Footballjoe Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 (Rotoworld) Citing "several sources," FOX Sports' Jay Glazer reports that the Cardinals are actively trying to trade Matt Leinart. Analysis: The desired compensation is unclear, but Arizona has contacted multiple teams. They probably shouldn't hold out for more than a sixth-round pick with Leinart's trade stock at an all-time low. The 27-year-old's contract calls for a $2.5 million base salary in 2010, which will be prohibitive for most teams. Leinart will take time to learn another offense, and has not been open to settling for a backup job. Ultimately, he'll probably be released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 (edited) Ultimately, lol @ AZ. What, are they jealous of Cincy and don't want them to corner the mkt on bonehead moves? As stated, Leinart's trade stock is at an all-time low. He's disappointing, but they have little to gain from a trade and potentially a lot to lose. I know he's looked bad and odds are against it, but right now it's worth holding on for awhile. Start Anderson if need be, and when he continues to falter, give Leinert a shot. Edited August 31, 2010 by BeeR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 John Skelton needs to be given a chance. Great presence in the pocket, takes command of the offense and from what I have seen so far, has the respect of his team-mates while under center. Passes are crisp, great accuracy and by golly, people like him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddahj Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 John Skelton needs to be given a chance. Great presence in the pocket, takes command of the offense and from what I have seen so far, has the respect of his team-mates while under center. Passes are crisp, great accuracy and by golly, people like him. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorcher Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 That's too bad. He could've had a much longer career if he hadn't been required to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devi0us Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 I really thought Leinar would do good in the NFL...I was heartbroken a few years back when we picked Michael Huff instead if Leinart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 LOL He always was overrated ... and now Arizona wants another team to byte on the hype ... good luck. Reggie Bush was overrated too ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackass Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Ultimately, lol @ AZ. What, are they jealous of Cincy and don't want them to corner the mkt on bonehead moves? As stated, Leinart's trade stock is at an all-time low. He's disappointing, but they have little to gain from a trade and potentially a lot to lose. I know he's looked bad and odds are against it, but right now it's worth holding on for awhile. Start Anderson if need be, and when he continues to falter, give Leinert a shot. At this point, i really think they're only choice is trade or cut him. They've obviously seen enough where they have no confidence in him at all. Otherwise they would've given him a few starts at least. Plus, this is the second time this happened in 3 years. He's done in AZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentastic Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 That's too bad. He could've had a much longer career if he hadn't been required to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUMbotron Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 5 Teams That Could Use Leinart http://bleacherreport.com/articles/447447-...former-1st-roun Patriots backup? Make sense. The problem with trading Leinart is his contract -- It's got a $7.3 million balloon salary in 2011. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 John Skelton needs to be given a chance. Great presence in the pocket, takes command of the offense and from what I have seen so far, has the respect of his team-mates while under center. Passes are crisp, great accuracy and by golly, people like him. So, how many of your dynasty teams do ya got Skelton on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffraff Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 (edited) So, how many of your dynasty teams do ya got Skelton on? Willing to go out on a limb and say that he doesn't own Hall on any. Skelton is having a hard time beating out the unknown commodity for the #3 job. Rotoworld: According to ESPN's Chris Mortensen, the Cardinals see some "Kurt Warner qualities" in undrafted rookie QB Max Hall.Hall has a been a "tremendous surprise" outplaying fellow rookie John Skelton throughout camp, and it wouldn't be surprising to see him with a couple of spot starts late in the season. Mort joins NFL Network's Mike Lombardi in speculating that Matt Leinart won't be on the final roster because the Cardinals don't want to lose one of the rookies on waivers. Edited September 1, 2010 by Riffraff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackass Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 5 Teams That Could Use Leinarthttp://bleacherreport.com/articles/447447-...former-1st-roun Patriots backup? Make sense. The problem with trading Leinart is his contract -- It's got a $7.3 million balloon salary in 2011. I would say there is a 0 % chance of him ending up on New England. Not their style to take on a whiny biatch. Only team i could see would be Seattle out of that group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Willing to go out on a limb and say that he doesn't own Hall on any. Skelton is having a hard time beating out the unknown