Living the Dream Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 Didnt see a post about this yet. BCS Standings RK TEAM RECORD 1 Oklahoma 6-0 2 Oregon 6-0 3 Boise State 6-0 4 Auburn 7-0 5 TCU 7-0 6 LSU 7-0 7 Michigan State 7-0 8 Alabama 6-1 9 Utah 6-0 10 Ohio State 6-1 11 Missouri 6-0 12 Stanford 5-1 13 Wisconsin 6-1 14 Oklahoma State 6-0 15 Iowa 5-1 16 Nebraska 5-1 17 Florida State 6-1 18 Arizona 5-1 19 Texas 4-2 20 West Virginia 5-1 21 South Carolina 4-2 22 Kansas State 5-1 23 Arkansas 4-2 24 Mississippi State 5-2 25 Virginia Tech 5-2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEC=UGA Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 Didnt see a post about this yet. BCS Standings RK TEAM RECORD 1 Oklahoma 6-0 2 Oregon 6-0 3 Boise State 6-0 4 Auburn 7-0 5 TCU 7-0 6 LSU 7-0 7 Michigan State 7-0 8 Alabama 6-1 9 Utah 6-0 10 Ohio State 6-1 11 Missouri 6-0 12 Stanford 5-1 13 Wisconsin 6-1 14 Oklahoma State 6-0 15 Iowa 5-1 16 Nebraska 5-1 17 Florida State 6-1 18 Arizona 5-1 19 Texas 4-2 20 West Virginia 5-1 21 South Carolina 4-2 22 Kansas State 5-1 23 Arkansas 4-2 24 Mississippi State 5-2 25 Virginia Tech 5-2 We didn't post it because we didn't want anyone to come to blows over the obvious idiocy of ranking Oklahoma #1.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Living the Dream Posted October 20, 2010 Author Share Posted October 20, 2010 We didn't post it because we didn't want anyone to come to blows over the obvious idiocy of ranking Oklahoma #1.... Not sure I understand the idiocy part. They are 6-0, have beaten 2 top 20 teams, which is more than any other team that is undefeated thus far. And Boise lost ground when Oregon St lost game #3, and Va Tech lost to a 1AA school. Oregon should probably be #1, but OU would be #2 if I was ranking them on their body of work so far. Obviously LSU and Auburn can each win out, and also beat Bama and they would be deserving. Just not sure you can rank a team with 1 semi quality win over Va Tech and a schedule full of cream puffs as a top team. I keep reading passing the eye test. Well if the talent is inferior every week, how do you think the eye test is going to look. When you have to get up for several, 4, 5 or 6 quality opponents a year, you cant game plan weeks in advance for one opponent while you wipe the floor with terrible team after terrible team. Oregon does have a quality win over stanford, but then again, Stanford hasnt beat anyone really so how good are they. That is the problem, teams this early who dont have a quality resume getting ranked because they are undefeated typically get ranked higher than they should. OU will have a chance to prove their worth with undefeated Missouri this week, then undefeated Okla St later. But the win over Texas looks a bit better now after they beat Nebraska. And Fla St has been pretty good and OU rolled them. Oregon on the other hand has had no trouble in the 2nd half with teams yet. But their slow start could bite them against a better defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEC=UGA Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 Not sure I understand the idiocy part. They are 6-0, have beaten 2 top 20 teams, which is more than any other team that is undefeated thus far. And Boise lost ground when Oregon St lost game #3, and Va Tech lost to a 1AA school. Oregon should probably be #1, but OU would be #2 if I was ranking them on their body of work so far. Obviously LSU and Auburn can each win out, and also beat Bama and they would be deserving. Just not sure you can rank a team with 1 semi quality win over Va Tech and a schedule full of cream puffs as a top team. I keep reading passing the eye test. Well if the talent is inferior every week, how do you think the eye test is going to look. When you have to get up for several, 4, 5 or 6 quality opponents a year, you cant game plan weeks in advance for one opponent while you wipe the floor with terrible team after terrible team. Oregon does have a quality win over stanford, but then again, Stanford hasnt beat anyone really so how good are they. That is the problem, teams this early who dont have a quality resume getting ranked because they are undefeated typically get ranked higher than they should. OU will have a chance to prove their worth with undefeated Missouri this week, then undefeated Okla St later. But the win over Texas looks a bit better now after they beat Nebraska. And Fla St has been pretty good and OU rolled them. Oregon on the other hand has had no trouble in the 2nd half with teams yet. But their slow start could bite them against a better defense. Texas and FSU, decent teams, but.... FSU was the only team that Okie has DOMINATED, I mean they blew their doors off and from watching them is hardly a top 20 team. Texas has lost 2 games and one of those