burton Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 (edited) RotoWorld Ravens agreed to terms with WR T.J. Houshmandzadeh on a one-year, $855,000 contract.This one comes out of left field. The Ravens already have two aging possession-type receivers in Anquan Boldin and Derrick Mason, so it's hard to see where Housh fits. Regardless, the egotistical former Seahawk is an extremely inexpensive upgrade over Mark Clayton at the No. 3 wide receiver spot. He held in all fantasy formats while he learns the Ravens' playbook and finds his niche. Clayton now on the trading block, most likely released if not traded: Ravens Insider I'm told that Ravens WR Mark Clayton is on the trading block now. If they can't trade him, the current plan is to release him. Edited September 6, 2010 by burton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 Nice bump for Flacco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 Nice bump for Flacco. and Clayton becomes more of an afterthought than he already was while Mason's value takes a bit of a hit as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RylenolFlu Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 Interesting. How do we think this will affect Housh's numbers? In a year where Flacco is projected to throw 25 + TDs and close to 4500 yards, Housh should see some of that production trickle down, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RylenolFlu Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 Not a lot of interest on this topic. It will be interesting to see how this affects Derrick Mason's value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS Miscreant Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 I, for one, am quite interested as I have both Housh and Flacco in both leagues for which I have already drafted. However, the operative word here is "interested" but not necessarily excited because like the analysis in the intial post I don't know how well he really fits there. Of course, I don't imagine they'd have signed him if they didn't see some potential for effectiveness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballjoe Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 Boldin, Mason and Housh and Ray Rice. Nice for Flacco. I don't see where Housh will do any better than if he was in Seattle as a #1 or #2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUMbotron Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 (edited) I don't think Housh is going to blow into town and cut into Derrick Mason's targets. Mason has a big, established key role in Cam Cameron's scheme. Housh is just a slight upgrade over Mark Clayton, who Cameron could never squeeze production out of. I'd go so far as to say that the erratic Clayton could still hold off Housh somewhat and hold the No. 3 spot, rendering Housh as sort of the 3-b receiver. All in all it's just a little boost to Joe Flacco's overall numbers in my opinion. JUM Edited September 6, 2010 by JUMbotron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jax20008kid Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 Good weaponsfor Flacco, but as I own Housh in a 16 tm league, I was hoping he would sign with the Redskins as they really lack a #2 to go along with Moss. It seems as if Balt already has a version of Housh with Mason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 I, for one, am quite interested as I have both Housh and Flacco in both leagues for which I have already drafted. However, the operative word here is "interested" but not necessarily excited because like the analysis in the intial post I don't know how well he really fits there. Of course, I don't imagine they'd have signed him if they didn't see some potential for effectiveness. I agree. He could be just a red zone target in which case he helps Flacco but no one else. Too early to know what will happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 I don't think Housh is going to blow into town and cut into Derrick Mason's targets. Mason has a big, established key role in Cam Cameron's scheme. Housh is just a slight upgrade over Mark Clayton, who Cameron could never squeeze production out of. I'd go so far as to say that the erratic Clayton could still hold off Housh somewhat and hold the No. 3 spot, rendering Housh as sort of the 3-b receiver. All in all it's just a little boost to Joe Flacco's overall numbers in my opinion. JUM Pretty much this...though its nice to see some of the general public feeling it downgrades Mason's value. He will be someone I target in leagues where an uneducated owner thinks Mason's value takes a hit here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 though its nice to see some of the general public feeling it downgrades Mason's value. I don't see how it can't at least a little bit. Unless Housh is completely washed up, which I have'nt seen anything to lead me to believe that he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RylenolFlu Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 Roto is suggesting that there might be some sort of deal where Housh was guaranteed some sort of role. Why else would an ego-maniac like Housh agree to play fourth fiddle when he could have had the 2nd WR spot with the Redskins? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 Helps Flacco some, hurts Mason some (but not extremely), maybe even Rice's receps a little, but TJ is officially of little value except as a stashed away hopeful in bigger leagues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 Roto is suggesting that there might be some sort of deal where Housh was guaranteed some sort of role. Why else would an ego-maniac like Housh agree to play fourth fiddle when he could have had the 2nd WR spot with the Redskins? Because the Ravens are a SB caliber team? Or because maybe the Redskins declined in the end? