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Keeper Rules ?


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How does your league run your keepers?

 

We have a standard 12 team PPR 16-player roster where we can keep two players per season (not same position) for up to three years. After the season, you can trade your 3rd year keeper for a draft pick the following year. So essentially, the studs rarely go back into the draft pool - they just get moved around.

 

There is a rule being proposed that all 3rd year keepers MUST go back into the draft pool. This would theoretically help the early drafters improve their teams as the worst teams draft first based on last years standings. Is this a good rule, or does it penalize the guys loosing keepers too much? They can obviously keep someone else up to two.

 

Anybody else have similar rules? Comments?

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My local auction is a modified keeper...teams have the option of keeping one player from their season ending roster. If they have no one they want to keep or like a player from another roster better, they can make off season trades (usually involving upcoming auction dollars) to acquire the rights to that player.

 

Cost to the auction cap ($300 for 13 players) is that players auction price from the prior year, plus $5. Players who were free agents are assigned a value of $1, plus the $5.

 

If a player is kept, he cannot be kept the following season, regardless if he is traded or dropped.

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we allow owners to keep anywhere from 0 - 3 players per year and each player can only be kept by the same owner up to 3 times but those players must come from 3 different levels based on the rd they are drafted in,

Top level - 1 player from rds 1 - 6

Mid level - 1 player from rds 7 - 15

Low level - 1 player from rds 16 - 22

 

And their value goes up by 1 rd each year they are kept, so say you draft a player in rd 7 this year, then keep him for next year, well his draft value for next year would go up to 6. So then he would move from a mid level keeper this year to a top level keeper next year. So really this allows some studs to be kept but certainly a lot are not and go back into the draft.

 

After a player has been kept 3 times by the same owner they are free to either trade the player or just let them go back into the draft.

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We run a keeper system with no limitations on your MAIN keeper. If you draft Peyton Manning and choose him as your keeper, he's yours... similar to a real NFL team. However, we mix it up with a second SLEEPER keeper. Every season you're able to keep a new sleeper option from your draft in the previous year. For example, in 2008 I drafted Chris Johnson in the 7th round and chose him as my sleeper keeper. In 2009 I did not have a 7th round pick. After the season is up, you can either make your sleeper keeper your main keeper, or you have to throw them back into the pool and select a new keeper from that current season. In order for a player ot be eligible to be a sleeper keeper he must have been drafted from the 6th round or later, and must have stayed on your roster the entire season.

 

It's a lot of fun and has worked out for 3 seasons so far.

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we allow owners to keep anywhere from 0 - 3 players per year and each player can only be kept by the same owner up to 3 times but those players must come from 3 different levels based on the rd they are drafted in,

Top level - 1 player from rds 1 - 6

Mid level - 1 player from rds 7 - 15

Low level - 1 player from rds 16 - 22

 

And their value goes up by 1 rd each year they are kept, so say you draft a player in rd 7 this year, then keep him for next year, well his draft value for next year would go up to 6. So then he would move from a mid level keeper this year to a top level keeper next year. So really this allows some studs to be kept but certainly a lot are not and go back into the draft.

 

After a player has been kept 3 times by the same owner they are free to either trade the player or just let them go back into the draft.

 

That's a pretty cool system... but it does seem like it would be a headache to keep track of.

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In our league we have 1 keeper. We take the draft round minus 2, the resulting value has to be greater than 0 and that player can be kept. The resulting figure is attached to the player, so a player can be kept multiple years until his value isn't greater than 0. Therefore all players (studs) drafted in the first 2 rounds year after year cannot be kept. Aaron Rodgers was a free agent pickup in 2008 or equal to the last round in the draft (15). He was kept for 2009, 15-2=13, he will be kept this year 13-2=11 and can be kept for the next 5 years after this year then he goes back into the draft. Draft numbers stay with players if they are traded the only way to get rid of their draft value is to be waived and then a WW pickup or FA pickup or redrafted the following year. I am sure this can be adapted to multiple keepers as well.

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How does your league run your keepers?

 

We have a standard 12 team PPR 16-player roster where we can keep two players per season (not same position) for up to three years. After the season, you can trade your 3rd year keeper for a draft pick the following year. So essentially, the studs rarely go back into the draft pool - they just get moved around.