was a blowout to UCLA... Hardly a top 20 team. In Okie's other games they have beaten mediocre teams by very, very small margins of victory. Other than FSU and Iowa state show me a game where they handly beat up on their "inferior" competition Arguably, Auburn, LSU, and Oregon have had much tougher schedules. Auburn has beaten Arkansas, SC, and Miss. ST... All top 25 teams. LSU has beaten W.VA, Miss. St. both top 25 teams. That being aid, I am not championing for AU or LSU to be #1, each team has too many glaring weaknesses. AU, their Defense, LSU, their offense. That and AU is going to put the hammer down on LSU this weekend, so we can throw them outta the mix. Auburn will lose two games this year, so they are out of the mix, also. Sad part about it is that these schools are undefeated and ranked 3 and 5 spots below Okie, respectively. The BCS is a joke. I still believe that Bama is probably the best team out there, they lost a game, though, so they don't matter anymore... All the more reason for a playoff system. Oregon, should probably be the number 1 team. Just from watching them, I believe that they are a better team than Okie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
untateve Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 It hurts when Florida is not part of this conversation :tears: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEC=UGA Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 It hurts when Florida is not part of this conversation :tears: LSU, Alabama, and Mississippi State, all kicked the crap outta UF and should be considered for the number one spot... (happy?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theprofessor Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Stanford hasnt beat anyone really so how good are they. But beating UCLA by 35 on the road, Notre Dame by 23 on the road and Wake Forest by 44 at home is pretty impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 But beating UCLA by 35 on the road, Notre Dame by 23 on the road and Wake Forest by 44 at home is pretty impressive. In fairness, pretty much everyone and their sister has drubbed Wake this year. None the less, I do think Stanford is legit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 The BCS is a joke. I still believe that Bama is probably the best team out there, they lost a game, though, so they don't matter anymore... All the more reason for a playoff system. Oregon, should probably be the number 1 team. Just from watching them, I believe that they are a better team than Okie. 1. BCS is a joke? It's sure better than what we had before. Reading your thoughts reminds me of the pre-BCS era when all it took was winning the bias human vote. You say you believe that Bama is the best team out there, right? Under the current BCS system they still have a legit shot. Yeah, they will need some help (deservingly so for losing to SC), but Bama is actually in a fairly decent position to earn a shot for the BCS NC. Granted it will take the undefeated non SEC Major conference teams losing, but should Bama run the table thru the SEC championship they will be ranked ahead of the undefeated teams like Boise, Utah and TCU. 2. All the more reason for a playoff system. I find it sort of funny that you believe Bama is the best team in the nation even with a loss and follow that up with the statement "All the more reason for a playoff?" Are you proposing some type of best of 7 series. Or perhaps double elimination? What you witnessed when South Carolina beat Bama is exactly what you could/would get with a single elimination playoff. Upsets happen all the time. Good news for Bama is they may get a chance to redeem their only loss in the SEC Championship Game provided both Bama and SC take care of business. 3. Oregon, should probably be the number 1 team. Just from watching them, I believe that they are a better team than Okie. All I can say is thank you again for the BCS & for including computer rankings. Did you know at this point in the season that Oregon Ducks's average computer ranking is 8th while Oklahoma's is #1. The computer ranking that I feel is the most unbias is the "Colley Matrix". They actually ranked the Ducks 9th at this time in the season. Not saying Oregon isn't the #1 team, but apparently none of the the major computer rankings agree with you. