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  1. 1. Where does the top rookie go?

    • I'd be willing in the first with the 1.11 or 1.12 maybe
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    • Definite second rounder with upside
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    • Be willing to risk a third rounder on him if he fell that far
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    • No matter what, someone else is going to want him more than I will
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How great of a situation is it really though? No Franchise left tackle, no star wide receiver...

They have a Franchise LT he just doesn't want to sign and play :wacko: I was hoping he would not be in VJax bus... I do like Malcom Floyd a lot but much better with VJax there.

 

I guess it's completely real now http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/au...eceive-letters/

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From what I have been seeing, he's not falling to the 3rd or 4th. If I'm drafting on the backend, 10,11,12 I would gamble on him early second round

 

 

or let someone else take him at a spot you think is too much....I always fault myself for over-pursuing a player on draft day...

 

I always try to have'em where I have'em...

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or let someone else take him at a spot you think is too much....I always fault myself for over-pursuing a player on draft day...

 

I always try to have'em where I have'em...

I hear ya but sometimes if you really want a guy, you gotta reach. Not planning on reaching for him , just sayin'....

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Every year there is the rookie RB that breaks out. Mathews definitely has the best situation of all of them.

 

And I know I have taken rookie RB's early before, like E James at the end of the first round his rookie year. Sometimes if you want a guy you just take him and pray, and FF is so much of a crapshoot anyway.

 

At least with Mathews you have a guy who is in an offense that cleared out a Hall of Famer to give you playing time.

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Young wheels, opportunity, and a group of veterans on his side of the ball...what's not to like? If there's ever going to be a 'reach' if you're near the 1st/2nd turn, you could do a lot worse (if all the top tier guys are gone). The hold outs aren't good but those things have a way of working out once the prospect of actually having to participate in TC fades.

 

Chargers' focus on offense is a concern but last year had more to do with a fading and slumping LT than anything else. Even if they're still pass happy, Matthews can do better than LT's 223 carries/3.3ypc. LT even had 12 TDs.

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Again . . Mathews looked really really good in the 1st preseason game. Hit hoels with authority, and didnt jitterbug like a lot of rookies do until they get comfortable.

 

Easy end of 1st/early 2nd rounder for me . .

I would agree. The question I have is did San Diego throw more because they had to due to a lack of running game, or because they want to throw more and have a more, air it out, kind of approach?

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I would agree. The question I have is did San Diego throw more because they had to due to a lack of running game, or because they want to throw more and have a more, air it out, kind of approach?

Rookie RBs typically run out of juice towards the end of the season. So while Mathews may get you to the playoffs, there is some precedence that he won't do much in your big games. Sounds expensive to me for a 1 or 2 rounder. Maybe in the third if my first two guys were solid.

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Rookie RBs typically run out of juice towards the end of the season. So while Mathews may get you to the playoffs, there is some precedence that he won't do much in your big games. Sounds expensive to me for a 1 or 2 rounder. Maybe in the third if my first two guys were solid.

 

the guy has arms built like Jamal Lewis.

 

If ANY rookie RB looks like he can go all 16 games at full bore . . . this kid is it

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Rookie RBs typically run out of juice towards the end of the season. So while Mathews may get you to the playoffs, there is some precedence that he won't do much in your big games. Sounds expensive to me for a 1 or 2 rounder. Maybe in the third if my first two guys were solid.

 

 

that's why you trade him when he can't go any higher..

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Eh. He might have a good season, but then I am concerned about this offense being more pass oriented than run oriented, and Sproles is so good with the screen pass. I think Matthews will be overrated in most drafts. I would grab him as RB3, but he's not a guy I want to bet my team's success on.

 

But he won't have to carry the load, CN...it is actually a GREAT situation to be in. I think the kid is a solid RB2...will wait till next year to see if he is RB1 material.

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http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/fa...t.htm?refresh=1

 

Usual FB Mike Tolbert ran as the Chargers' first-team tailback in goal-line situations during San Diego's preseason opener.