commodity for the #3 job. actually I own Hall in 2. I had to cut him in another yesterday due to roster size, but yes, both should be owned actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheikYerbuti Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 I would say there is a 0 % chance of him ending up on New England. Not their style to take on a whiny biatch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 I would say there is a 0 % chance of him ending up on New England. Not their style to take on a whiny biatch. I guess you must have missed that Randy Moss signing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Unless AZ agrees to pay a large portion of his salary, he is untradable. If you trade for him, you get that contract too. Lienart will end up being released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 (edited) Some oddities that just don't compute in this whole "Trade Leinart" situation: Didn't Leinart just go 9/10 with a TD in the last game that was supposed to be an open competition between he and Anderson? I'm not saying that this makes Leinart suddenly an uber-stud QB, but it seems like that's a pretty good game manager for a team that wants to be a smash-mouth running team per the HC. Is AZ really willing to start the season with only 2 rooks behind Anderson? Is AZ really willing to annoint Anderson as their starter? The same Anderson who couldn't hold off Brady Quinn half his time in CLE? The same Anderson that CLE jettisoned in favor of "I-never-met-an-INT-I-couldn't-throw" Delhomme, who CAR jettisoned in favor of Matt Moore? I guess I'm having some difficulty getting my head around this whole thing. AZ knows exactly what it will get from Anderson starting. They don't know what they'll get with Leinart starting for an appreciable time, since they've never given him a chance to be their premier guy in the regular season. He may suck, but I can't see where he'd be worse than Anderson, and Skelton isn't ready by a damned sight. Edited September 1, 2010 by Bronco Billy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackass Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 I guess you must have missed that Randy Moss signing... No, I didn't. I wouldn't describe Moss in those terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackass Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Schefter reporting Bills, Raiders and Giants have inquired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Unless AZ agrees to pay a large portion of his salary, he is untradable. If you trade for him, you get that contract too. Lienart will end up being released. I don't agree with that. Any team could sign him and give him a trial run for a year for $2.485M (not an huge amount under the current cap) and cut him if they don't like him before his 2011 $7.36M plus $5.5M roster bouns would kick in. Trading him or cutting him would also accelerate his signing bonus so that it would be a wash in this year's salary for the Cards, so that's another knock against AZ just cutting him loose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 No, I didn't. I wouldn't describe Moss in those terms. You did see how Moss behaved in OAK after forcing his way out of MIN, didn't you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 I don't agree with that. Any team could sign him and give him a trial run for a year for $2.485M (not an huge amount under the current cap) and cut him if they don't like him before his 2011 $7.36M plus $5.5M roster bouns would kick in. Trading him or cutting him would also accelerate his signing bonus so that it would be a wash in this year's salary for the Cards, so that's another knock against AZ just cutting him loose. I think 2.5 mil is a boatload for a backup QB. Then he has that boat anchor contract next year. How many teams would take a QB who was jetisoned by the team that drafted him to be a backup, knowing that even if he works out, they would have to renegotiate his contract? Leinart cut his own throat with his comments about it being a personal problem. I think a new contract would have to be in place before any trade could be consumated. Teams DO trade players who had big contracts and remain on the hook for part of his salary, for instance, Faneca. The Jets have to pay 5 mil of his compensation this year, while he plays for AZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackass Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 I think 2.5 mil is a boatload for a backup QB. Then he has that boat anchor contract next year. How many teams would take a QB who was jetisoned by the team that drafted him to be a backup, knowing that even if he works out, they would have to renegotiate his contract? Leinart cut his own throat with his comments about it being a personal problem. I think a new contract would have to be in place before any trade could be consumated. Teams DO trade players who had big contracts and remain on the hook for part of his salary, for instance, Faneca. The Jets have to pay 5 mil of his compensation this year, while he plays for AZ. prob with az paying anything is if they cut him they pay nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 (edited) I think 2.5 mil is a boatload for a backup QB. K Collins 2010: $5.5M M Bulger 2010: $3.8M D Orlovsky 2010: $3.05M S Rosenfels 2010: $3.0M D Carr 2010: $2.88M B Volek 2010: $2.75M C Redman 2010: $2.55M L McCown 2010: $2.5M C Pennington 2010: $2.5M R Fitzpatrick 2010: $2.3M J Kitna 2010: $2.0M B Leftwich 2010: $1.8M ETA a few more backup QBs Edited September 1, 2010 by Bronco Billy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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