MrTed46 Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 What do you guys think of MBIII as a buy low candidate? I think he is running pretty good given the circumstances and felix jones doesnt look to be good. They can't ignore their running game or they are in a real long season. I think he can end up being a low RB2 for those who need help at the RB position and can be had cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever in debt to mo lewis Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 (edited) im really hoping that the dallas run game will come together.....i have to start 3 rbs...i have mathews and foster...those guys are every week starters for me(when healthy)....i drafted barber to be my 3rd guy....but i havent started him yet....ive been using hightower who has done well....but his days as a reliable starter could be coming to an end if wells seizes the job....i also have donald brown stashed....in case of a serious addai injury or the colts deciding to start using him alot more... i really considered dropping barber for m lynch this week....but ive decided to wait it out a little longer and see if barber and dallas can pull it together....im pretty screwed this week with mathews situation.....so i might throw barber in the lineup and hope for the best this week anyways...i hope yer right....ill take low end 2 production from him from here on out Edited September 24, 2010 by forever in debt to mo lewis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTed46 Posted September 24, 2010 Author Share Posted September 24, 2010 im really hoping that the dallas run game will come together.....i have to start 3 rbs...i have mathews and foster...those guys are every week starters for me(when healthy)....i drafted barber to be my 3rd guy....but i havent started him yet....ive been using hightower who has done well....but his days as a reliable starter could be coming to an end if wells seizes the job....i also have donald brown stashed....in case of a serious addai injury or the colts deciding to start using him alot more... i really considered dropping barber for m lynch this week....but ive decided to wait it out a little longer and see if barber and dallas can pull it together....im pretty screwed this week with mathews situation.....so i might throw barber in the lineup and hope for the best this week Speaking of M Lynch, I am grabbing him in every league I can. He HAS to be traded it wouldn't make sense not to and if he goes to a decent team, he will be starter material. He is another one of my buy low candidates but with much associated risk attached to him. Feast or famine. He may be a good play this week as they are show casing him. They will run him to the ground in order to squeeze value out of him. Out of the two though, I would rather have MBIII. In his limited carries, he seems to run like the MBIII we all remember. The Coybows can't rely strictly on Romo to throw and I am not sold on Felix Jones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever in debt to mo lewis Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 Speaking of M Lynch, I am grabbing him in every league I can. He HAS to be traded it wouldn't make sense not to and if he goes to a decent team, he will be starter material. He is another one of my buy low candidates but with much associated risk attached to him. Feast or famine. He may be a good play this week as they are show casing him. They will run him to the ground in order to squeeze value out of him. Out of the two though, I would rather have MBIII. In his limited carries, he seems to run like the MBIII we all remember. The Coybows can't rely strictly on Romo to throw and I am not sold on Felix Jones. id love to add lynch....but i cant hold more than 5 rbs on my roster and have to start 3.....i have mathews,foster,barber, hightower, and donald brown.....the only two guys id consider dropping for lynch are barber and hightower.....its a really tough call there.....not sure wells is going to hold his job....and barber...im kinda waiting it out a little longer....so its risky...if barber doesnt get it together and lynch gets dealt im going to miss out.....even though i have rodgers, if lynch got dealt to gb for hawk, id love it....id have no problem starting rodgers and lynch......even right now...if lynch is getting 17 touches, even in buffalo, hes worth it....and i think he may be a decent play this week too....perhaps a little garbage time production too..... but i agree...i think dallas has to make a point to get the running game worked out if they want a chance at breaking out of this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTed46 Posted September 24, 2010 Author Share Posted September 24, 2010 id love to add lynch....but i cant hold more than 5 rbs on my roster and have to start 3.....i have mathews,foster,barber, hightower, and donald brown.....the only two guys id consider dropping for lynch are barber and hightower.....its a really tough call there.....not sure wells is going to hold his job....and barber...im kinda waiting it out a little longer....so its risky...if barber doesnt get it together and lynch gets dealt im going to miss out.....even though i have rodgers, if lynch got dealt to gb for hawk, id love it....id have no problem starting rodgers and lynch......even right now...if lynch is getting 17 touches, even in buffalo, hes worth it....and i think he may be