Cowboyz1 Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 (edited) First of all he has put up all these numbers against Det and Jax. I mean come on now, those two teams aren't exactly defensive juggernauts. I promise you this, if he throws those 40 yard punts up against Dallas they will be going the other way and he will have to use his legs to chase down a Jenkins or Newman. I do believe he is playing well but don't get carried away now. You couldn't ask for two better teams to get back into the swing of things against as he has had zero pressure. I don't beleive he has even been hit yet. I have always been impressed with the way he can flick the ball 50 yards but that is with time. Let's see him do it with pressure in his face or on the run. Let's see what he does when the running game isn't working and he has to make plays with quality CB covering. Remember Vick made great plays when he was with Atlanta yet he still had stuggles with good teams pressuring him. I look at the years he played prior to this two game stint and I don't find the second coming of Joe Montania. We'll see but two games against the bottom teams in the NFL does not an MVP make. Yeah he made one play against Dallas last year. I do remember! Now Romo on the other hand is playing some great football. I am so glad Philly has a QB that can play. I don't want any excuses when they come to Cowboys stadium. Edited September 27, 2010 by Cowboyz1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 He tore up GB pretty well too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLAYER Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 First of all he has put up all these numbers against Det and Jax. I mean come on now, those two teams aren't exactly defensive juggernauts. I promise you this, if he throws those 40 yard punts up against Dallas they will be going the other way and he will have to use his legs to chase down a Jenkins or Newman. I do believe he is playing well but don't get carried away now. You couldn't ask for two better teams to get back into the swing of things against as he has had zero pressure. I don't beleive he has even been hit yet. I have always been impressed with the way he can flick the ball 50 yards but that is with time. Let's see him do it with pressure in his face or on the run. Let's see what he does when the running game isn't working and he has to make plays with quality CB covering. Remember Vick made great plays when he was with Atlanta yet he still had stuggles with good teams pressuring him. I look at the years he played prior to this two game stint and I don't find the second coming of Joe Montania. We'll see but two games against the bottom teams in the NFL does not an MVP make. Yeah he made one play against Dallas last year. I do remember! Now Romo on the other hand is playing some great football. I am so glad Philly has a QB that can play. I don't want any excuses when they come to Cowboys stadium. this is so funny coming from a oh never mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 well said Cowboys fan........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdog1321 Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 I'm guessing cowboys' fans have a bad rep here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 He has started against DET and JAX that are ranked 30th and 28th against QBs so he has been fortunate so far in the matchups. GB had done no preparation for him to be fair and the Packers in Philly already led 27-10 starting the fourth quarter. But the PHI schedule doesn't get all that much harder this year and Vick does legitimately look different and is connecting with WRs better. We'll see how he looks against WAS or @SF next but he is better. We just are not yet sure exactly how much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 I think it's evident that the game has slowed down for him drastically, and he's making easy work of looking like an NFL Quarterback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 I'm guessing cowboys' fans have a bad rep here? Nonsense. We've all come to accept America's Team as something we are all part of. Except for the Canadians. And one French guy here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Actually I guess America's Team does cover Canada too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLAYER Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Gotta give Reid and staff kudo's for turning Vick into an NFL QB and Vick for listening to them. He is definately better than I ever seen him throwing the ball, even against those weak D's in the past he would not have completed as many passes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboyz1 Posted September 28, 2010 Author Share Posted September 28, 2010 I watched the game this week and Vick had 5 seconds and sometimes 7 when he dropped back to pass. I mean come on now. When he was rushed at all, the ball sailed. Just sayin, Vick had so much time to set his feet, decide where to throw and even use a range finder to calculate distance before letting go. He won't have that time when he plays a real D. Making 300k a year will surely motivate him though. He is only allowed to take home 300k no matter how much he earns, the rest goes to pay off debt and fines. I just don't buy into all the Vick hype Yet. We will see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLAYER Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 I watched the game this week and Vick had 5 seconds and sometimes 7 when he dropped back to pass. I mean come on now. When he was rushed at all, the ball sailed. Just sayin, Vick had so much time to set his feet, decide where to throw and even use a range finder to calculate distance before letting go. He won't have that time when he plays a real D. Making 300k a year will surely motivate him though. He is only allowed to take home 300k no matter how much he earns, the rest goes to pay off debt and fines. I just don't buy into all the Vick hype Yet. We will see. you are a Cowboy fan of course you don't buy into the hype. and when you say real D do you mean Dallas or a real D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Who has the better chance of winning the following awards: Michael Vick: MVP Wade Phillips: Coach of the Year Barry Sanders: Come Back Player of the Year my vote would be for Sanders as having the better chance to win his listed award. