MJD

[Capt. Stanky]

Some of you might recall my posts at the end of the 2008 season toughting my boy MJD to be the next big time RB. My thinking was that Freddy T's days as a Jag were coming to an end and that Jax would lean on Mighty Mouse more than they ever have in 2009. Some cited Del Rio's pen gent for a committee backfield since he was hired on as the Jag's head coach. Keggerz specifically added great detail and numbers to back his argument. By the end of the 2009 season MJD was standing as the #2 RB overall in standard PPR leagues. I was very pleased that the RB I boasted, much like Taz boasts J-Stew, had even exceeded my expectations. End of the year totals are great, but usually don't tell the entire story. In my preparation for this year I looked a bit deeper into MJD's numbers. In week 6 MJD really started to turn it on. From weeks 6-10 (4 games; Bye week 7) MJD collected 94 carries for 530 yards (5.6 YPC) and 7 TD's. Those are numbers even Chris Johnson would be jealous of. His totals for the other 12 weeks of the season are really what opened my eyes to concerns for MJD going into 2010. For the other 12 games of the year he had 265 carries for 861 yards (3.2 YPC) and 8 TD's. I just think his value is inflated a bit if you just looked at his end of the year stats. His dip in production coincided with the Jag's collapse as a team. Personally, I don't see the Jags doing any better than their 7-9 record from a year ago. While I think MJD is an elite talent, I don't think he's going to be as consistent as AP, Rice, Gore or even Turner due to the team he is on.

 

What do you think about MJD, Huddlers?

[Delicious_bass]

Some of you might recall my posts at the end of the 2008 season toughting my boy MJD to be the next big time RB. My thinking was that Freddy T's days as a Jag were coming to an end and that Jax would lean on Mighty Mouse more than they ever have in 2009. Some cited Del Rio's pen gent for a committee backfield since he was hired on as the Jag's head coach. Keggerz specifically added great detail and numbers to back his argument. By the end of the 2009 season MJD was standing as the #2 RB overall in standard PPR leagues. I was very pleased that the RB I boasted, much like Taz boasts J-Stew, had even exceeded my expectations. End of the year totals are great, but usually don't tell the entire story. In my preparation for this year I looked a bit deeper into MJD's numbers. In week 6 MJD really started to turn it on. From weeks 6-10 (4 games; Bye week 7) MJD collected 94 carries for 530 yards (5.6 YPC) and 7 TD's. Those are numbers even Chris Johnson would be jealous of. His totals for the other 12 weeks of the season are really what opened my eyes to concerns for MJD going into 2010. For the other 12 games of the year he had 265 carries for 861 yards (3.2 YPC) and 8 TD's. I just think his value is inflated a bit if you just looked at his end of the year stats. His dip in production coincided with the Jag's collapse as a team. Personally, I don't see the Jags doing any better than their 7-9 record from a year ago. While I think MJD is an elite talent, I don't think he's going to be as consistent as AP, Rice, Gore or even Turner due to the team he is on.

 

What do you think about MJD, Huddlers?

I think there is already a thread about MJD

[Capt. Stanky]

I think there is already a thread about MJD

 

I realize that, but this post has nothing to do with his knee injury. I didn't want to waste my time adding something like this to that thread just to have it overlooked by the majority posting in that thread. I'm trying to gage other peoples thinking on MJD's prospects this year, knee injury aside.

[Delicious_bass]

I realize that, but this post has nothing to do with his knee injury. I didn't want to waste my time adding something like this to that thread just to have it overlooked by the majority posting in that thread. I'm trying to gage other peoples thinking on MJD's prospects this year, knee injury aside.

In other words, you just wanted to start a new thread.

 

Look, I am not trying to be a Richard here, but this is the type of thing I was just ranting about in the "What happened to this place?" thread. Already one thread about MJD. Now you've created one "trying to gage other peoples thinking on MJD's prospects this year, knee injury aside". Later this week, someone else will create another one about how MJD will do this weekend. Then there will be another one either celebrating that he blew up or lamenting that he sucked. We'll soon end up with 5-6 friggin threads about MJD when one is plenty to discuss any thoughts/fears/concerns/etc about him...