a decent play this week too....perhaps a little garbage time production too..... but i agree...i think dallas has to make a point to get the running game worked out if they want a chance at breaking out of this I wouldn't drop Hightower for Lynch given your RB situation w Mathews hurt. If I was to take a gamble I would try to move Brown to Addai owner for a slight upgrade and then pickup Lynch. I don't know why, but I am low on Brown this year. I never take a RB who can't block, that is worst than fumbling the ball btw. You let Manning get popped once, guess what? Meet bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lkirc Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 I drafted Barber as my 4th RB to back up Gore, Forte and Moreno. I have since traded Moreno, so I am really just counting on Barber to produce enough to be a bye-week fill in guy. Right now, I don't know if he is even capable of that. How does Wade Phillips keep his job? Is it because he is willing to let Jerry "Plastic Face" Jones pull him around like a puppet on a string? In the NFL, if you don't get some production out of your running game, you will lose. Even the Colts and Patriots get some production out of their running game. I am afraid to say it, but I think the Cowboys are being run like Al Davis runs the Raiders..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever in debt to mo lewis Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 I wouldn't drop Hightower for Lynch given your RB situation w Mathews hurt. If I was to take a gamble I would try to move Brown to Addai owner for a slight upgrade and then pickup Lynch. I don't know why, but I am low on Brown this year. I never take a RB who can't block, that is worst than fumbling the ball btw. You let Manning get popped once, guess what? Meet bench. we dont allow trades.....there is quite a bit of money at stake in this league and pretty competitive.....so it just avoids alot of possible messy situations and collusion....so i cant move brown....and i dunno if i would at this point either...i definitley hear you about browns blocking concerns though...but if addai goes down they are going to have much choice...and brown could be productive there in the feature role...its a stash and hope type deal dont think i would drop hightower for lynch either....when i was considering it ...it was going to be barber.....i llike to gamble....and that would be a little gamble....but im going to bet on barber snapping out of it and being a decent 3rd rb.... i think i upgraded by rather weak wr corps this week though...picked up demaryius for devin a......and i even grabbed santonio holmes this week before anyone else decided to jump on it....pretty sure next week somebody was gonna jump on him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTSuper7 Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 At best, Barber will be the 1a and get goalline carries, but I think more realistically we're looking at a rotation or maybe even an unpredictable time share with Felix Jones based on the hot hand. What I don't like is that I feel like, even though Felix Jones hasn't done much, the Cowboys are going to be looking for reasons to get Jones more involved (i.e Jones controls his own destiny - if he plays well, he'll be on the field more). I can't say that about Barber per se. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboysDiehard Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 More like 'glue factory' candidate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearBroncos Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 Jerry Jones wants to have a super bowl caliber team once again. He wanted Jones to be his stud runner. Barber just never was able to get the job done but Phillips continues to make is one of the worse RBBC's in the NFL. I think Jerry made his statement that they need to run the ball if they are going to win and he's right. I think they are running 39% of the time and then giving each back their chance so none really get a good chance to get into a groove. In short, Barber is not their guy. If Phillips decides he is going to listen to his boss, it will be Jones that gets the nod. The problem with Jones is that he has bulk up a bit. 220lbs I think I heard so some think that's where some of his speed went, but I think if given the opportunity to run the team, Jones could be a 25+ carry back and run for 1200+ yards.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lkirc Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 Jerry Jones wants to have a super bowl caliber team once again. He wanted Jones to be his stud runner. Barber just never was able to get the job done but Phillips continues to make is one of the worse RBBC's in the NFL. I think Jerry made his statement that they need to run the ball if they are going to win and he's right. I think they are running 39% of the time and then giving each back their chance so none really get a good chance to get into a groove. In short, Barber is not their guy. If Phillips decides he is going to listen to his boss, it will be Jones that gets the nod. The problem with Jones is that he has bulk up a bit. 220lbs I think I heard so some think that's where some of his speed went, but I think if given the opportunity to run the team, Jones could be a 25+ carry back and run for 1200+ yards.. What do you base this on? He couldn't stay healthy running the ball 8 times a game. I think Felix has the talent to be a great RB, but he has shown in college and in the NFL that he is fragile. 