Lucky11 Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 i've watched both installments of Hard Knocks on HBO featuring the Jets this season. in both episodes, Ryan does drop more than a few F/S/C/BS bombs while speaking to players and coaches. maybe i'm in the minority, but i don't consider this type of language out of the ordinary for a professional coach in just about any sport, let alone the NFL. so during the NBC coverage of the SF/GB game tonight, they've got Dungy up in the booth with Collinsworth and Michaels, and he's talking about how he felt it was his responsibility as a former coach, to confront Ryan about his language on the show. further, he suggested that this type of language and behavior should not be tolerated by the League, especially when "...it's on national television..." and because "...it's hard to watch with your kids." last time i checked, cable broadcasts were not "national television" and HBO is a pay channel which isn't included in the "basic" cable package. if Dungy feels this is inappropriate, and is compelled to take a stance (and confront Ryan personally) like this, shouldn't he put the responsibility of the parents to monitor what their kids are watching? does Dungy really think that parents are naive enough to believe that NFL players and coaches don't use "profane" language during the course of their day? i'm not the kind of person who goes around dropping F/S/BS bombs in front of my nephews, or little kids, but this type of language is pervasive through all walks of life and shouldn't be a shock to anyone. bottom line: Dungy needs to take a chill pill and climb down off his soapbox of judgment. now i feel better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 (edited) I think Ryan is obviously a good coach but I also think he is a total a-hole. The guy loves to throw out the look at me bravado statements and I think he is a hugh attention whore. Edited August 23, 2010 by whomper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 bottom line: Dungy needs to take a chill pill and climb down off his soapbox of judgment. Aren't you kind of standing on a soapbox judging Dungy for havin an opinion? While I don't think Ryan should be fined, I can see where Dungy is coming from with the whole players/coaches conducting themselves in a professional manner... Then again, it is TC, and if Goodell was to fine him Hard Knocks would immediatley stop getting all of the access that they get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countryroads Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 Ryan is a moron. He has put such a target on his players just by him running his mouth. Yeah they went on a cinderella run last year aided by Graham's sorry leg and Turner's coaching but once they got to a complete team they couldn't pull it off. He needs to shut up and coach and maybe when he wins something somebody might take him seriously. Yeah, thats my soap box!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 Rex Ryan is awesome!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearBroncos Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 It's Mother F'ing football. I hate dumbing this sport down like it has over the last ten years. Remember, this sport used to consist of iron workers, ditch diggers and every day Joes that went to work, got off and went to practice. Most of them talked liked drunken sailors. That's waht made them football players. Tuff somes uh biatches! Pretty soon, we'll have them all wearing tootoos! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky11 Posted August 23, 2010 Author Share Posted August 23, 2010 Aren't you kind of standing on a soapbox judging Dungy for havin an opinion? While I don't think Ryan should be fined, I can see where Dungy is coming from with the whole players/coaches conducting themselves in a professional manner... Then again, it is TC, and if Goodell was to fine him Hard Knocks would immediatley stop getting all of the access that they get. quite the contrary. i believe Dungy should have an opinion and if Ryan's behavior offends him as a former coach, representative of the NFL, a man, whatever, then Dungy should air his grievances to Ryan personally (which he did). what bothers me is that by addressing this situation in a true "national TV environment" (i.e. Sunday Night Football on NBC), Dungy laid down his judgment in a place where Ryan is not there to defend himself, and his captive audience in the studio - Michaels and Collinsworth - are not in a position to refute anything he says without coming across like jackasses during the broadcast. i won't debate whether or not Ryan is a jerk - he very well may be. but Dungy's insistence to address his distaste with how Ryan coaches in public forum comes of as judgmental. hell, why doesn't Dungy just lambaste NFL Films or NBC for every "beep" they have to lay over mic-up footage during a game. seems like he's got a boner for Ryan specifically on this topic. or maybe he's jealous that HBO didn't approach him with the "Hard Knocks" concept while he was with IND. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMikeinNY Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 The show is on at 10 pm at night. Duny has had his Metamucil and been asleep for 3 hours by the time that show starts. No way he watched it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budlitebrad Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 quite the contrary. i believe Dungy should have an opinion and if Ryan's behavior offends him as a former coach, representative of the NFL, a man, whatever, then Dungy should air his grievances to Ryan personally (which he did). what bothers me is that by addressing this situation in a true "national TV environment" (i.e. Sunday Night Football on NBC), Dungy laid down his judgment in a place where Ryan is not there to defend himself, and his captive audience in the studio - Michaels and Collinsworth - are not in a position to refute anything he says without coming across like jackasses during the broadcast. i won't debate whether or not Ryan is a jerk - he very well may be. but Dungy's insistence to address his distaste with how Ryan coaches in public forum comes of as judgmental. hell, why doesn't Dungy just lambaste NFL Films or NBC for every "beep" they have to lay over mic-up footage during a game. seems like he's got a boner for Ryan specifically on this topic. or maybe he's jealous that HBO didn't approach him with the "Hard Knocks" concept while he was with IND. He's an analyst. He was asked a question and it's his job to give an opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky11 Posted August 23, 2010 Author Share Posted August 23, 2010 He's an analyst. He was asked a question and it's his job to give an opinion. Collinsworth is an analyst. Michaels is the color guy. Dungy was a guest. I don't believe for a minute that this wasn't discussed in the pre-production meeting by all parties involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat2334 Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 He's an analyst. He was asked a question and it's his job to give an opinion. fine- then Dungy should comment on Ryan's mouth and then shut his own - for good. This is beyond lame, I admire Tony Dungy but let's get real - this is the m effing NFL - the nastiest, toughest sport played by and coached by the nastiest, rudest dogs you will ever meet. Dungy's own sideline had PM, Jeff Saturday and others arguing and cursing all the time. I can tell you as a fact his own OL coach Howard Mudd's vocabulary would make a grown man cry - this is nonsense it is a late show on cable tv - good gawd get off your moral high horse no one cares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 One question: Tony, where were you last year when Crennel went off on an F bombing raid over the Bengals' locker room last year on this show? Any particular reason you didn't rip into Crennel but found Rex so offensive as to suggest the commissioner get involved? Which don't belong and why: Ryan Crennel Dungy Vick Rothlisberger 'Nuff said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
injendsm Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 I hate Rex Ryan but I have no problem with him swearing. They're just words, after all, and kids are going to hear them regardless of whether or not their parents want them to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 Collinsworth is an analyst. Michaels is the color guy. Dungy was a guest. I don't believe for a minute that this wasn't discussed in the pre-production meeting by all parties involved. I believe Dungy is under contract with NBC and does quite a bit at the NBC studio's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duchess Jack Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 it's hard to watch with your kids." I feel you on just about every point here. Who in the world is going to show Hard Knocks to kids who can't tolderate an 'f-bomb. Half of these guys are hoods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky11 Posted August 24, 2010 Author Share Posted August 24, 2010 I believe Dungy is under contract with NBC and does quite a bit at the NBC studio's. good point. i forgot he's one of the 23 people in studio for NBC Sunday Night football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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