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Nick Collins attacks fan after loss


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Packers FS Nick Collins was seen throwing an unknown object at a Bears' fan while leaving the field following the Packers' 20-17 loss.

 

Fox 6 Sports Milwaukee is reporting that Collins' was provoked by a fan who spat his way and called him a racist expletive, promoting Collins to "go crazy" and "attack". The station reportedly has video of the incident that can't be shown until Tuesday due to NFL guidelines. Stay tuned for more.

 

source: http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/39393121/ns/...ts-player_news/

 

I don't blame him. If someone spat on me, I would slap the taste out of their mouth regardless of who they are or where I'm at.

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source: http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/39393121/ns/...ts-player_news/

 

I don't blame him. If someone spat on me, I would slap the taste out of their mouth regardless of who they are or where I'm at.

 

 

The "right" option is for Collins to not do anything.

 

Of course, that's easy for people who aren't getting spat upon and called (I am assuming) n-bombs (or the equivalent) to say.

 

 

As it stands, it appears Bear fans are as classy as ever.

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The "right" option is for Collins to not do anything.

 

Of course, that's easy for people who aren't getting spat upon and called (I am assuming) n-bombs (or the equivalent) to say.

 

 

As it stands, it appears Bear fans are as classy as ever.

 

That is just not right. The fan should be charged.

Collins should have walked away though...BUT I do not blame him.

 

Spitting and n-Word = WRONG.

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Seems to me that if a person chooses to spit on someone and drop the n-bomb on them, that they deserve a mouth full of knuckles, regardless of whom the person is doing it to. The Bears' fan got off lucky with only having something thrown at him (unless that something is a Ka-Bar, then maybe not so much).

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while I agree what the fan did was wrong it's far more wrong for a player to get involved / react since we don't know what that will lead to such as a full blown riot (or an innocent person getting injured what if there was a child or pregnant woman in the area?) and I believe the fan should be charged but that does not make it right for the player who could in all honesty get fined or suspended (or worse) if someone is injured by him.

 

This can not happen, you don't attack a fan (unless it's clearly self defense) and spitting or the n-word is not enough reason to physically assault a person (even if they deserve it).

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This can not happen, you don't attack a fan (unless it's clearly self defense) and spitting or the n-word is not enough reason to physically assault a person (even if they deserve it).

BS. Spitting on OR n-word is enough in my opinion to get your @#$ handed to you. But I guess we live in a Nancy society where we should all hug and cry instead of being men. :wacko:

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Collins was already on tilt too. He was making uncharacteristic mistakes all night, inlcuding trying to flip Mat Forte over and break him in half, drawing a penalty that put the Bears into FG position where they tied the game. Just a bad night for Collins.

 

If the video of the attack is revealing enough then Collins will be suspended for Week 4 Detroit at Green Bay. If it's really bad he'll miss two games.

 

JUM

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Collins was already on tilt too. He was making uncharacteristic mistakes all night, inlcuding trying to flip Mat Forte over and break him in half, drawing a penalty that put the Bears into FG position where they tied the game. Just a bad night for Collins.

 

If the video of the attack is revealing enough then Collins will be suspended for Week 4 Detroit at Green Bay. If it's really bad he'll miss two games.

 

JUM

 

If Jacobs only got a 10k fine (without provocation), I doubt Collins will be suspended.

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BS. Spitting on OR n-word is enough in my opinion to get your @#$ handed to you. But I guess we live in a Nancy society where we should all hug and cry instead of being men. :wacko:

you are wrong and it should be proved out when Collins ends up being fined of suspended. Here is why you are wrong. Ron Artest started a riot. Although he could have had a reason for going after a fan it does not excuse him.

 

Also, I don't know the specific of what Collins did, but what if he throws an object at the fan and by accident it hits another fan (could be a child) or even if he hit the person why spit on him what if that person fall back and injures a child?

 

The point is (I believe) in the law it is not allowed for you to attack (re-attack) a person ho spits on you especially if there are innocent bystanders who could be injured by you.

 

Period Collins was wrong to escelate the situation.

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BS. Spitting on OR n-word is enough in my opinion to get your @#$ handed to you.

But calling a white guy a honky, that's fine and dandy. :tup::wacko::tup: All hail the Great American Double Standard!

 

Anyway - IMO stadium authorities should be all over it and get a handle on this BS already, but it hardly excuses Collins. Reminds me of those b-ball morons who jumped up in the stands the other year. Grow a pair and stop having hissies about someone calling you a name. boo hoo, sniffle

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I believe using a racial expletive is also a crime.

 

I would "lmao" at that but in this hypersensitive screwball day and age, it wouldn't surprise me in the least. Course we all know the real rule is using a racial expletive against a black guy. Rippin on whitey is A-OK!

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you are wrong and it should be proved out when Collins ends up being fined of suspended. Here is why you are wrong. Ron Artest started a riot. Although he could have had a reason for going after a fan it does not excuse him.

 

Also, I don't know the specific of what Collins did, but what if he throws an object at the fan and by accident it hits another fan (could be a child) or even if he hit the person why spit on him what if that person fall back and injures a child?

 

The point is (I believe) in the law it is not allowed for you to attack (re-attack) a person ho spits on you especially if there are innocent bystanders who could be injured by you.