25 carries a game = 400 carries in a season. He carried the ball 116 times last year and was constantly banged up. I'm not trying to be a jerk, but just don't understand the "Felix can carry the load" logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearBroncos Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 What do you base this on? He couldn't stay healthy running the ball 8 times a game. I think Felix has the talent to be a great RB, but he has shown in college and in the NFL that he is fragile. 25 carries a game = 400 carries in a season. He carried the ball 116 times last year and was constantly banged up. I'm not trying to be a jerk, but just don't understand the "Felix can carry the load" logic. This was Jerry's wish last year. Felix is from Jerry's alma mater so there was a love affair from the very start. Jerry Jones favors more touches for Felix Jones Jerry stepped back and you know he's chomping at the bit to be more active in the team dcisions, especially with such a huge season on the line. This is the biggest season since Jimmy Johnsons big gamble! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lkirc Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 It is his team. I guess he can do what he wants with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WashingtonD Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 I have Barber in more than a few leagues and was high on him coming into this year, mostly because I was convinced that Felix would get injured early. What I didn't expect was the incredible incompetence of the Dallas line and the offensive play calling in general. I'll be shocked if he is even valuable as a bye week filler for the next 6 weeks or so...maybe after that they get their acts together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 Jerry Jones wants to have a super bowl caliber team once again. He wanted Jones to be his stud runner. Barber just never was able to get the job done but Phillips continues to make is one of the worse RBBC's in the NFL. I think Jerry made his statement that they need to run the ball if they are going to win and he's right. I think they are running 39% of the time and then giving each back their chance so none really get a good chance to get into a groove. In short, Barber is not their guy. If Phillips decides he is going to listen to his boss, it will be Jones that gets the nod. The problem with Jones is that he has bulk up a bit. 220lbs I think I heard so some think that's where some of his speed went, but I think if given the opportunity to run the team, Jones could be a 25+ carry back and run for 1200+ yards.. Thinking Wade Phillips actually has any control of the Cowboys running game is a mistake. Wade Phillips is the head coach in name only. He runs the defense, and I think he does a hell of a job most of the time. Jones dysfuntcional setup already had Jason Garrett on hand to run all things offense and be the heir apparant to Wade Phillips. I think the decisions that you're talking about will be made by Jason, Jerry, and Stephen Jones. Not Wade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asskickas Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 Thinking Wade Phillips actually has any control of the Cowboys running game is a mistake. Wade Phillips is the head coach in name only. He runs the defense, and I think he does a hell of a job most of the time. Jones dysfuntcional setup already had Jason Garrett on hand to run all things offense and be the heir apparant to Wade Phillips. I think the decisions that you're talking about will be made by Jason, Jerry, and Stephen Jones. Not Wade. Well Barber won't do much in a game where the Cowboys will need to throw since they can't keep up a good pass rush for more than 1 quarter. (Last week they were getting to Cutler and then nothing.) If they do that this week then the only back worth a damn in that game will be Foster managing the clock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboysDiehard Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 Well Barber won't do much in a game where the Cowboys will need to throw since they can't keep up a good pass rush for more than 1 quarter. (Last week they were getting to Cutler and then nothing.) If they do that this week then the only back worth a damn in that game will be Foster managing the clock. Interesting point. Indicates a need for depth on the d-line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flemingd Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 I think Tashard Choice is the Cowboy RB to have. I have him in both of my 12 man's and he's on my watch list in 8 man keeper. The real problem is that O-line - they are getting blown out. If they don't fix that it's going to be irrelevant. They could trade for Peterson and he wouldn't get more than 2 yards a carry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Cheezhead Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 (edited) FWIW, I agree with MrTed. Barber looks markedly better this year. He seems hungry to get the ball, and it definitely seems that he'll make it count if/when that happens. Edited September 26, 2010 by Swiss Cheezhead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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