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Living the Dream Posted October 21, 2010 Author Share Posted October 21, 2010 (edited) But beating UCLA by 35 on the road, Notre Dame by 23 on the road and Wake Forest by 44 at home is pretty impressive. Which one of these teams is ranked. UCLA and Notre Dame have horrible defenses exposed by Luck and Co. So just because they killed a 2nd rate team with an obvious flaw, doesnt mean they beat anyone. Stanford will lose again this season and likely wont beat a top 25 team all year. and all this talk about how great the Pac-10 is, they have exactly 3 ranked teams right now, and Zona wont be at years end. So we should end that talk about them being the superior conference when the SEC has 6 BCS ranked teams, the Big 12 has 6, and the Big 10 has 4. Just saying. The biggest upset this season was UCLA beating Texas by along shot. What has UCLA done since then, lose to Cal 35-7. Without this win, the pac-10 would probably be the 5th ranked conference at the moment also behind Mountain West which has 2 top 10 teams, TCU and Utah, something the Pac-10- cant say. But right now, with zona still ranked, Id have them 4th just ahead of the MWC, with 3 BCS ranked teams to 2. Guess the bowls will once again decide the dominance of conferences. But it will be ironic if the Pac-10 goes 2-4 again this year, some of these early season arguments about how great they are. Edited October 21, 2010 by Living the Dream Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat2334 Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Which one of these teams is ranked. UCLA and Notre Dame have horrible defenses exposed by Luck and Co. So just because they killed a 2nd rate team with an obvious flaw, doesnt mean they beat anyone. Stanford will lose again this season and likely wont beat a top 25 team all year. and all this talk about how great the Pac-10 is, they have exactly 3 ranked teams right now, and Zona wont be at years end. So we should end that talk about them being the superior conference when the SEC has 6 BCS ranked teams, the Big 12 has 6, and the Big 10 has 4. Just saying. The biggest upset this season was UCLA beating Texas by along shot. What has UCLA done since then, lose to Cal 35-7. Without this win, the pac-10 would probably be the 5th ranked conference at the moment also behind Mountain West which has 2 top 10 teams, TCU and Utah, something the Pac-10- cant say. But right now, with zona still ranked, Id have them 4th just ahead of the MWC, with 3 BCS ranked teams to 2. Guess the bowls will once again decide the dominance of conferences. But it will be ironic if the Pac-10 goes 2-4 again this year, some of these early season arguments about how great they are. yer out of yer mind - first of all - a big reason why the Pac 10 has 3 ranked teams is they had BY FAR the toughest non conference scheduling and the best actual wins...... Oregon State is in the top 15 if they don't play Boise and TCU - the rankings don't mean chit at this point. Such an uneven playing field it is just an ineffective way to gauge teams at this point. Many teams, Oregon included haven't really been tested. You can go down the line and the Pac 10 is better than the Big 12 and 10 - by quite a bit actually. So tired of hearing about last years bowl record, and ho wit proves dominance.......how about dominance during the season when the games actually MEAN something. how about 2 years ago when they went 5-0. Hating on a UA team that let one slip vs OSU, and is The only argument is between the SEC and Pac 10 for overall strength - then followed by the Big 12 and Big 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 This is the first year in a while that there hasn't been one or two dominate teams to point to. While it makes for interesting game days, it also makes for a bunch of arguments about who is the best. Frankly there isn't a great team out there this year. There are several very good teams with a few flaws, but not a great team you can point to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theprofessor Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 (edited) yer out of yer mind - So tired of hearing about last years bowl record, and how it proves dominance.......how about dominance during the season when the games actually MEAN something. how about 2 years ago when they went 5-0. I hear ya - Funny how everyone in here jumps on the Pac-10 bowl record last season but when we went 5-0 the previous year ......:crickets: Edited October 21, 2010 by theprofessor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theprofessor Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 and all this talk about how great the Pac-10 is, they have exactly 3 ranked teams right now, and Zona wont be at years end. So we should end that talk about them being the superior conference when the SEC has 6 BCS ranked teams, the Big 12 has 6, and the Big 10 has 4. Just saying. So, the Pac-10 would be a more dominant conference if there was no balance and the Top 5 teams in the Pac-10 dominated the Bottom 5 teams so we could have more teams in the Top 25 The main reason the Pac-10 doesn't have more teams in the Top 25 is because the league is so balanced that, year after year, the Pac-10's "2nd and 3rd