who's seen this kid run knows he has the talent and the build to stick in the NFL. Edit: I drafted LeGarrette Blount in multiple leagues this year. i seriously doubt CJ holds out. he may have to play his way out of this contract. is he really gonna hold out and miss an opportunity to run behind a very good O-line in an offense where he is featured? is he gonna miss camp at a rate of $16,000 a day on a already puny $550,000 contract? ESPECIALLY with Blount menacingly lurking. if CJ can come close to last years performance then a large contract becomes undeniable. i don't think he gives up a chance to control his own destiny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tford Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 i seriously doubt CJ holds out. he may have to play his way out of this contract. is he really gonna hold out and miss an opportunity to run behind a very good O-line in an offense where he is featured? is he gonna miss camp at a rate of $16,000 a day on a already puny $550,000 contract? ESPECIALLY with Blount menacingly lurking. if CJ can come close to last years performance then a large contract becomes undeniable. i don't think he gives up a chance to control his own destiny. People seriously doubted Emmitt Smith would hold out as well. Fact of the matter is that CJ knows he is the centerpiece of the offense and is going to make the least amount of salary out of any starter on offense this year. Patrick Willis' extension showed the blueprint on how to get around the 30% rule. CJ needs to force the hand of the Titans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 By Steve Wyche | NFL.com TEMPE, Ariz. -- LeGarrette Blount is pretty much all talk these days. Had that been the case 10 months ago, he might not be working so hard to convince people he’s this or that; he would have proven it by now, using his size, skill and speed to show he was worthy of being one of the top running backs taken in the NFL draft. Instead, in one of the most infamous meltdowns seen in recent athletic lore, Blount opted against diplomacy and cold-cocked trash-talking Byron Hout of Boise State after the Broncos’ season-opening upset of Blount’s Oregon Ducks. The punch set off a series of temper outbursts from the running back, who was suspended by Oregon and suffered even greater consequences by going undrafted in April. Blount is in a much better place now -- with a team, the Tennessee Titans, that needs him as much as he needs it. Everything right now is conjecture. Blount has barely practiced with the Titans because of a graduation rule that kept him away and training in Arizona until mid-June. So his words, instead of his play, are all we have to go on at this point. And to some, specifically the San Francisco 49ers, his word is hardly enough to take to the bank. He initially agreed to sign with the 49ers as a free agent but he changed course after Fisher convinced him the situation in Tennessee was perfect for him. “I know I’m one of the best running backs in this year’s draft,” said Blount, 23, between workout sessions at Champions Training Center in Tempe. “There’s not many running backs that’s 240 pounds in the NFL that can run like I run and that can do all the things athletically. I’m just excited to show everyone that I still have it. Being that I missed out on the whole season almost, I didn’t really showcase much. This is what I want to bring to the table and show everyone that I still have it just like I did in ’08.” In 2008, when Blount was a junior at Oregon after spending two seasons at East Mississippi Community College, he rushed for 1,002 yards (7.3 yards per carry) while sharing touches with Jeremiah Johnson. He was poised to be the star of the team as a senior. Instead, he played in just three games –- the season opener against Boise State and the final two, including the Rose Bowl, after being reinstated for meeting team and university guidelines. In all, he gained 82 yards on 22 carries. “All this stuff just let me know that any mistake that’s caught in the public eye can have everything stripped from you in just a split second,” Blount said. Though Blount is still upset about not being drafted, he could not have fallen into a better situation. The Titans traded short-yardage back LenDale White to Seattle and need a pile mover like Blount. Although he arrived to spring workouts late, he’s received an abundance of catch-up reps because All-Pro starter Chris Johnson is AWOL with a contract dispute. As happy as Blount is about ending up with the Titans, Fisher is equally as giddy. The coach has a high-reward, low-risk (i.e. potential big-time production/minimum financial commitment) prospect in Blount, who looks taller and leaner than his 6-foot, 240-pound frame. “He needs to have a great summer getting up to speed and in top condition so he can have a productive season,” Fisher said. There seems to be little doubt that Blount is in a good spot to make the 53-man roster and, if he pans out, the active 45-man game-day roster. Blount is no sure thing, though. If teams saw all of this in him, why didn’t