 

There is a rule being proposed that all 3rd year keepers MUST go back into the draft pool. This would theoretically help the early drafters improve their teams as the worst teams draft first based on last years standings. Is this a good rule, or does it penalize the guys loosing keepers too much? They can obviously keep someone else up to two.

 

Anybody else have similar rules? Comments?

 

Does your league have a problem with the rich staying rich and the poor staying poor or something like that? I wonder why the change is necessary?

 

On the face of it, your current rule system seems fine to me.

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That's a pretty cool system... but it does seem like it would be a headache to keep track of.

 

Not at all, we use a very simple salary cap system to help. We have 22 rds, all players drafted in the 1st rd get a salary of 2.2 million, the salary for each rd goes down by 100k after that, so 2nd rd 2.1 million, 3rd rd 2 mill and so on down to the 22nd rd whre they get 100k,

 

We also do blind bid waivers where the bids have to be in 100K increments and the highest bid gets the player and the bid becomes there salary

 

We assign the salaries to each player, then each year after the draft any player kept from the prior season gets a $100K raise(1 draft rd). The only other thing I have to do is in the contract year I put a 1, 2 or 3 based on the number of times that player has been kept in consecutive seasons by the same owner.

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Does your league have a problem with the rich staying rich and the poor staying poor or something like that? I wonder why the change is necessary?

 

On the face of it, your current rule system seems fine to me.

 

That is the perception being argued. If two teams have two studs that are at the end of the 3rd term, they often get traded between those two teams - meaning - you have to have something to get something. If you don't have anything to trade, you have to give up a draft pick to get a stud. There are options for everyone, we're just seeing if there's an alternative to getting some of these high-profile guys back in the draft pool.

 

Another option being discussed is to keep our rules as they are, but to put a "floor" on traded draft picks - such as the 5th round. Today, we're seeing "keepers" being traded for 8th-11th rounders, which is rediciously low for a high-quality player. This would still allow trading, but not at a fire-sale price.

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We can keep up to 10... all based on draft position and free agency. we are an IDP inclusive league.

 

PLayers drafted in the 1st 6 rounds AUTOMATICALLY go back to the draft pool. After round 7 we can keep 6 players. We are able to keep up tp 4 free agent aquisitions and 1 IR drafee. If you keep an IR player then only 3 free agents are eligible.

 

Here's how it works. Each player kept moves up 3 draft slots. Once that player enters the first 6 rounds it will be the final year of keeper eligibility. same hold true for free agents... and their round designation is determined by when they were picked up and how many starts they make for you. We have 2 free agent periods (as far as keeprs go). Early keepers (up to week 10, I think) will occupy either the 12th, 16th, or 20th round. After week 10 they will be 14 or 18. The early determinations are based on <25% (round 12), 26-75% (round 16), or >75% starts (round 20). So the more starts someone gives you the move value you are rewarded. The late FA's are cut at <3 (round 14) or >3 starts (round 18). Free agents are required to have a minimum of 2 starts to qualify for Keeper status. After being kept they assume the title of a drafted player and will be chosen as such the following season. For the IR players... we select 3 IR players after our active player draft. IF an IR player is never activated and just sits on IR all year... they can be kept as the 29th round pick then assume drafted player status.

 

It makes sense to take a chance on someone later in the draft looking ahead a year or 2.

 

This year I have stud keepers>>> Ryan Grant (rd 14), Matt stafford (17), Clay Matthews (18), Beanie Wells (20), Clavin Johnson (21), Greg Jennings (23), Chris Johnson (26 - former IR pick), and this years IR pick Jermichael Finley (29). Now, I took 2 FA keepers (Roddy White and Austin Miles) and traded for Aaron Rodgers (rd 22)...

 

Our free agents are awarded in reverse priority from Monday midnight to Tuesday midnight... then first come first served. At least this gives struggling teams first crack at unclaimed players.

 

So free agency and smart / lucky late round drafting has me sitting on a pretty solid start to this season. Last year I won our Fantasy Bowl and the year before I was runner up. Ive been pretty lucky!!!

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