Edited September 7, 2010 by Delicious_bass

[Big John]

I think there is already a thread about MJD

Disagreeing with keg on him wearing down

 

and Keg on him this year

Edited September 7, 2010 by Big John

[Bronco Billy]

I think DEN is starting Jason Hunter - a DET catsoff who in 4 years in the league has amassed 48 solos and 18 assists - at OLB and just cut another NE castoff (leKevin Smith) that they added and had as their #3 DE on their depth chart. If MJD doesn't scorch this team on Sunday for a hugh game, I'd say your concerns are very valid.

[Rovers]

In other words, you just wanted to start a new thread.

 

Look, I am not trying to be a Richard here, but this is the type of thing I was just ranting about in the "What happened to this place?" thread. Already one thread about MJD. Now you've created one "trying to gage other peoples thinking on MJD's prospects this year, knee injury aside". Later this week, someone else will create another one about how MJD will do this weekend. Then there will be another one either celebrating that he blew up or lamenting that he sucked. We'll soon end up with 5-6 friggin threads about MJD when one is plenty to discuss any thoughts/fears/concerns/etc about him...

 

 

Good point, we should make sure there aren't too many threads in this forum. I mean, it's impossible to keep up with them already.

[georgedp]

I'm relatively new here, so I'm not sure what this forum was like before (i.e., before whatever happened to this place happened). But aren't you being a little harsh? I'd rather sift through a few extra MJD threads than have to worry about whether I'm starting a new thread when I shouldn't if I want to contribute something. Just my two cents.

 

As far as MJD is concerned, those are some interesting stats to throw out. I haven't been avoiding him, but other people generally like him better than I do (and I do mostly auction leagues), so I've rarely gotten him. It's hard to say whether that is indicative of how he does this year or not, though. I remember in 2003, 15 of Peyton's 29 TDs came in three games. I was telling everyone who would listen to avoid him. "Iinconsistent!"

 

Of course, the very next year was his record-breaking 4557 yards-49 TDs-10 pick season. Go figure.

 

 

 

In other words, you just wanted to start a new thread.

 

Look, I am not trying to be a Richard here, but this is the type of thing I was just ranting about in the "What happened to this place?" thread. Already one thread about MJD. Now you've created one "trying to gage other peoples thinking on MJD's prospects this year, knee injury aside". Later this week, someone else will create another one about how MJD will do this weekend. Then there will be another one either celebrating that he blew up or lamenting that he sucked. We'll soon end up with 5-6 friggin threads about MJD when one is plenty to discuss any thoughts/fears/concerns/etc about him...

[gardenthug]

Seems like some of us are taking ourselves a little to seriously. After all, we're grown men on a chat board talking about an imaginary football game.

[Delicious_bass]

I'm relatively new here, so I'm not sure what this forum was like before (i.e., before whatever happened to this place happened). But aren't you being a little harsh? I'd rather sift through a few extra MJD threads than have to worry about whether I'm starting a new thread when I shouldn't if I want to contribute something. Just my two cents.

 

As far as MJD is concerned, those are some interesting stats to throw out. I haven't been avoiding him, but other people generally like him better than I do (and I do mostly auction leagues), so I've rarely gotten him. It's hard to say whether that is indicative of how he does this year or not, though. I remember in 2003, 15 of Peyton's 29 TDs came in three games. I was telling everyone who would listen to avoid him. "Iinconsistent!"

 

Of course, the very next year was his record-breaking 4557 yards-49 TDs-10 pick season. Go figure.

There is a search function that works well. It will tell you if there is already a thread going about pretty much whatever you want to discuss. And then there is the good ol fashion eye test. Basically, just scan the first page of a forum. If you see there are already two threads on a certain player, then I would say you should post in one of those (if you have something to say about that player) rather than start another new thread...

[Capt. Stanky]

I suppose I could have just added what I posted in this thread to the MJD thread concerning his knee injury, or any other MJD thread that I found using the search engine, but I really feel that my post would have gotten lost in the shuffle. This board is booming right now, and I truly feel that creating a new post better serves everyone on this board then trying to add to a thread that might be weeks old, so people aren't generally going to read through all the old posts just to get to new content.

 

Back to the point, what are peoples thoughts on MJD? Do you think his team is going to hold him back like I do?