anyone draft him, even with a sixth- or seventh-round pick? "Every team that I’ve ever been on had three or four running backs and I’ve always emerged as one of the best ones." “Character issues were a big concern for a lot of people,” Blount candidly acknowledges, “and me being suspended indefinitely for the season was kind of a red mark for a lot of teams.” People around the league say character issues were major red marks –- and not just for the Boise State incident. Blount had been suspended previously at Oregon for missing meetings, poor work habits and attitude. That doesn’t go over well in the NFL and it’s why Blount is going to have to prove himself with more than words and his legs to stick. During interviews at the Senior Bowl and combine, Blount says he was asked more about his commitment to the game than the dubious straight right. “I basically told everyone that coming off of my junior season, it got to me ... I just thought that I was the big man on campus,” Blount said. “They had my jersey up in the stores ... I’m used to being the best player on the team, but there was never as much publicity as there was at Oregon. They didn’t have my jersey in the stores at (East Mississippi CC) and in high school. So I let it get to me. On top of that, my girlfriend was pregnant, so it was kind of like, ‘I’m LeGarrette, why do I have to go to everything?’ It just caught up to me.” If Blount makes the Titans' final 53-man roster, what’s to say he won’t get comfortable again? The one thing he and a lot of rookies have yet to learn is that there is a waiver wire and other players become available daily who can take their place. Blount believes he’s learned a valuable lesson and won’t fall back into old habits. “I’ve experienced it, I know the consequences, I know what can happen,” he said. “I’m happy I got it out of the way before I got into the NFL. If that happens in the NFL, you don’t get paid, you get fined, you get cut.” Said Fisher: “We were all concerned but I think the university handled his situation appropriately and he responded by meeting all of the landmarks that were placed in front of him in return. We had discussions with him and his family to get a sense of where he was and how he handled things since the incident and we felt it was behind him.” Blount said he has been baited and teased since the Boise State incident, and even some of the most seemingly innocent comments have put him in situations where he’s been forced to politely walk away. He understands those types of comments won’t soon disappear, on or off the field. “I’m going to have all kinds of things said to me,” Blount said. “I’m going to get teased about it. People are going to bring it up and try to push my buttons to see if I’ll get mad or react the same way again. And I can honestly say that I won’t. I’ve seen what it’s done to me so why would I react like that again? Though he's in a good situation with the Titans, LeGarrette Blount still carries a chip on his shoulder over not getting drafted. “I’ve been out and people have asked me to take pictures of them with my fists up like I’m going to punch them. Of course, I say no. They ask me about the incident and I just say I don’t want to talk about it. It was a mistake. I shouldn’t have done it. If I had that moment back I wouldn’t react that way. I know I’m going to get the worst trash talk of any rookie this season and I have to prepare myself for it.” More than anything, Blount is going to have to play football at a high level, on special teams and at running back. Currently, there are five running backs on the Titans roster. Last year, Tennessee entered training camp with seven backs, so one or two could be added to the mix before rookies report to Nashville on July 31. Johnson is first in line. Second-year tailback Javon Ringer is in the team’s plans and he’s worked hard not to lose the few touches he’s set to receive this season. USC rookie Stafon Johnson also is in camp after recovering from a frightening neck injury that cost him most of his senior season. None have Blount’s measurables or skill set. That doesn’t mean there won’t be a minute he doesn't have to compete. “Every team that I’ve ever been on had three or four running backs and I’ve always emerged as one of the best ones,” Blount said. “I’ve never been in a battle like this. I know it’s going to be tough, but I’m in it to come out on top again.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajfalcone Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 " LeGarrette Blount still carries a chip on his shoulder over not getting drafted..." perrrrrfect!