The Bolts lined up in the I-formation, with Tolbert as the I-back and Jacob Hester as the lead blocker. Ryan Mathews was highly impressive in the exhibition, but he may prove better in real life than in fantasy as a rookie. He's going to lose catches to Darren Sproles and goal-line work to Tolbert. August 16 - 9:32 p.m. ET

Source: San Diego Union-Tribune

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Usual FB Mike Tolbert ran as the Chargers' first-team tailback in goal-line situations during San Diego's preseason opener.

From a fantasy football standpoint that IS worrisome.

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Every year there is the rookie RB that breaks out.
That's what I thought last year when I took Moreno.

 

I like Mathews, but no way will I reach.

 

 

Young wheels, opportunity, and a group of veterans on his side of the ball...what's not to like?

- No legit WRs w/o Jackson

- Iffy OL, esp w/o McNeal

- No track record

 

Again I'm not saying I don't like him or wouldn't take him, just that's the other side of it. Should be at least respectable though. I think.

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that's why you trade him when he can't go any higher..

People are pretty paranoid in my leagues so there are very few trades. So I never draft a player with the idea that I am going to get rid of him as soon as he has a good game. But GL if your league will give you something solid for him.

 

I figure at mid 2nd round there are only a handful of players you couldn't have just drafted instead of him. :wacko: Again, with the Jackson & Mcneil holdout, 3rd down vet RB specialist Sproles, and goaline work going to Tolbert... I think people are buying into the hype. In a PPR league I'd grab a known WR in the 2nd and not think twice. If I loved my first two picks and he came back around in the 3rd, that is where I'd consider taking the risk (and it would still depend on what else is available).

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Norv has never used a designated goal-line back in the past so I'd wait and see if they continue with Tolbert in that role.

Besides, it will only take one or two screw-ups with Tolbert at RB for Mathews to permanently takeover that role. Mathews has the size so there's

no reason to think he won't be in on GL situations most of the time.

 

Its only game #1 of the preseason.

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Norv has never used a designated goal-line back in the past so I'd wait and see if they continue with Tolbert in that role.

Besides, it will only take one or two screw-ups with Tolbert at RB for Mathews to permanently takeover that role. Mathews has the size so there's

no reason to think he won't be in on GL situations most of the time.

 

Its only game #1 of the preseason.

 

If Mathews is having a great game, I just don't see him coming out...

 

Turner has been known to go where the money is at RB and he'll still use Sproles as a situational back as he's too explosive to keep on the bench, but Mathews is the total package and I think the signs are all pointing to him getting around 18-20 touches...or more a game..

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Turner has been known to go where the money is at RB and he'll still use Sproles as a situational back as he's too explosive to keep on the bench, but Mathews is the total package and I think the signs are all pointing to him getting around 18-20 touches...or more a game..

With Sproles gone next year I see even greater production in Mathews' future.

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Norv has never used a designated goal-line back in the past so I'd wait and see if they continue with Tolbert in that role.

Besides, it will only take one or two screw-ups with Tolbert at RB for Mathews to permanently takeover that role. Mathews has the size so there's

no reason to think he won't be in on GL situations most of the time.

 

Its only game #1 of the preseason.

 

I agree, and think that is more of not wanting Mathews to get hurt in a goal line scrum. Tolbert is expendable, Mathews isnt.

 

I am normally not that high on rookie backs, and they dont necessarily impress right away. Mathews breaks that mold, IMO.

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Short yardage gains?

By Kevin Acee, UNION-TRIBUNE

 

Tuesday, August 17, 2010 at 7:40 p.m.

 

“There’s not question (Tolbert) will be good in short yardage and goal line,” Turner said. “Ryan will be outstanding on goal line.”

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But he won't have to carry the load, CN...it is actually a GREAT situation to be in. I think the kid is a solid RB2...will wait till next year to see if he is RB1 material.

 

I can only repeat: He's not a guy I will bet my season on. Pretty much any rookie is too risky for me to bet my fantasy season on, and by "bet my season", I mean take in the first 3-4 rounds. There are veterans that are less risky choices.

 

I want to get out of those rounds with players that are likely to play near the top pf their respective positions. I don't make that bet on a rookie. EDIT: Unless I think the rookie is very special, for instance Adrian Peterson....and then I am still cautious about it.

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