JUMbotron Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 "One regime change and a devastating knee injury later, the Detroit Free Press writes that Smith may not even make the Lions roster this year." http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...ep-kevin-smith/ I thought Smith actually looked serviceable -- though a little rickety -- in the Cleveland exhibition. If Smith is cut you would think they'd be in the market for someone to spell Best, handle some short-yardage and help at goal-line. Maybe they have plans for talented FB/RB Jerome Felton? JUM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 "One regime change and a devastating knee injury later, the Detroit Free Press writes that Smith may not even make the Lions roster this year." http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...ep-kevin-smith/ I thought Smith actually looked serviceable -- though a little rickety -- in the Cleveland exhibition. If Smith is cut you would think they'd be in the market for someone to spell Best, handle some short-yardage and help at goal-line. Maybe they have plans for talented FB/RB Jerome Felton? JUM [/quote I'm guessing Brown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furd Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Well, Brown is a speed guy. I;m not sure what Maurice Morris really brings to the table. Is Justin Fargas done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Didn't Mo Morris look good when he got the nod towards the end of last year? I didn't get to see a lot of games but I thought the highlights and stats were pretty good. Maybe he has outplayed Ksmith for the #2 job? I thought everyone was pretty much on the same page that a rookie (especially one with the size and injury history of Best) shouldn't be given 20+ carries per game and be expected to last too long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furd Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Didn't Mo Morris look good when he got the nod towards the end of last year? I didn't get to see a lot of games but I thought the highlights and stats were pretty good. Maybe he has outplayed Ksmith for the #2 job? I thought everyone was pretty much on the same page that a rookie (especially one with the size and injury history of Best) shouldn't be given 20+ carries per game and be expected to last too long. Outside of one good game, no: 1 @NO L 45-27 Did Not Play or did not accumulate any stats. 2 MIN L 27-13 2 15 7.5 8 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0 3 WSH W 19-14 8 10 1.3 5 1 1 12 12.0 12 0 1 0 4 @CHI L 48-24 1 13 13.0 13 0 1 1 1.0 1 0 0 0 5 PIT L 28-20 1 5 5.0 5 0 1 16 16.0 16 0 0 0 6 @GB L 26-0 Did Not Play or did not accumulate any stats. 7 Bye Week 8 STL L 17-10 14 63 4.5 15 0 1 19 19.0 19 0 0 0 9 @SEA L 32-20 4 20 5.0 7 0 2 17 8.5 11 0 0 0 10 @MIN L 27-10 6 10 1.7 5 0 1 4 4.0 4 0 0 0 11 CLE W 38-37 2 5 2.5 4 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0 12 GB L 34-12 1 4 4.0 4 0 2 16 8.0 11 0 0 0 13 @CIN L 23-13 0 0 0.0 0 0 1 11 11.0 11 0 0 0 14 @BAL L 48-3 3 11 3.7 6 0 2 9 4.5 6 0 0 0 15 ARI L 31-24 17 126 7.4 64 1 5 35 7.0 12 0 0 0 16 @SF L 20-6 18 37 2.1 9 0 4 29 7.3 14 0 0 0 17 CHI L 37-23 16 65 4.1 16 0 5 41 8.2 11 0 0 0 Complete Game Log I think the Lions need somewhat of a power runner to compliment Best. Willis McGahee would be the guy, methinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Smith looked pretty solid to me in the couple of PS games I've seen him in. Hell, ship him over to DEN. We can send you Brady Quinn to back up Stafford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egret Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 The Lions would need someone to step up in short yardage situations if Smith gets cut. He's a serviceable back who can get you a dependable couple of yards. I do know that the staff loves Best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUMbotron Posted September 1, 2010 Author Share Posted September 1, 2010 I think 20 touches is the plan. 15-17 carries, a few catches, maybe a direct snap wildcat occasionally. A kick or punt return here and there. You don't take a RB in the first round, one with that kind of ability, and just give him 12-15 touches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 I think 20 touches is the plan. 15-17 carries, a few catches, maybe a direct snap wildcat occasionally. A kick or punt return here and there. You don't take a RB in the first round, one with that kind of ability, and just give him 12-15 touches. Okay, now I'm confused. We're going to give a RB like Forte, who has prototypical NFL RB size, a maximum of 300 touches to protect him, but we're going to give a smurf like Best at least 320 touches (which would have been 7th most in the NFL last year, BTW)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Okay, now I'm confused. We're going to give a RB like Forte, who has prototypical NFL RB size, a maximum of 300 touches to protect him, but we're going to give a smurf like Best at least 320 touches (which would have been 7th most in the NFL last year, BTW)? I really don't think Best could handle the load.....as a potential Best owner, I hope he's in a RBBC so he can stay fresh and keep the hope alive of him breaking a big play... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 I'll say Best gets about 15 attempts per game with about 3-5 receptions....this alone would be worth taking, but I'd rather him get closer to 12 attempts a game.... there's no way I can see Best handling more than 220 handoffs per game and he could average 15-17 attempts per game if he misses like 5 of them which would be the likely scenario... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 there's no way I can see Best handling more than 220 handoffs per game I don't think Jack Bauer could handle 220 handoffs per game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever in debt to mo lewis Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 I think 20 touches is the plan. 15-17 carries, a few catches, maybe a direct snap wildcat occasionally. A kick or punt return here and there. You don't take a RB in the first round, one with that kind of ability, and just give him 12-15 touches. not to beat a deadhorse or change the subject......but i agree...and this is why i feel some are too down on mccluster or at least mistaken by saying he isnt worthy of drafting....he was taken 6 spots behind best.....i know dexter is smaller...but i also expect less touches for mccluster than i do for best....i think yer in the right ballpark on guessing bests touches(and i like his situation overall).....id put mccluster down at 10-12(could be more or less depending how much they plan on using him in the return game).... you want to keep these guys fresh....but you dont take guys like spilller, best, and mccluster to be bit players when you have needs across the board Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd Dobler Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 I don't think Jack Bauer could handle 220 handoffs per game. Chuck Norris could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Chuck Norris could.