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUMbotron Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 Roto is suggesting that there might be some sort of deal where Housh was guaranteed some sort of role. Why else would an ego-maniac like Housh agree to play fourth fiddle when he could have had the 2nd WR spot with the Redskins? Roto is batty. He's barely making the vested veteran minimum salary. The Ravens have a great locker room and the last thing the coaches would do is guarantee an overrated Seahawks castoff anything. He'll have to earn his keep. He chose Baltimore because it's his last shot at getting the jewelry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Irish Doggy Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 Anyone expecting something other than a bye week filler (at best) out of TJ is dreaming. His skills are in decline and his best years came only with a truly dangerous player playing opposite him. This is his last stop before retirement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajh2 Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 My view is that it helps Mason. Housh and Boldoin outside with Mason in the slot. It also helps Heap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 Anyone expecting something other than a bye week filler (at best) out of TJ is dreaming. His skills are in decline and his best years came only with a truly dangerous player playing opposite him. This is his last stop before retirement. I don't have big expectations for Housh, but I think having Housh in the slot as a reliable checkdown in the middle of the field is a nice Boone for Flacco. I also think is will affect the way defenses play, and could open things up nicely for the flankers. Balt is deep at the offensive skill positions. I think this bumps them up as the favorite to win that division (previously Cincy IMO) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjpro11 Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 Roto is batty. He's barely making the vested veteran minimum salary. The Ravens have a great locker room and the last thing the coaches would do is guarantee an overrated Seahawks castoff anything. He'll have to earn his keep. He chose Baltimore because it's his last shot at getting the jewelry. he's only making veteran minimum because the Seahawks are responsible for the remaining $6+ mil on his salary. wherever he signed, the Seahawks were responsible for whatever the new team didn't pay on his $7 mil salary. naturally, the Ravens signed him for the vet minimum so that the Seahawks are left to pay him his entire remaining salary for the year. kind of a Penny Laneed up situation if you ask me. i don't understand how more teams weren't interested. surely he is better than other teams' receivers who are making the veteran minimum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 From Twitter @RavensInsider: I'm told that Ravens WR Mark Clayton is on the trading block now. If they can't trade him, the current plan is to release him. Name Aaron Wilson Bio I cover the Ravens for the Carroll County Times, Annapolis Capital, Ravens Insider and National Football Post after previous stint at Pro Football Talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUMbotron Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 he's only making veteran minimum because the Seahawks are responsible for the remaining $6+ mil on his salary. wherever he signed, the Seahawks were responsible for whatever the new team didn't pay on his $7 mil salary. naturally, the Ravens signed him for the vet minimum so that the Seahawks are left to pay him his entire remaining salary for the year. kind of a Penny Laneed up situation if you ask me. i don't understand how more teams weren't interested. surely he is better than other teams' receivers who are making the veteran minimum. Exactly. The Ravens have no real investment here, plus why would they offer some kind of guarantee that T.J. will get some certain amount of snaps - knowing he's a fat cat who's already got $6 million worth of game checks coming from Seattle.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwallace49 Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 I don't think Housh is going to blow into town and cut into Derrick Mason's targets. Mason has a big, established key role in Cam Cameron's scheme. Housh is just a slight upgrade over Mark Clayton, who Cameron could never squeeze production out of. I'd go so far as to say that the erratic Clayton could still hold off Housh somewhat and hold the No. 3 spot, rendering Housh as sort of the 3-b receiver. All in all it's just a little boost to Joe Flacco's overall numbers in my opinion. JUM I gota disagree with you here. Housh is a big upgrade over Clayton, who was barely servicable as a deep threat for the Ravens. Housh is a very solid possession receiver, and can work as the #2 or out of slot. IMO this will move Mason to the slot when they go 3 wide where he wil do VERY well against nickel coverage . Boldin is still the #1, and Housh becomes an outside reciver when they go 3 wide . . with Mason still getting the starting role with Boldin. If anything I think this hurts Heap's stats, as you now have 3 very capable Wrs that will create matchup problems for defenses, and a guy in Housh who is 3 big macs away from playing TE himself. I think Housh's stats come at the expense of the TE position . . and to a lesser extend, Ray Rice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burton Posted September 6, 2010 Author Share Posted September 6, 2010 From Twitter @RavensInsider: I'm told that Ravens WR Mark Clayton is on the trading block now. If they can't trade him, the current plan is to release him. Name Aaron Wilson Bio I cover the Ravens for the Carroll County Times, Annapolis Capital, Ravens Insider and National Football Post after previous stint at Pro Football Talk. Rams acquired WR Mark Clayton from the Ravens in exchange for future late-round "considerations." RotoWorld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoOnshine22 Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 Interesting. How do we think this will affect Housh's numbers? In a year where Flacco is projected to throw 25 + TDs and close to 4500 yards, Housh should see some of that production trickle down, no? Whoa, whoa, 4500 yards? Ok maybe 4,000, realistically. But for Housh, it kills him compared to in Seattle. There's no way he scored more than 4 times this year and he thrived on short passes and a lot of receptions. With two other possession receivers, Housh shouldn't get more than 60 catches, 700 yards, and 4 TDs, which are WR3 tops numbers. Stay away, people might think this is good for Teje but not at all I'm contemplating dropping him, before he was top30 on my WR list, thought he would break out, but IMO Pete Carroll is an idiot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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