tier" teams beat the top tier teams during the regular season pushing them out of the Top 25 by seasons end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Living the Dream Posted October 21, 2010 Author Share Posted October 21, 2010 yer out of yer mind - first of all - a big reason why the Pac 10 has 3 ranked teams is they had BY FAR the toughest non conference scheduling and the best actual wins...... Oregon State is in the top 15 if they don't play Boise and TCU - the rankings don't mean chit at this point. Such an uneven playing field it is just an ineffective way to gauge teams at this point. Many teams, Oregon included haven't really been tested. You can go down the line and the Pac 10 is better than the Big 12 and 10 - by quite a bit actually. So tired of hearing about last years bowl record, and ho wit proves dominance.......how about dominance during the season when the games actually MEAN something. how about 2 years ago when they went 5-0. Hating on a UA team that let one slip vs OSU, and is The only argument is between the SEC and Pac 10 for overall strength - then followed by the Big 12 and Big 10. Oh really, your statements are opinions and mine are facts. the Pac-10 isnt close to the SEC or Big 12, the numbers just dont add up. even if Oregon St beats Washington which in itself is a reason why they shouldnt be ranked, that still only pits 4 top 25 schools vs 6 from the other 2 conferences. And you admit Oregon hasnt been tested, but then say the Pac-10 plays the by far roughest non conference schedule. Your best team played no one non conference and Zona is only ranked today because of their win over Iowa, they are 18 with that win. UCLA beat Texas, by throwing for only 27 yards, but when you turn the ball over 5 times, you are going to get beat. but as a whole, those are 2 significant wins for the confernce. Ill give you that. Better wins than any conference wins by any teams to date. Iowa is a better football team than Stanford, but Iowa simply doesnt play well in the pacific time zone, something like 0-7 in their last 7 I read. And Zona at home almost gave that game away, but held on. That game played in Iowa, Im betting a much different outcome, but those are opinions like everything you post above. Lets just stick with the facts. And you dont want to hear last seasons bowl record, or how many teams are ranked in the top 25 per conference to date, which are facts. But insist a 3 loss Oregon st team, that will lose 2 more games minimum is a top 15 team. and who is outta their mind? Im not sure I agree the Pac-10 is even comparable to the Big 10, but to say the Big 12 or SEC is just laughable, considering where things stand right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWPFFL BrianW Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 LOL true to form a thread turns into conference talk. Rocker, the BCS as a ranking system I've come to the opinion is really really good. As a system to determiine 2 teams that play for it all though? It isn't very good. But that doesn't have anything to do with the BCS itself. In any year, the ultimate winner still wasn't truly tested. Alabama last year beat Texas, but they didn't beat Oregon, or Ohio State/ They didn't beat Boise or TCU. They didn't even beat Iowa or Georgia Tech All of those teams you would at the very least give punchers chances to beat Alabama on any given Saturday. A true playoff would truly prove who is champion. As it is, it's still something that is just voted on. Upsets happen, but if they do, then the team that lost didn't deserve to be champion to begin with. They deserved the CHANCE to be champion (and under my 12 team idea, a BETTER CHANCE by earning it on the field in the regular season). And it's not just Alabama. It's any "Mythical National Champion" that came before them. Even the great ones like 1995 Nebraska or 2001 Miami, or 2005 Texas. All tremendously great football teams, but all teams that didn't really TRULY have to earn it on the field. Maybe a +1 would be better. I don't know. Oregon has a low computer ranking now, because they haven't really played anyone other than Stanford. It'll go up. Duck fans shouldn't worry so long as Oregon keeps winning. But at the same time, no one should be shocked if any of those teams lose. I won't be. Oregon is your typical team that scores a ton of points against pretty weak defenses, and will get a ton of hype because of how "exciting" they are, and everyone will be shocked when they get dominated in a bowl game (like last year). See 03 and 04 Oklahoma and even 08 OU. I also look at Auburn this year too. Auburn is probably my favorite SEC squad, but they are going to have real problems with that defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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