[Delicious_bass]

I suppose I could have just added what I posted in this thread to the MJD thread concerning his knee injury, or any other MJD thread that I found using the search engine, but I really feel that my post would have gotten lost in the shuffle. This board is booming right now, and I truly feel that creating a new post better serves everyone on this board then trying to add to a thread that might be weeks old, so people aren't generally going to read through all the old posts just to get to new content.

 

Back to the point, what are peoples thoughts on MJD? Do you think his team is going to hold him back like I do?

See, that's exactly the attitude that leads to 100 threads about the same thing. You're afraid no one will read your post so you start a new thread on the same topic. Someone else does the same. Then another guy does, too. Pretty soon, the other post going about the same topic is pushed onto page 2 or 3. Instead of having one thread near the top of the first page(you realize that's where it goes when you add to a thread) where folks can read for all things MJD, there are several as people are in a battle to try to get their opinion heard.

 

And as far as "trying to add to a thread that might be weeks old", there was another thread dedicated to MJD right below yours when you created it which meant people were still reading/posting in it today. Its not as though you would have had to go resurrect a dead thread from way back...

 

ETA: apologies if it seems like I am picking on any one poster in particular. This just happened to be a prime example...

Edited September 7, 2010 by Delicious_bass

[Capt. Stanky]

I'm not going to keep arguing this point with you. We will have to agree to disagree. The post you are referring to was specifically about the knee injury. My post doesn't mention anything about the knee injury. I just wanted to voice my concerns about MJD even before their was word of an injury.

 

It doesn't matter now, since my new post has just turned into an arguement that really seems silly to me. The content that I posted is completely lost on everyone now.

[RokoMotion]

I used to be incredibly active on this forum a few years ago, and I've only been lurking and reading this summer. But this thread finally got me to come out and say something. I personally have noticed a lack of fresh ideas on the board, as a whole, compared to a few years ago. Many legitimate threads go unanswered, and some are killed before they begin because people pick a fight. The poster in this case didn't seem to ask a question that duplicated other threads. In fact, the poster seemed to have some rather original insight and indepth analysis from the beginning, and he tried to fashion the Topic in a way that would distinguish this thread from other "MJD injury" threads already pending. There is no need to ostracize him or criticize his post. I wish there were more posts like his going around - fresh, insightful, and supported. There is no need to disincentivize well-intentioned posters from adding their thoughts to the forum.

 

As far as MJD, I think any RB on a bad team carries a great deal of risk. Without a team that generates several goal-line attempts per game, the RB must fashion his own scoring from afar. If you WERE to pick a RB on a bad team, however, wouldn't MJD be the sort of back you'd want? A RB that can catch, run outside, run between the tackles, break long runs, AND move the pile in short-yardage situations? Because MJD is the real deal and has proven that he can shoulder the load for his entire team, I think he is as good of a bet as almost any other runner. Well worth the risk IMHO. Plus, he fell to my team in my local draft at 1.10!!

[pokerboss]

geez, if you dont like it, or think its a rerun of another post, then dont freaking read it.........

[Phantom Knight]

See, that's exactly the attitude that leads to 100 threads about the same thing. You're afraid no one will read your post so you start a new thread on the same topic.

I completely agree with your point.

 

However in this case, I thnk you have chosen a bad example to vent on. To me this is a different topic than MJD's knee. It is coincidental that MJD has a knee issue and so has multilple threads already. I think the original poster's concern is legitmate that THIS topic (whether or not the numbers MJD put up last year point towards an unreliable RB1 this year) would get lost in the dust of "the knee".

 

Disclamier to my comment: To be fair, I am so tired of hearing about "the knee", that I have not even looked at any of the other threads on MJD today. If it so happens that there is a recent thread on the same topic as this thread (sans knee), then I withdraw my comment here. And no! I am NOT going to read all those other threads to see if this topic is broached because doing so would leave me

[rhippens]

Well, the annoying thing now is not that there are multiple MJD threads, it's that at least one of them is nearly worthless.

 

I think MJD will be fine but I also am scared off for some reason. I picked #3 last night and couldn't make myself not take him because of the TD numbers, but I hope his line gels a bit more and that the knee isn't a problem all season.