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So after two weeks of mediocrity, is it time to admit defeat with him and try to deal him for whatever you can get, or would you stay the course and hope that he realizes preseason was over two weeks ago and it's time to try?

 

 

You're kidding. it's two games in. He rushed for like 98 last week which isn't bad and had one crappy week. Show.me a guy who never has a bad game. If you start giving up on guys that quickly you'll be in for a.miserable season

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Despite the fact that the game got out of hand and took him out of play, I have to say that MJD just doesn't look right to me. I wouldn't bother trying to move him right now, but if you aren't a bit concerned at this point you might be suffering from denial. He got outscored and outperformed by Jennings.

 

I drafted him 5th overall in a no-trade league and I am feeling pretty screwed right now.

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its definitely no RBBC.

but i agree that something's not right. i think he's a little dinged and Del Rio is being cautious with him on top of that.

he's not gonna get any easy scores in that offense either. owners may have to wait this one out and hope for the best with his health.

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I really had a feeling that MJD was being overvalued this year. If you looked deeper at the numbers last year he was a very average back besides a ridiculous stretch in the middle of the year last year. I wouldn't try and trade him now with his value low, but I don't see him being a top 5 back this year. Possibly not even top 10 since he will be insconsistent on that awful offense.

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I really had a feeling that MJD was being overvalued this year. If you looked deeper at the numbers last year he was a very average back besides a ridiculous stretch in the middle of the year last year. I wouldn't try and trade him now with his value low, but I don't see him being a top 5 back this year. Possibly not even top 10 since he will be insconsistent on that awful offense.

 

Spot on. Outside of a pretty solid game against Indy (who doesn't skewer them on the ground?) down the stretch, he was thoroughly mediocre for most of the second half of last season. While I didn't get a high enough draft slot in either of my leagues to get him this year, he was on my "stay away" list. He won't produce anywhere near a top 5 level.

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Guess not, because people were panicking on him after the first 2 weeks last year. Maybe he is banged up still, but it seems like an over-reaction to one game, especially the way it played out.

 

The writing was on the wall prior to the season. Although I love the guy as a player, he's not consistent enough to warrent where he was being drafted. Where you at, Keggerz? Back me up on this one.

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The writing was on the wall prior to the season. Although I love the guy as a player, he's not consistent enough to warrent where he was being drafted. Where you at, Keggerz? Back me up on this one.

 

 

In my PPR scoring format, MJD scored the following in weeks 10-17 last year:

 

10 - 22.50

11 - 18.40

12 - 16.00

13 - 9.20

14 - 16.30

15 - 31.00

16 - 12.80

17 - 9.80

 

He was the 6th highest scoring RB in that time behind ADP and Ray Rice, 4th and 5th respectively.

 

In these weeks Ray Rice had one game below 10 points, MJD had two (9.2 and 9.8 points).

In these weeks Ray Rice and MJD had 4 games between 10 and 20 points, while ADP had 5.

All remaining games were 20 and higher, with MJD the only one eclipsing 30 points in these weeks

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In my PPR scoring format, MJD scored the following in weeks 10-17 last year:

 

10 - 22.50

11 - 18.40

12 - 16.00

13 - 9.20

14 - 16.30

15 - 31.00

16 - 12.80

17 - 9.80

 

He was the 6th highest scoring RB in that time behind ADP and Ray Rice, 4th and 5th respectively.

 

In these weeks Ray Rice had one game below 10 points, MJD had two (9.2 and 9.8 points).

In these weeks Ray Rice and MJD had 4 games between 10 and 20 points, while ADP had 5.

All remaining games were 20 and higher, with MJD the only one eclipsing 30 points in these weeks

 

The point I was trying to make is that MJD's value was inflated if you just looked at the end of the year stats. The torrid mid-season stretch I'm talking about was from week 6-10 (4 games; bye week 7). MJD had 94 carries for 530 yards (5.6 YPC) and 7 TD's. For the other 12 games of the year he had 265 carries for 861 yards (3.2 YPC) and 8 TD's. This isn't looking at his receiving numbers, just his rushing. I just think he was being over valued this year prior to the draft. I didn't think he was top 5 going into the draft and I certainly don't think he is now.

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The point I was trying to make is that MJD's value was inflated if you just looked at the end of the year stats. The torrid mid-season stretch I'm talking about was from week 6-10 (4 games; bye week 7). MJD had 94 carries for 530 yards (5.6 YPC) and 7 TD's. For the other 12 games of the year he had 265 carries for 861 yards (3.2 YPC) and 8 TD's. This isn't looking at his receiving numbers, just his rushing. I just think he was being over valued this year prior to the draft. I didn't think he was top 5 going into the draft and I certainly don't think he is now.

 

I just pulled up weeks 1 through 5 in 2009 and he was the 3rd highest scoring RB in my PPR league. Not sure what you are getting at, as far as points go, he was no less consistent than anyone outside of maybe ADP and Chris Johnson. All top consensus picks tend to be over-valued every single year.

 

I'll admit that I passed on him at 1.4 this year, but solely because of the injury talk. Still, proclaiming MJD a 2010 bust or even significantly over-valued seems a bit premature.

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:wacko: been there done it no need to jump back in...ppl know my stance and if they don't they can search it :tup:

 

but I do find it funny how I got lambasted for saying that there was cause for concerns due to some of his metrics really falling off, consistently since entering the league...and now there are bunches of people jumping on that train after the fact (not singling you out Stanky) last year he may have handled the load (which I didn't think he could do) but I wonder at what cost.

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I'm not so much concerned about one bad game, but no scores and only 3 catches in 2 games by a guy who's value was tied so largely to PPR does worry me, even though it's only 2 games. And I vowed not to draft him too. :wacko: Really Garrard and weakness at the skill areas worries me as much as anything.

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some numbers to chew on and a look at what happens when you drill down some:

 

2009 season:

312carries 1,391yrds 4.5YPC 15TDs

 

2009 1st half carries (1st 8 games)

145 carries 737yds 5.08YPC 11TDs

 

2009 2nd half carries (last 8 games)

167 carries 654yds 3.92YPC 4TDs

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some numbers to chew on and a look at what happens when you drill down some:

 

2009 season:

312carries 1,391yrds 4.5YPC 15TDs

 

2009 1st half carries (1st 8 games)

145 carries 737yds 5.08YPC 11TDs

 

2009 2nd half carries (last 8 games)

167 carries 654yds 3.92YPC 2TDs

 

Those TDs aren't adding up to 15

 

Anyway, Adrian Peterson's YPC in the first 8 games last year was 4.81 and the dropped to 3.97 in the 2nd half. I guess he should have been avoided this year since the numbers show can't handle the load, similar to MJD?

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