 

Period Collins was wrong to escelate the situation.

 

No, this will only prove that the NFL makes the wrong decisions. The rest of your argument is a bunch of "ifs" that didn't happen. The player would be in the wrong if he hurt an innocent bystander. If the NFL doesn't want this type of thing to happen, they need to get the teams to ban these fans from the stadiums. If they don't, then players are going to do what almost any of us with a pair would do if such a thing happened to us and react. Our society is becoming pansy because people aren't fearful of getting their butts kicked when they act like this fan.

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But calling a white guy a honky, that's fine and dandy. :lol::wacko::tup: All hail the Great American Double Standard!

 

Anyway - IMO stadium authorities should be all over it and get a handle on this BS already, but it hardly excuses Collins. Reminds me of those b-ball morons who jumped up in the stands the other year. Grow a pair and stop having hissies about someone calling you a name. boo hoo, sniffle

 

Shut up Honky :tup:

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If Jacobs only got a 10k fine (without provocation), I doubt Collins will be suspended.

I believe Jacobs threw his helmet out of frustration, not in the attempt to attack anyone there is a difference. This is a different situation and I believe it will be worse for Collins in this event as it was an attack on a fan,

 

I am not trying to defend Jacobs but if I had to say what's worse to have an accident and throw the helmet into the stands out of frustration or to throw an object in the stands to attack a fan (I would say the second situation is worse). Probably not enough to get a suspension but should get a higher fine for Collins than Jacobs.

 

it depends on what actually happens. For example if he threw a roll of tape (that's what I read) maybe that's not so bad as it's not a deadly object. When I first read this I thought Collins physically assaulted the guy which would have been very bad for him.

 

BTW Ravens coach Harbaugh got fined $15K last week for hitting a ref. I saw it at the time, it was not a malicious hit just a love tap and he didn't even get a flag but at the time I saw it I suspected he would get a fine and he was.

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Collins was already on tilt too. He was making uncharacteristic mistakes all night, inlcuding trying to flip Mat Forte over and break him in half, drawing a penalty that put the Bears into FG position where they tied the game. Just a bad night for Collins.

 

That's one way of looking at that play. Another way would be that Forte was fighting hard for extra yardage and wasn't going down. The ref put up his hand and blew the whistle just as Collins started to flip Forte onto the ground to tackle him, and then Collins let Forte go as he was headed to the ground rather than driving him into the turf. That's what I saw in slow motion replay of the play you brought up. Flip him over? Yep, in the process of putting on the ground. Breaking him in half? :wacko: Hardly.

 

The refs didn't cost GB the game, but they were terrible all night long - both ways - and that was one example of it. This is the NFL. If the refs aren't compentent at determining what is and isn't part of a continuous football play and what is gratuitous violence after the play is over, they're in the wrong business. This reffing crew was in way over their pay grade.

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BS. Spitting on OR n-word is enough in my opinion to get your @#$ handed to you. But I guess we live in a Nancy society where we should all hug and cry instead of being men. :wacko:

I'm a Bears fan and I agree with this. The fan should consider himself fortunate he wasn't within arms reach of Collins. How completely classless to spit on a defeated player. Hopefully the fan will be identified, arrested and banned from Soldier Field for life. We don't need scum like that.

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I'm a Bears fan and I agree with this. The fan should consider himself fortunate he wasn't within arms reach of Collins. How completely classless to spit on a defeated player. Hopefully the fan will be identified, arrested and banned from Soldier Field for life. We don't need scum like that.

 

The funny thing is, that kind of stuff normally doesn't happen in this rivalry. Is it intense? As much so as any other in the NFL and probably moreso than almost any other. But is there some mutual grudging respect for the other team? I think so, and it is pretty widespread amongst both fan bases.

 

Now the Vikes and their goldilocks wearing girlymen, that's a whole different story...

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The funny thing is, that kind of stuff normally doesn't happen in this rivalry. Is it intense? As much so as any other in the NFL and probably moreso than almost any other. But is there some mutual grudging respect for the other team? I think so, and it is pretty widespread amongst both fan bases.

 

Now the Vikes and their goldilocks wearing girlymen, that's a whole different story...

Agree 100%.

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That's one way of looking at that play. Another way would be that Forte was fighting hard for extra yardage and wasn't going down. The ref put up his hand and blew the whistle just as Collins started to flip Forte onto the ground to tackle him, and then Collins let Forte go as he was headed to the ground rather than driving him into the turf. That's what I saw in slow motion replay of the play you brought up. Flip him over? Yep, in the process of putting on the ground. Breaking him in half? :wacko: Hardly.

 

The refs didn't cost GB the game, but they were terrible all night long - both ways - and that was one example of it. This is the NFL. If the refs aren't compentent at determining what is and isn't part of a continuous football play and what is gratuitous violence after the play is over, they're in the wrong business. This reffing crew was in way over their pay grade.

Also if you watch the play - Forte's knee never touched so he technically was not down - If the players did not hear the whistle then they did nothing wrong - if they did hear teh whistle then yes they should have been flagged - I would assume by how close they were that they did hear the whistle but you are always taught to finish the play.

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