rocknrobn26 Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Now that's embarrassing! WTH??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millerx Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Now that's embarrassing! WTH??? Ya, I just don't get it... what is it with coaches benching this guy?? You start to get a since that "where there's smoke there's fire" with him. I mean there has to be a reason... I mean other than that he's black... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwallace49 Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Cause when I think "best chance to win". . . . I naturally think Rex Grossman. Just like when I think "clutch 2 minute drill guy", Rexy also is the de facto first choice . . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budlitebrad Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Worked back in 2008. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrobn26 Posted November 1, 2010 Author Share Posted November 1, 2010 Cause when I think "best chance to win". . . . I naturally think Rex Grossman. Just like when I think "clutch 2 minute drill guy", Rexy also is the de facto first choice . . . . Man you are feeling good. Take an aspirin and go to bed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargerz Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Skeletor has lost his mind!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satelliteoflovegm Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 TO's fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 McNabb has only been a starter for 12 years. He's still kind of green compared to Rex Grossman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTSuper7 Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Even if this move somehow works, it still comes off as a huge risk and completely unnecessary. Bad vibes in DC with this loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 McNabb is known for not having any urgency in a 2 minute offense....Grossman is willing to take some shots.... this is something every Eagles fan knows....and when we hear about this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 That is a strange thing to do in a close game. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimm74 Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 b/c McNabb is without a doubt the most overrated player in the league...not TO per the players... But I am pretty sure McNabb is more likable which helped the vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duchess Jack Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 b/c McNabb is without a doubt the most overrated player in the league...not TO per the players... But I am pretty sure McNabb is more likable which helped the vote. than how do you explain all the championship games with such horrible HORRIBLE FRACKING HORRIBLE wide recievers?!?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpholmes Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Lovie Smith would have killed to have McNabb on his worst day over Grossman on his best day... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpinalTapp Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 (edited) Lovie Smith would have killed to have McNabb on his worst day over Grossman on his best day... Agreed. I believe Shanny was sending a message to McNabb that even his job is not a safe...that he cannot just throw into triple coverage or overlook open receivers in the mid to short field for misguided, low percentage, game ending bombs without consequences. In the coaches eyes, McNabb is disrespecting their disciplined offense with these piss poor decisions and he needs to tighten up his game. It was a very emotional and high risk decision made by the coaches. That is about the only rationale I can come up with for how you can justify removing the only big play threat and real chance the team had at winning that ball game. Don't tell me the coaches really believed Grossman gave them a better chance. They were just disgusted with McNabb and yanked him, IMO. It wasn't about what Grossman could do...it was what McNabb had already done. High risk poker was just played by the coaching staaff...let's see how it plays out the rest of the season. If McNabb is one and done in DC...the Shannahan and Bruce Allen just sent the Skins back to the stone ages again...there is no developing QB in the pipeline, the team will not have a lottery draft pick to grab a QB of the future, their will be no great free agent QBs available (unless someone wants to make the case for Vick), and the team just gave up two draft picks for McNabb. A Hot Mess Edited November 1, 2010 by SpinalTapp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimm74 Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 than how do you explain all the championship games with such horrible HORRIBLE FRACKING HORRIBLE wide recievers?!?!?! I stand by my statement.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 than how do you explain all the championship games with such horrible HORRIBLE FRACKING HORRIBLE wide recievers?!?!?! great defense and he makes few msiatkes as far as turnovers... but his thing that he did early on in his career was fumble a snap on the 1st drive (if not the 1st snap of the game) and we would guarantee a loss in that game... I recall back in the playoff game against the Rams in 2001, he did it...and also against the Titans week 1 around that same time frame (maybe 02/03?)...but he's had a knack for getting overwhelmed in a tight game... whenever the Eagles advanced in the playoffs, it was because he was able to get into a rhythm early on or he would get shut down and make mistakes...not to mention the defense was usually very good early on....even the "bend, but don't break" defense from 03 still wasn't that bad... McNabb got it done when the game had no pressure, unless he made a mistake early...he would kinda cruise.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Lovie Smith would have killed to have McNabb on his worst day over Grossman on his best day... but maybe Grossman runs the 2 minute drill better?... and I am actually serious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Holy Roller Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Agreed. I believe Shanny was sending a message to McNabb that even his job is not a safe...that he cannot just throw into triple coverage or overlook open receivers in the mid to short field for misguided, low percentage, game ending bombs without consequences. In the coaches eyes, McNabb is disrespecting their disciplined offense with these piss poor decisions and he needs to tighten up his game. It was a very emotional and high risk decision made by the coaches. That is about the only rationale I can come up with for how you can justify removing the only big play threat and real chance the team had at winning that ball game. Don't tell me the coaches really believed Grossman gave them a better chance. They were just disgusted with McNabb and yanked him, IMO. It wasn't about what Grossman could do...it was what McNabb had already done. High risk poker was just played by the coaching staaff...let's see how it plays out the rest of the season. If McNabb is one and done in DC...the Shannahan and Bruce Allen just sent the Skins back to the stone ages again...there is no developing QB in the pipeline, the team will not have a lottery draft pick to grab a QB of the future, their will be no great free agent QBs available (unless someone wants to make the case for Vick), and the team just gave up two draft picks for McNabb. A Hot Mess Thanks for the insight. This makes sense. Or what Chargerz said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpinalTapp Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 (edited) Thanks for the insight. This makes sense. Or what Chargerz said. I really do believe this was about respect in the eyes of the coaching staff. McNabb was publicly disrespecting their offensive system with his poor/undisciplined decision making so they decided to publicly disrespect him back - typical Shannahan MO thus far from what we have seen here in DC from this guy. IMO, this was their way of trying to get control of McNabb - no more, no less. Edited November 1, 2010 by SpinalTapp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flemingd Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 This is, in all honesty, the dumbest coaching move I've ever seen in my life. Not that McNabb is all that, but wow, just wow. Incomprehensible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebartender Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 great defense and he makes few msiatkes as far as turnovers... but his thing that he did early on in his career was fumble a snap on the 1st drive (if not the 1st snap of the game) and we would guarantee a loss in that game... I recall back in the playoff game against the Rams in 2001, he did it...and also against the Titans week 1 around that same time frame (maybe 02/03?)...but he's had a knack for getting overwhelmed in a tight game... whenever the Eagles advanced in the playoffs, it was because he was able to get into a rhythm early on or he would get shut down and make mistakes...not to mention the defense was usually very good early on....even the "bend, but don't break" defense from 03 still wasn't that bad... McNabb got it done when the game had no pressure, unless he made a mistake early...he would kinda cruise.. Couldn't agree more. Between the 20's/with the lead/more then 2-3 minutes left in the game he was very good. In the red zone/during a tight game/with less then 2-3 minutes left and he just couldn't get it done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawks21 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 There's more to this that we aren't hearing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lkirc Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 I have said this before. McNabb always looks winded and slow towards the end of games. I truly think Shenanigans is being truthful when he says McNabb isn't in proper physical shape to run the 2 minute drill effectively. I seem to remember yelling at McNabb to hurry up at the end of a half or the end of the game. He just always seems to be huffing anf puffing like he smokes 2 packs a day.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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