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flemingd Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 i seriously doubt CJ holds out. he may have to play his way out of this contract. is he really gonna hold out and miss an opportunity to run behind a very good O-line in an offense where he is featured? is he gonna miss camp at a rate of $16,000 a day on a already puny $550,000 contract? ESPECIALLY with Blount menacingly lurking. if CJ can come close to last years performance then a large contract becomes undeniable. i don't think he gives up a chance to control his own destiny. I don't doubt it. RB's have a shelf life that's more and more being defined by total touches/carries/pounding taken and they only get 3-4 years worth of premium earning power. Skipping a year @ $550k just means he'll have fewer carries on him at age 28/29 when he's still in prime earning time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearBroncos Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 I only hope that Blount does what some are predicting. I took a shot on the kid myself, so crossing fingers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ernie McCracken Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 http://www.tennessean.com/article/20100806...01/8060330/1027 I'm curious to see how this plays out. He's got the skill set to wow coaches in camp and preseason and would make an ideal punishing change of pace for CJ. Nothing was more unfair than the Chiefs playing Marty ball with two and a half quarters of slashing Barry Word ripping off big chunks of yardage and then they would roll out the Nigerian Nightmare to punish the defense and put the game away. I find myself rooting for Blount to make it, if only so I can watch him destroy some DB's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Stanky Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 He still has to beat out Ringer to have a chance to get on the field. I don't see it happening. I'm thinking practice squad year 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted August 6, 2010 Author Share Posted August 6, 2010 (edited) He still has to beat out Ringer to have a chance to get on the field. I don't see it happening. I'm thinking practice squad year 1. OK, I'll probably be sorry I asked, but how do you envision the 5'-9" 200 lb Ringer and the 6'-1" 240 lb Blount competing for the same portion of Johnson's workload? Edited August 6, 2010 by Bronco Billy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS Miscreant Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 OK, I'll probably be sorry I asked, but how do you envision the 5'-9" 200 lb Ringer and the 6'-1" 240 lb Blount competing for the same portion of Johnson's workload? The simple answer is, Ringer is a better more physically versatile RB than Blount. To address the point, Ringer is a very big 205 pounds. Dude squats over 600 lbs and is a physical runner. Regardless of the 35 lbs he's giving up to Blount in the tale of the tape he's still a much more physical runner than Johnson which makes him almost by definition a complementary back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ernie McCracken Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 (edited) The simple answer is, Ringer is a better more physically versatile RB than Blount. To address the point, Ringer is a very big 205 pounds. Dude squats over 600 lbs and is a physical runner. Regardless of the 35 lbs he's giving up to Blount in the tale of the tape he's still a much more physical runner than Johnson which makes him almost by definition a complementary back. But again, if you're looking for a physical presence, and I'm assuming part of your point is that Ringer is more physical than CJ, Blount is a behemoth who packages a powerful frame with huge legs and explosision through the holes at the line of scrimmage which will allow him to be a between the tackles threat for the Titans. I'm not taking anything away from Ringer, but Blount is too good to keep off the field IMO. here's a taste http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=il-18rW2muM...feature=related FWIW here's a previous post with highlights of a guy you might heard of http://forums.thehuddle.com/index.php?show...hl=This+is+what Edited August 6, 2010 by Big Ernie McCracken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted August 6, 2010 Author Share Posted August 6, 2010 The simple answer is, Ringer is a better more physically versatile RB than Blount. To address the point, Ringer is a very big 205 pounds. Dude squats over 600 lbs and is a physical runner. Regardless of the 35 lbs he's giving up to Blount in the tale of the tape he's still a much more physical runner than Johnson which makes him almost by definition a complementary back. OK, so your position is that TEN will take carries away from Johnson that are right in his strengths as a runner, and instead let Johnson have the heavy work in short yardage/goal line situations and take that pounding to get Ringer on the field. Gotcha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ernie McCracken Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 (edited) OK, so your position is that TEN will take carries away from Johnson that are right in his strengths as a runner, and instead let Johnson have the heavy work in short yardage/goal line situations and take that pounding to get Ringer on the field. Gotcha. Edited August 6, 2010 by Big Ernie McCracken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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