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 I should say I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Kolb back as the starting QB prior to the end of this year (due to injury or coaches decsion) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboyz1 Posted September 28, 2010 Author Share Posted September 28, 2010 (edited) you are a Cowboy fan of course you don't buy into the hype. and when you say real D do you mean Dallas or a real D Hey, I want the Eagles competitive. Really I do. As much as I love to beat down the Eagles and shut them out, that gets old. It's kind of like watching an Ultimate Fighter beat down "a guy that doesn't fight so well". You can't take your eyes away but you just.........well...........want it to be over. Now if Vick is an upgrade over Mcnabb, which he clearly looks to be, then maybe we will have a battle this year. Oh and as far as Defenses go. You know many teams that can stop the Texans on 1st and Goal and hold them to a field goal. How many teams are going to hold AJ to 4 catches and no scores. Effectively the Boys held the mighty Texans to 6 points when it counted. How many defenses will do that? Oh and not to mention the game was at the Texan's stadium. So yes, Dallas is a REAL defense. Fixed...... Edited September 28, 2010 by Cowboyz1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Stanky Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 I agree we haven't seen enough from Vick to say one way or another. One thing is for certain though, he looks more comfortable as a passer than he ever has. Vick has even admitted that he didn't take his job seriously prior to his arrest. He relighed on his god given ability only. I think the year sitting behind McNabb and watching how you're supposed to prepare yourself has been huge for Vick. If Vick truly is taking things seriously now, it's scary to think about how good he could be. He might actually realize all that untapped potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 you are a Cowboy fan of course you don't buy into the hype. and when you say real D do you mean Dallas or a real D I'm thinking that if someone runs the ball 50, count 'em , 50 times against Dallas they're gonna lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Oh and as far as Defenses go. You know many teams that can stop the Texans on 1st and Goal and hold them to a field goal. How many teams are going to hold AJ to 4 catches and no scores. Effectively the Boys held the mighty Texans to 6 points when it counted. How many defenses will do that? Oh and not to mention the game was at the Texan's stadium. So yes, Dallas is a REAL defense. ...and during your home opener? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Hey, I want the Eagles competitive. Really I do. As much as I love to beat down the Eagles and shut them out, that gets old. It's kind of like watching an Ultimate Fighter beat down a midget. You can't take your eyes away but you just.........well...........want it to be over. Now if Vick is an upgrade over Mcnabb, which he clearly looks to be, then maybe we will have a battle this year. well McNabb does have a .632 winning % versus the girls and I guess you have conveniently forgotten how the girls have done versus the Reid led Eagles...prior to last year Reid had a .700 winning % against your beloved girls and even accounting for last year his win % is .609 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 ...and during your home opener? well McNabb does have a .632 winning % versus the girls and I guess you have conveniently forgotten how the girls have done versus the Reid led Eagles...prior to last year Reid had a .700 winning % against your beloved girls and even accounting for last year his win % is .609 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/mat...aglesTrophy.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/mat...aglesTrophy.jpg i know you guys don't count NFL championships...but hey, whatever helps you to deal with being a cowboys fan since your glory years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/mat...aglesTrophy.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Sooner Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 i know you guys don't count NFL championships...but hey, whatever helps you to deal with being a cowboys fan since your glory years Actually sweeping the Iggles not twice but 3 times last yr helps me deal with being a Boys fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Sooner Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 well McNabb does have a .632 winning % versus the girls and I guess you have conveniently forgotten how the girls have done versus the Reid led Eagles...prior to last year Reid had a .700 winning % against your beloved girls and even accounting for last year his win % is .609 Why would we avoid the most recent year, where like I mentioned before dallas stomped Philly, not once, not twice, but three times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tford Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Actually I guess America's Team does cover Canada too. TO begs to differ. Buffalo is North America's team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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