\ Chuck Norris can't carry Jack Bauer's jock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpholmes Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 I really don't think Best could handle the load.....as a potential Best owner, I hope he's in a RBBC so he can stay fresh and keep the hope alive of him breaking a big play... \ Chuck Norris can't carry Jack Bauer's jock. +1 to both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Irish Doggy Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Smith looked pretty solid to me in the couple of PS games I've seen him in. +1. Yeah, he's had some good press this PS. Just doesn't make sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junta Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 I'll say Best gets about 15 attempts per game with about 3-5 receptions....this alone would be worth taking, but I'd rather him get closer to 12 attempts a game.... there's no way I can see Best handling more than 220 handoffs per game and he could average 15-17 attempts per game if he misses like 5 of them which would be the likely scenario... same thing was said of brian westbrook for years and years.... too small... played at villanova.... will never be able to handle the size and speed of nfl... could never handle a full rushing load... too injury prone.... blah blah blah.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 same thing was said of brian westbrook for years and years.... too small... played at villanova.... will never be able to handle the size and speed of nfl... could never handle a full rushing load... too injury prone.... blah blah blah.... If I'm not mistaken, people were similarly very upbeat on fellow Cal alum JJ Arrington when he was drafted by AZ also... You want to find one super-successful mighty mite like Westbrook and I'll find five who failed miserably. That's a poor argument either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearBroncos Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 That would be moronic for Detroit to do considering Smith ran very good at 4.1 avg per carry with a wickedly retched O-line in 08 and he was injured a large junk of the 09 season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd Dobler Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 \ Chuck Norris can't carry Jack Bauer's jock. There would be no need. At the very mention of Chuck Norris' name, Jack Bauers' berries would immediately ascend, never to drop again. *On a side note, this phenomenon and early patenting of the aforementioned procedure by Chuck Norris International Inc. was the genesis of the now hyper-successfull and multi-million dollar franchising enterprise known as "Vasectomies In Seconds", wherin customers can be sterilized and have the "fear of Chuck" put into them all in the time it takes to sweeten one's coffee. Also, for a slight extra charge, one can have their pants pressed and shoes shined while they wait. -ld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 I don't think Jack Bauer could handle 220 handoffs per game. I meant.....YOU KNOW WHAT I MEANT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 (edited) same thing was said of brian westbrook for years and years.... too small... played at villanova.... will never be able to handle the size and speed of nfl... could never handle a full rushing load... too injury prone.... blah blah blah.... and they'd be absolutely correct. Westbrooks touches per year as a starter: 2003: 154 (15 games played) 2004: 250 (13 games played) 2005: 217 (12 games played) 2006: 317 (15 games played) 2007: 368 (15 games played) 2008: 287 (14 games played) 2009: 86 (8 games played) So, lets see...he had two season's in his entire career where he had over 300 touches....neither year was he able to play all 16 games. For as wonderful as he as those two years, the prime of his career was cut short significantly by the abuse he took as a smaller player carrying the entire RB load for the team. is this really what you think detroit has in mind for its 1st round pick? In his very first year playing in the NFL? I highly, highly doubt it. Edited September 1, 2010 by i_am_the_swammi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 and they'd be absolutely correct. Westbrooks touches per year as a starter: 2004: 250 (13 games played) 2005: 217 (12 games played) 2006: 317 (15 games played) 2007: 368 (15 games played) 2008: 287 (14 games played) 2009: 86 (8 games played) So, lets see...he had two season's in his entire career where he had over 300 touches....neither year was he able to play all 16 games. For as wonderful as he as those two years, the prime of his career was cut short significantly by the abuse he took as a smaller player carrying the entire RB load for the team. is this really what you think detroit has in mind for its 1st round pick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearBroncos Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 and they'd be absolutely correct. Westbrooks touches per year as a starter: 2003: 154 (15 games played) 2004: 250 (13 games played) 2005: 217 (12 games played) 2006: 317 (15 games played) 2007: 368 (15 games played) 2008: 287 (14 games played) 2009: 86 (8 games played) So, lets see...he had two season's in his entire career where he had over 300 touches....neither year was he able to play all 16 games. For as wonderful as he as those two years, the prime of his career was cut short significantly by the abuse he took as a smaller player carrying the entire RB load for the team. is this really what you think detroit has in mind for its 1st round pick? I think many teams are going to migrate away from this mentality. To costly to their cash cows. Granted, since I have Best and Smith (as the handcuff), I wouldn't mind seeing him go to another team like, oh, maybe a Oakland? I could use another starter on my roster! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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